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Let’s just pretend for a second that everything Stadia needs to be amazing comes true. You can use any controller you have laying around, everyone has magic internet that’s cheap, fast and uncapped, all the newest and coolest games are available and everyone is happy with any consumer rights issues and everyone is 100% confident that google will back Stadia going forward. If that magic world happens 3 years from now, sure, I’ll get Stadia then, but why do I want Stadia RIGHT NOW rather than on the promise that cool stuff is coming soon?
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:17 |
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hostile apostle posted:Civ6 is $8.69 Civilization 6 May 21 - May 28, 2020 Grand Theft Auto 5 May 14 - May 21, 2020 Death Coming May 7 - May 14, 2020 Crashlands April 30 - May 7, 2020 Amnesia: The Dark Descent April 30 - May 7, 2020 For The King April 23 - April 30, 2020 Wheels of Aurelia April 16 - April 23, 2020 Just Cause 4 April 16 - April 23, 2020 Close to the Sun April 9 - April 16, 2020 Sherlock Holmes: Crimes and Punishments April 9 - April 16, 2020 Drawful 2 April 2 - April 9, 2020 Gone Home April 2 - April 9, 2020 Hob April 2 - April 9, 2020 Totally Reliable Delivery Service April 1 - April 8, 2020 World War z March 26 - April 2, 2020 Torment x Punisher March 26 - April 2, 2020 Figment March 26 - April 2, 2020 The Stanley Parable March 19 - March 26, 2020 Watch Dogs March 19 - March 26, 2020 Mutazione March 12 - March 19, 2020 A Short Hike March 12 - March 19, 2020 Anodyne 2 March 12 - March 19, 2020 GoNNER March 5 - March 12, 2020 Offworld Trading Company March 5 - March 12, 2020 Inner Space February 27 - March 5, 2020 Faeria February 20 - February 27, 2020 Assassin's Creed Syndicate February 20 - February 27, 2020 Aztez February 13 - February 20, 2020 Kingdom Come: Deliverance February 13 - February 20, 2020 Carcassonne February 5 - February 13, 2020 Ticket To Ride February 6 - February 13, 2020 Farming Simulator 19 January 30 - February 6, 2020 The Bridge January 23 - 30, 2020 Horace January 16 - 23, 2020 Sundered: Eldritch Edition January 9 - 16, 2020 Darksiders Warmastered Edition January 1- 9, 2020 Darksiders 2 Dethinitive Edition January 1 - 9, 2020 Steep January 1 - 9, 2020 Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair December 31, 2019 - January 1, 2020 Hello Neighbor December 30 - 31, 2019 Talos Principle December 29 - 30, 2019 Shadow Tactics: Blades of the Shogun December 28 - 29, 2019 Hyper Light Drifter December 27 - 28, 2019 FTL: Faster Than Light December 26 - 27, 2019 Totally Accurate Battle Simulator December 25 - 26, 2019 Celeste December 24 - 25, 2019 Ape Out December 23 - 24, 2019 Little Inferno December 22 - 23, 2019 Superhot December 21 - 22, 2019 Towerfall Ascension December 20 - 21, 2019 Into The Breach December 19 - 20, 2019 The Escapists December 12 - 19, 2019 The Wolf Among Us December 12 - 19, 2019 Jotun: Valhalla Edition December 6 - 12, 2019 Rayman Legends November 29 - December 6, 2019 Bad North November 21 - 29, 2019 The Messenger November 14 - 21, 2019 Nuclear Throne November 7 - 14, 2019 Ruiner November 7 - 14, 2019 SOMA October 31 - November 7, 2019 Costume Quest October 31 - November 7, 2019 Q.U.B.E.2 October 24 - October 31, 2019 Layers of Fear October 24 - October 31, 2019 Observer October 17 - 24, 2019 Alan Wake: American Nightmare October 17 - 24, 2019 Surviving Mars October 10 - 17, 2019 Minit October 3 - 10, 2019 Everything September 26 - October 3, 2019 Metro 2033 Redux September 26 - October 3, 2019 Batman: Arkham Collection September 19 - 26, 2019 Lego Batman Trilogy September 19 - 26, 2019 Conarium September 12 - 19, 2019 The End Is Nigh September 5 - 12, 2019 Abzu September 5 - 12, 2019 Celeste August 29 - September 5, 2019 Inside August 29 - September 5, 2019 Fez August 22 - 29, 2019 Hyper Light Drifter August 15 - 22, 2019 Mutant Year Zero: Road To Eden August 15 - 22, 2019 GNOG August 8 - 15, 2019 For Honor August 2 - 9, 2019 Alan Wake August 2 - 9, 2019 Moonlighter July 25 - August 2, 2019 This War of Mine July 25 - August 2, 2019 Limbo July 18 - July 25, 2019 Torchlight July 11 - July 18, 2019 Overcooked July 4 - July 11, 2019 Last Day of June June 27 - July 4, 2019 Rebel Galaxy June 20 - 27, 2019 Enter The Gungeon June 13 - 20, 2019 Kingdom New Lands June 6 - 13, 2019 City of Brass May 30 - June 6, 2019 Rime May 23 - 30, 2019 Stories Untold May 16 - 30, 2019 World of Goo May 2 - 16, 2019 Transistor April 18, 2019 - May 2, 2019 The Witness April 4 - 18, 2019 Oxenfree March 21 - April 4, 2019 Slime Rancher March 7 - 21, 2019 Thimbleweed Park February 21 - March 7, 2019 Axiom Verge February 7 - 21, 2019 The Jackbox Party Pack January 24 - February 7, 2019 What Remains of Edith Finch January 11 - 24, 2019 Super Meat Boy December 28, 2018 - January 10, 2019 Subnautica December 12 - 27, 2018
