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Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Chubby Henparty posted:

Was there a faster way to read through all the separate m1nx threads without clicking safe mode for each bit? Possibly I was doing it wrong but I'd suggest the ability to lock it on just for a small qol thing in a future patch.

It's a metaphor for the Something Awful forums search function.

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King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
What do you do with Horus? I got into the site, but going into the site didn't seem to do anything. Do I have to go to the websites of the people mentioned in the contest and find the eyes?

Slowflake
Aug 18, 2010

King Vidiot posted:

What do you do with Horus? I got into the site, but going into the site didn't seem to do anything. Do I have to go to the websites of the people mentioned in the contest and find the eyes?

Not sure how you're supposed to find this out, but:

Isn't there a file filled with passwords you got somewhere?

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

King Vidiot posted:

What do you do with Horus? I got into the site, but going into the site didn't seem to do anything. Do I have to go to the websites of the people mentioned in the contest and find the eyes?

The site has nothing for you, just move on.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I mean I already beat the game, I just had that one last HAP thing to clear up and it's bugging me.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

King Vidiot posted:

I mean I already beat the game, I just had that one last HAP thing to clear up and it's bugging me.

Oh. Getting past the password should be enough to clear it.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Some idiots use the same password for all their sites.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I did love the detail of the webmaster calling somebody out for talking about Horus outside of the site, and you can assume it's the guy whose password you used because it's something like "ra ra horus".

Metroid Fitzgerald
Feb 13, 2012

B O O O O B S . . . !


Coolpunk is dead. Long live PizzaStyle.



King Vidiot posted:

I did love the detail of the webmaster calling somebody out for talking about Horus outside of the site, and you can assume it's the guy whose password you used because it's something like "ra ra horus".

I'm not sure about that guy but the other guy getting called out is the Chowder Man which means that he's been hiding Illuminati HORUS references in his songs.

On a somewhat related note, I'm BWL at the Mike Truk and Bobson Dugnutt cameos.

Metroid Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 01:03 on Apr 3, 2019

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin
I finished this a while back but it's been bouncing around in my beefbrain a while.

It really felt like a trip back to being a teenager. For how bizarre and weird everything was, it felt really authentic... sorta like how it actually was in the 90's.

I liked Tim's site, it was like the kind of thing that I would have thought was really cool as a teen, and I'd have wished I was savvy enough to make something so cool.

I felt bad for Rebekah, the squishers fan, but I guess I'm glad she had to quit.

Odddzy
Oct 10, 2007
Once shot a man in Reno.
premature judgement on the game, I'll post later to figure out if I was wrong.

Odddzy fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Apr 4, 2019

Gaspy Conana
Aug 1, 2004

this clown loves you

Odddzy posted:

Has there been any comment by the creators on the fact that this game pumped a bunch of ideas off Tetrageddon and hasn't given any credit to the creator of that game?

Hi. Here's a numbered list of fun facts:

1) I've been an enormous fan of Nathalie's work after discovering it at a Fantastic Arcade in 2015. I've made numerous tweets supporting her work, and I've also retweeted almost every new announcement of hers. At least as much as they come across my twitter feed. I've signal boosted whenever possible, so it's enormously disheartening to me that I'm dealing with a barrage of garbage from people who don't know how to use internet search.

2) Hypnospace's initial prequel, also featuring a fake os and pastiche on "information superhighway" concept (albeit a FAR less robust one) was from May of 2014, a full year and a half before I discovered her stuff. Here's the trailer for that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T67HmBbIPRs

3) Hypnospace Outlaw is only similar to Tetrageddon in that it contains things also common in late 1990s web and CD-ROM software. Virtual Pets, etc etc. This is a broad field and it isn't a scandal that multiple developers who were brought up at around the same time would make multiple games set in fake operating systems featuring emulations of the things that actually existed at the time. One person doesn't own this space, and her work isn't even the first place I encountered a fake OS in interactive media. Did you even play Tetrageddon though? They're completely structurally different and the aesthetic isn't even similar. They also serve completely different purposes: Nathalie's works are very personal, abstract, zine-y, and expressive while mine are very game-y, character driven, and lore/worldbuilding based.

