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Mirificus posted:Lots of quotes Stadia: I give it another year and I think everyone will be talking about stadia
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Quantum of Phallus posted:wonder is it better than the streaming version on switch The Switch streaming thing is wild, Performance runs fast but looks hideous and Quality is not much better.
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Jul 27, 2021 21:08
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I knew it, there are rabid fanbois in this thread! Who is it? Show yourself!  Is it Stux?e. I read few last post because of new title, and look, it's coming from inside the thread 
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Jul 27, 2021 21:12
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elmer FUD
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Saoshyant posted:Tag yourself. I'm the bored out of her mind lady on the right, looking into a windowless cubicle where a grown man is blowing out the candles to a Stadia-themed birthday cake. That's not just any photo either, that is Kirk Cameron, insane right wing fundie chud / antivaxxer and general rear end in a top hat. And Sad Little Birthday Boy
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hostile apostle posted:There are certainly people who don't come to discuss in good faith  You're literally a Google employee lmao
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Jul 27, 2021 21:39
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hostile apostle is the perfect Google employee, just reading a massive amount of valid complaints and telling people no, they're wrong and stupid very accurate representation of where Google - I'm sorry, Alphabet - is as a company
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Cloks posted:hostile apostle is the perfect Google employee, just reading a massive amount of valid complaints and telling people no, they're wrong and stupid The MOST valid ones he ignores. Note how he hasn't weighed in at all on the developer profit change issue, which signals to me that either it's correct or he can't dispute it.
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Google's podcast app won't even stream a whole episode of something without crashing at least once and I'm supposed to spend thousands of dollars migrating my library to their new game streaming service?
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Jul 27, 2021 21:50
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doingitwrong posted:This thread needs Stux
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Cloks posted:hostile apostle is the perfect Google employee, just reading a massive amount of valid complaints and telling people no, they're wrong and stupid Isn't that exactly what they did with Chrome tabs?
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Jul 27, 2021 21:56
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Why would you even need an ad blocker, asks the advertisement company as they remove the API required for ad blocking from their browser.
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Jul 27, 2021 21:57
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doingitwrong posted:This thread needs Stux
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Be the Stux you want to see in the world.
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im seeing a lot of unhealthy stux attachment disorder in this thread. p sure there's a support group for that, it's just down the hall
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Rotten Red Rod posted:The MOST valid ones he ignores. Note how he hasn't weighed in at all on the developer profit change issue, which signals to me that either it's correct or he can't dispute it. I don't have any insights into the contract terms w/ publishers and how they work, but the big upfronts for bringing games in, e.g. $8M or whatever it was for RE8, were probably economically unviable to continue. Stadia shifted it's product & engineering focus to building a platform for publishers, so I'd expect more of the Ubisoft sort of partnership where Ubisoft brings all their games to Stadia and anyone subscribing to the service can play them on Stadia for no additional cost, or buy them on Stadia like any other title. Or leaning in on building out the Youtube crowd play features for publishers, and the demos like what Stadia did last fall with Immortals: Fenyx Rising.
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Jesus christ, Google paid Capcom $8 million to port RE8 to Stadia?! That's crazy. I knew they had to be paying a lot for those, but I had no idea it was THAT high. In my eyes, the shift to the new pay-for-days-played over up-front payouts will be likely to chase off indie devs. I can only see that model supporting things like big, bloated open world games like, well, every single Ubisoft game. Any short, self-contained indie game, like Gylt, will be undercompensated by comparison. Crowd play really seems like a non-starter to me. In most cases, a streamer inviting their fans to play sounds unmanageable at best, and probably inviting trolls and stream snipers at worst. Some streamers have made it work, like RT's Minecraft builds, but for the most part I don't see that going well.
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Senator Drinksalot posted:Google's podcast app won't even stream a whole episode of something without crashing at least once and I'm supposed to spend thousands of dollars migrating my library to their new game streaming service? Thing always works fine for me, I can't remember it ever crashing. That would be really annoying. hostile apostle posted:I don't have any insights into the contract terms w/ publishers and how they work, but the big upfronts for bringing games in, e.g. $8M or whatever it was for RE8, were probably economically unviable to continue. I don't really understand Stadia at all... why does it need to be ported again? So you can play it on different devices like your tablet or something? Aren't the stadia servers running the game on Windows just like a normal consumer would?
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Jul 28, 2021 00:32
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Play posted:Aren't the stadia servers running the game on Windows just like a normal consumer would? No. Stadia runs things on gigantic Linux farms. They are closer to SteamOS than Windows. It's impossible to run Windows as a cloud service; ask Microsoft one of the largest Linux users through Azure.
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I bet hostile apostle isn't even a Google employee. He works there, sure, but he's a contractor. Dreaming of someday getting to eat the free cereal.