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:22 |
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no sub. free. $0. and people still dont want to use egs, which is just a storefront for normal pc games. why on earth would stadias offering be more enticing. someone quote the comically large list so ha can see it and then ignore it Stux fucked around with this message at 19:26 on May 28, 2020 |
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hostile apostle posted:Civ6 is $8.69 (see what i did there)
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:29 |
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Stux posted:Civilization 6 Stux posted:no sub. free. $0. and people still dont want to use egs, which is just a storefront for normal pc games. why on earth would stadias offering be more enticing.
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:31 |
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Ivypls posted:lmfao cdkeys is an unauthorized reseller of game keys can imagine no greater crime
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:35 |
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Pryor on Fire posted:ahhahaha ok there is a 98% chance this poster is a google employee
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:35 |
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brainSnakes posted:I was going to make a comment about how the people working on Stadia have no idea what kind of games are even a good fit for their service, but then I thought about that a bit, and actually neither do I. Something like Civ 6 should be fine. Not amazing, necessarily, but fine. I'm not sure their CPU would be particularly fast at processing AI turns, but it's hard to say without testing. There are plenty of big games that could run just fine on Stadia, it's just that most of the ones they actually have don't really fit that bill and the ones that would run fine would generally not fit with their 4K 60 fps 5.1 surround sound marketing, anyway.
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:36 |
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hostile apostle posted:Folks IIT made their decision about Stadia before trying the product, or evaluating it objectively. i did try it and it blew rear end. sorry. according to the specs my connection should be able to handle a 1080p stream but i have to drop it down to 720p to keep it smooth and it looks like garbage. my "gaming pc" is my thinkpad from work with integrated graphics and i would rather play a game locally on the lowest settings than play it on stadia at any price. even if i had any interest at all in game streaming i'd be using geforce now so my save data isn't trapped on stadia and i can switch to playing locally when possible. i was interested before i tried it and had considered using it to play cyberpunk 2077 but the service is just bad and offers nothing worth paying for to almost anyone
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:39 |
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hostile apostle posted:If the point of the thread is to sling your latest hot take, rather than actually discuss whats going on the platform or talk about your actual experience - then I'm all for gassing it. You're not engaging with anyone. You take a bunch of games that almost any computer can run and then say "you don't need a gaming PC" just shows you're missing the point. You're not engaging. You're advertising. If you were making an effort to, you know, actually discuss Stadia honestly, maybe. Why not talk about Get Packed? Here's a Stadia exclusive. Is it any good? But you don't talk about the games. You shill for the platform, and honestly, that's the problem. It's like an audiophile. They spend all their time on the delivery system, and meanwhile you're wondering if hearing the best version of Supertramp's Breakfast in America is really worth all of this. I rather talk to a kid with lovely laptop speakers who actually cares about the music.
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:44 |
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i also really can't emphasize enough how much it sucks to have the quality of every single second of gameplay in every single game be entirely dependent upon your connection strength at that moment
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Bofast posted:There are plenty of big games that could run just fine on Stadia, it's just that most of the ones they actually have don't really fit that bill and the ones that would run fine would generally not fit with their 4K 60 fps 5.1 surround sound marketing, anyway. Never mind that "on the road" involves a multi-hour train trip each way where the stadia would be banned if it was even a fraction as popular as Netflix, or abusing whatever implicit bandwidth limit the hotel / ISP has in place wherever I'm staying.
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# ? May 28, 2020 19:50 |
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Fallom posted:can imagine no greater crime Unauthorized resellers have a shitload of connections to organized crime and get used for money laundering the proceeds of poo poo like human trafficking constantly. It’s not just the piracy side of things that get them frowned on, they fund some heinous poo poo.
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# ? May 28, 2020 20:09 |
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brainSnakes posted:This has been driving me a bit crazy. Why are there multiple fighting games on the Stadia? This is a genre where having an advantage is gauged in the form of being +3 frames on your opponent. Among any fighting game circles I’ve seen, the mantra is “friends don’t let friends play fighting games over wifi”. If you don’t have a good and proper wired internet connection, you’re going to have a bad time playing them online. as socially constructed realities bump up against actual realities, we start to see subconscious cognitive dissonance, self delusion, or willful lying. i dunno where hostile apostle lies i but i lean towards a combination of the latter two.
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# ? May 28, 2020 20:20 |
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Shumagorath posted:Every time I think of a game that would work decently well on the stadia and be something I would enjoy taking on the road via my ageing laptop, I remember it's something that absolutely needs mods for me to get full enjoyment, or would absolutely ruin my body if I tried to play it on a phone. I personally don't mod many games, but I agree that it's very limited. It does have things it could do that might work ok, but they are not even playing to whatever strenghts they could have had.
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# ? May 28, 2020 20:21 |
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hostile apostle posted:Folks IIT made their decision about Stadia before trying the product, or evaluating it objectively. Oh HA. You were doing so well. Why would you tip your hand so close to the end of a trolling masterclass by stanning for the loving Power Rangers fighting game, of all things? We believed in you. I believed in you. Now I believe in nothing.
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# ? May 28, 2020 20:29 |
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Add "Borderlands: the Handsome Collection" to the free games on Epic as of today.
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# ? May 28, 2020 20:35 |
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cams posted:rich people have the ability to socially construct ideas that almost seem real, such as "the stadia is a viable product" just by having a bunch of people who stand to gain if you're right. see: tesla, uber, the american economic system as a whole. we've created the economic conditions for worthless things to have value just because people want them to. it's the same thing with stadia, people just want to believe it works, and they'd make money if it works, so yeah sure you can totally play fighting games on stadia. i mean, we gave them a bunch of money and now the game is on stadia, so yeah, fighting games on stadia. Trashfuture's labelling is abysmal, but if they haven't done a games / video streaming follow-up to their music streaming episode they should.
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# ? May 28, 2020 20:41 |
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Isn't that Samurai Showdown Collection that just got announced this week gonna be free on EGS next month? That's pretty cool.