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The dream is to be unassigned so you can rest and vest on the roof
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hostile apostle posted:I don't have any insights into the contract terms w/ publishers and how they work, but the big upfronts for bringing games in, e.g. $8M or whatever it was for RE8, were probably economically unviable to continue. There's definitely no other game subscription service that can boast having access to a range of games for a single monthly subscription cost without having to buy additional games. So the Stadia is certainly going to have that market cornered in a few years time! Good thing they're focusing on building a platform for publishers now as well instead of ????? they were before, Steam and Epic will need to watch out! btw how do i use the stadia outside of the US, Canada, and parts of Europe? i live in the small region of the world known as asia so its understandable that the stadia can't be used in our small population centers
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ATM Machine posted:btw how do i use the stadia outside of the US, Canada, and parts of Europe? i live in the small region of the world known as asia so its understandable that the stadia can't be used in our small population centers Just VPN into Mountain View, you'll have that 4k 60fps in no time flat!
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Saoshyant posted:No. Stadia runs things on gigantic Linux farms. They are closer to SteamOS than Windows. It's impossible to run Windows as a cloud service; ask Microsoft one of the largest Linux users through Azure. Huh, that's interesting. I wonder why. Or at least, why they wouldn't create a kind of version of Windows that does run okay as a cloud... thingy. Yes I'm kind of dumb
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Saoshyant posted:No. Stadia runs things on gigantic Linux farms. They are closer to SteamOS than Windows. It's impossible to run Windows as a cloud service; ask Microsoft one of the largest Linux users through Azure.  employees caught buying Windows licenses are put in the campus stocks.Instead of losing money on licensing they're losing money by having to shovel it at devs to port anything interesting and seeing service uptake in response.
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Play posted:Huh, that's interesting. I wonder why.
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It's not about licensing fees, you dum-dums. Microsoft themselves host absolutely nothing on Windows. Their entire Azure stack, the second largest cloud service in the world, is entirely built on top of Linux. If Google wanted, they would have entered in an agreement with Microsoft to buy a huge rear end cross-license that would apply to their entire network. The problem is you can't scale up to Netflix size (which was what Stadia was meant to do, but lol) on top of an operating system that barely fits desktop needs well enough. PS: Netflix's servers don't run on Windows either. Play posted:Or at least, why they wouldn't create a kind of version of Windows that does run okay as a cloud... thingy. Because it's not a trivial matter -- they would have to redesign so many parts of Windows to make it work as hypervisor clusters. It's much cheaper for Microsoft to continue improving Linux and use that instead.
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just as a point of comparison: the steam handheld runs linux too (steam os), but they're using a windows api layer that can more or less play a lot of native windows games without any help from the developer. It's not always perfect, and developers can still do a native port if they want better performance, but valve isn't fully dependent on developers being willing to do the work.
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Bad Purchase posted:just as a point of comparison: the steam handheld runs linux too (steam os), but they're using a windows api layer that can more or less play a lot of native windows games without any help from the developer. It's not always perfect, and developers can still do a native port if they want better performance, but valve isn't fully dependent on developers being willing to do the work. Yeah. If Google had been smart they would have worked together with Valve on improving Proton exactly to avoid the pitfalls they are currently on.
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Saoshyant posted:Yeah. If Google had been smart they would have worked together with Valve on improving Proton exactly to avoid the pitfalls they are currently on. This is a whole video of different games running on Proton. https://youtu.be/piqdgXunyXA The hit really isn’t that bad and it would have made things infinitely easier for everyone. He even mentioned one game actually runs better for whatever reason.
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Saoshyant posted:on top of an operating system that barely fits desktop needs well enough.
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hostile apostle posted:ITT: people literally brainwashed by the FUD posting their bad takes and misinfo Please explain how it's FUD and misinformation when I and several other posters itt literally work with the kind of network technology that's needed to make Stadia work and can tell you where and how it will bottleneck beyond Google's control. TheScott2K posted:I bet hostile apostle isn't even a Google employee. He works there, sure, but he's a contractor. Dreaming of someday getting to eat the free cereal. He's literally the Arnold Rimmer of Google; He's likely some low-tier position and seems to think that makes him on par with the go-fast-break-things cool-kid developers just by being in the same building. Neddy Seagoon fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jul 28, 2021 |
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Shumagorath posted:GNU mad You are literally brainwashed by the FUD. Do not spread such misinformation about me such as having a very large portrait of Richard Stallman in my office that I kiss once every day. I shall not stand for such claptrap!
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Hosty. Did they ever fix the real loud and ear breaking screech that would happen with earphones plugged into the $70 okayest controller ever? It was a thing back before I gave up on the stadia.
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cheetah7071 posted:threeway brawl between Stux, FUD, and Stadia 
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