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# ? May 28, 2020 20:49 |
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HA, I have tried Stadia. I've tried almost all of the streaming services (the only big one I haven't tried is XCloud - I got into the beta but haven't bothered to launch it yet). I am one of your potential customers, since I have a use case for streaming (unlike most people), despite owning consoles and a beefy PC. I am currently subscribed to both GFN and Shadow, though I'll probably cancel GFN once they start charging since Shadow is so much better than any of the other streaming services. I used to subscribe to PSNow, back when I had more time to spend in front of a TV, but now my TV time is limited and I spend most of my time on MacOS and iOS devices - if PSNow could run on either of those I would probably subscribe to it too, since its library is fantastic, especially for the price. Look at the above, seriously consider it. I am a prime candidate for Stadia, yet despite trying it (thank you for the buddy code) I found it to be worse than any of the previously mentioned services. While it is true that I had a worse experience with more lag and video compression artifacts than any of your competitors, I will give it the benefit of the doubt and chalk that up to their servers being closer to my house or something. I have lots of reasons for not liking Stadia, but they mostly boil down to the library and business model. Paying a monthly fee for the crap that your members get is ridiculous, your latest comparison of Power Rangers to XCom or whatever was laughable. I might consider buying the occasional one-off title, except whatever game I'm interested in I can get cheaper all kinds of other places and play on Shadow. Shadow also lets me play literally every other PC game ever released, because it IS, for all intents and purposes, a PC. It costs $5 more a month than Stadia, but I make up for that many times over by saving on game costs. Also, games I play on Shadow I can also play on my PC offline if something should happen to my Internet connection. Stadia should have been a no brainer for me - and it is, just not in the way that you want. If you want to talk or something, feel free to PM me or whatever. Despite many sarcastic posts in this thread I legitimately like streaming as a technology and have given Stadia a fair shake. If you can't even win over ideal potential customers like me, Stadia has no chance.
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# ? May 28, 2020 21:01 |
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hostile apostle posted:Folks IIT made their decision about Stadia before trying the product, or evaluating it objectively. quote:Holy f*ck, this is huge! Five free games on Pro and four of them are entirely new to the platform! You guys are killing it right now!
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# ? May 28, 2020 21:27 |
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Fallom posted:can imagine no greater crime for me it's just being amused that dude pulled a price from a grey market shop to try and emphasize his point, when you can get it on epic right now for 5 dollars, or other authorized resellers for like 15 it was just a boneheaded self own that accomplished nothing
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# ? May 28, 2020 21:33 |
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hostile apostle posted:Compare what Pro offers as compared to what Humble Choice offers for $20/month You own the games from Humble Choice. Cancel at any time, keep all the games forever. Seriously how is this level of shilling and complete false pretense not a ban? Close the thread and get rid of this guy.
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# ? May 28, 2020 21:48 |
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lock posty in thread, cast it into imp zone or yospos
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# ? May 28, 2020 21:54 |
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hostile apostle posted:Folks IIT made their decision about Stadia before trying the product, or evaluating it objectively. it's shite m8
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# ? May 28, 2020 23:15 |
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Klyith posted:You own the games from Humble Choice. Cancel at any time, keep all the games forever. Not to mention that there's both other services out there that offer games on different terms and Humble Choice has multiple tiers of subscriptions.
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# ? May 28, 2020 23:29 |
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brainSnakes posted:I was going to make a comment about how the people working on Stadia have no idea what kind of games are even a good fit for their service, but then I thought about that a bit, and actually neither do I. It's AAA games. Can't be bothered to optimise anything, so their file size bloats to hell. Input delay doesn't matter, cause all the difficulty has been smoothed out in favour of a cinematic experience that makes the player feel cool. And naturally, plenty of cutscenes - if you're streaming video, might as well just stream an actual video.
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# ? May 28, 2020 23:50 |
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Meanwhile, Steam is directly integrating GeForce Now into the Steam clientquote:Introduction:
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# ? May 29, 2020 00:01 |
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hostile apostle posted:Civ6 is $8.69 CDkeys.com is a grey market reseller like G2A. If you bought it from here you'd literally (and I do mean literally because these purchases are used to launder money from stolen credit cards,) steal from developers/
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# ? May 29, 2020 00:01 |
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Someone with search, does Hostile Apostle actually post anywhere else on SA?
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# ? May 29, 2020 00:04 |
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Every few pages there'd be a post or two in another thread (an Elon Musk thread and a Stock Trading thread), that's it. Of the 400ish most recent posts I think he maybe has 10ish posts in other threads (I didn't check the whole list).
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# ? May 29, 2020 00:16 |
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Whoever showed the games from humble monthly they selected, thank you for not selecting Bard's Tale IV.
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# ? May 29, 2020 00:22 |
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Hosty my dude, I can assure you my time spent trying Stadia was in about as good faith as possible. As someone who constantly uninstalls and re-downloads my steam games due to hard drive space, the whole "no install, no download, just play" idea is really appealing to me. Problem is graphics quality suffers pretty badly, there's too much stuttering if my web connection flags even slightly, and the library is loving laughable. The only game I regularly play that Stadia has on offer is Mortal Kombat 11, which I already own on Steam, and on Steam it has a much larger user base and looks and plays much better. The only other game Stadia has that interests me is Samsho, and I just pre-ordered it off of the EGS for 75% of the price it is on Stadia. Sorry, man, but Stadia need to launch with a larger, better library and a few AAA exclusives. Six months in and it's mostly older games and games you could run on a cell phone five years ago. The infrastructure isn't really there to support it to the level to make it a viable service for a lot of people, and, again, the library is not good and continues to be not good. That's the reality.
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# ? May 29, 2020 00:53 |
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univbee posted:(an Elon Musk thread and a Stock Trading thread), no i can't believe it how could this be
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# ? May 29, 2020 01:12 |
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hostile apostle posted:Folks IIT made their decision about Stadia before trying the product, or evaluating it objectively. Plenty of people here have tried it and the takeaway from basically everyone was "the tech mostly works... but there's still occasional lag and hitching, it looks worse than any other platform due to the compression (and sometimes the graphics settings chosen for the games), the features and UI are woefully incomplete for how long the service has been available, and the game selection and pricing is terrible compared to every other competitor." Other people haven't given it a shot because their internet connection isn't great, which impacts Stadia far harder than local media or streaming services that can buffer. Meanwhile, you keep posting all the new games that are out as though they're some kind of great new discoveries, but people are judging these games because we've already played them. The library is full of completely known quantities. I don't need to watch Zoolander 2 on HBO Max to see if it's a better experience than on Netflix, and I don't need to play the Panzer Dragoon remake on Stadia to know if it lasts any longer than on Switch. The hard work of cultivating a unique and exclusive library of games that define Google's place in the market should have started years before launch, but as it is the platform is defined by being "that place where games go a few months to years after they've been available elsewhere" and you can't expect people to be compelled by that regardless of the technology. Daydream had the exact same problem, where they simply released the platform without putting any effort into getting compelling unique content on it, and it wound up getting Oculus hand-me-downs and died a quiet death a couple years later. You want an objective evaluation rather than empty insults? Fine. The tech behind Stadia is impressive and mostly solid (assuming a solid uninterrupted internet connection, which isn't a given in many areas, especially now with networks more strained than ever) but not meaningfully better or worse than any of its competitors in the game streaming space, the user-facing aspects like features and UI are at least a decade behind the times, and the library isn't compelling at all. It's a tech-first product in an entertainment-first market.
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# ? May 29, 2020 01:15 |
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Dabir posted:It's AAA games. Can't be bothered to optimise anything, so their file size bloats to hell. Input delay doesn't matter, cause all the difficulty has been smoothed out in favour of a cinematic experience that makes the player feel cool. And naturally, plenty of cutscenes - if you're streaming video, might as well just stream an actual video. Boba Pearl posted:CDkeys.com is a grey market reseller like G2A. If you bought it from here you'd literally (and I do mean literally because these purchases are used to launder money from stolen credit cards,) steal from developers/ Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 21:24 on May 29, 2020 |
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hostile apostle posted:Folks IIT made their decision about Stadia before trying the product, or evaluating it objectively. You don't need to bite into a poo poo sandwich to know it's not going to taste very good. It's made of rear end and poo, much like Stadia's game library.
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# ? May 29, 2020 01:55 |
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hostile apostle posted:Folks IIT made their decision about Stadia before trying the product, or evaluating it objectively. all of this looks like googple play shovelware what the gently caress
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Battle For The Grid is way realer than it has any right to be, excluding the most recent patch which sucks. Also mods is there a reason to keep HA around and not just slap him with a perma for being an obvious shill
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Zeta Acosta posted:all of this looks like googple play shovelware what the gently caress Panzer Dragoon was a classic... on the Saturn. The remake is solid enough I guess (it launched with a bunch of issues but patches have mostly fixed it up), but it's an hour long. Superhot's extremely good, but like a lot of recent Stadia games it's a few years old and can run on a toaster.
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