If you want to find where I really pumped ideas from, check this stuff out:
- http://oocities.org
- CD-ROMS from https://archive.org & a WinXP virtual machine
- netcafe: https://archive.org/details/netcafe
- One Terabyte of Kilobyte Age (among other work by Olia Lialina and Despens) http://blog.geocities.institute
- EDIT: almost forgot, this podcast: http://www.internethistorypodcast.com/

I get that it must suck to all of a sudden have a folks cite MY game as the first of its kind when you've done "fake OS" stuff a while, but I can't control what other people say or think. I can't help that my game got relatively popular. The fact remains that they really are completely different projects. Her work is amazing but if I wanted to "pump" ideas it wouldn't have ended up the same.

Gaspy Conana fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Apr 3, 2019

Odddzy
Oct 10, 2007
Once shot a man in Reno.

Gaspy Conana posted:

Hi. Here's a numbered list of fun facts:

1) I've been an enormous fan of Nathalie's work after discovering it at a Fantastic Arcade in 2015. I've made numerous tweets supporting her work, and I've also retweeted almost every new announcement of hers. At least as much as they come across my twitter feed. I've signal boosted whenever possible, so it's enormously disheartening to me that I'm dealing with a barrage of garbage from people who don't know how to use internet search.

2) Hypnospace's initial prequel, also featuring a fake os and pastiche on "information superhighway" concept (albeit a FAR less robust one) was from May of 2014, a full year and a half before I discovered her stuff. Here's the trailer for that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T67HmBbIPRs

3) Hypnospace Outlaw is only similar to Tetrageddon in that it contains things also common in late 1990s web and CD-ROM software. Virtual Pets, etc etc. This is a broad field and it isn't a scandal that multiple developers who were brought up at around the same time would make multiple games set in fake operating systems featuring emulations of the things that actually existed at the time. One person doesn't own this space, and her work isn't even the first place I encountered a fake OS in interactive media. Did you even play Tetrageddon though? They're completely structurally different and the aesthetic isn't even similar. They also serve completely different purposes: Nathalie's works are very personal, abstract, zine-y, and expressive while mine are very game-y, character driven, and lore/worldbuilding based.

If you want to find where I really pumped ideas from, check this stuff out:
- http://oocities.org
- CD-ROMS from https://archive.org & a WinXP virtual machine
- netcafe: https://archive.org/details/netcafe
- One Terabyte of Kilobyte Age (among other work by Olia Lialina and Despens) http://blog.geocities.institute
- EDIT: almost forgot, this podcast: http://www.internethistorypodcast.com/

I get that it must suck to all of a sudden have a folks cite MY game as the first of its kind when you've done "fake OS" stuff a while, but I can't control what other people say or think. I can't help that my game got relatively popular. The fact remains that they really are completely different projects. Her work is amazing but if I wanted to "pump" ideas it wouldn't have ended up the same.

Fair enough, I'll look into your post and not judge too quick (I'll edit my previous post). I don't know much and I do believe you've put a tremendous amount of effort in the game from what little I can see. But at the same time, if there are too many similairites and you got popular, people will ask questions.

I was having a conversation over lunch with a coworker that mentioned her work and how she's quite disappointed about the fact she feels like she doesn't get much credit given for her work and reading her words on twitter and others I believe comparisons can be done to Hypnospace but I'll reserve judgement in good faith once i've gone through both games.

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
Aaaand I go to the Tetrageddon page to check out what you guys are talking about for myself, only to find out I've already bookmarked it :psyduck:

Turns out she made Anatomically Incorrect Dinosaurs, so that's cool. Also I tossed her a sixer and bought her "game", so at least some good came out of all this!


Also thanks, I couldn't for the life of me remember what that Geocities online archive was called. Gonna be digging through that for a while.

King Vidiot fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Apr 4, 2019

Sokani
Jul 20, 2006



Bison

Gaspy Conana posted:

Hi. Here's a numbered list of fun facts:

Thanks for this, I had never heard of Tetrageddon and it's nice to read a non-hostile response to the question. Cheers on the game!

friendly 2 da void
Mar 23, 2018

Gaspy Conana posted:

If you want to find where I really pumped ideas from, check this stuff out:
- http://oocities.org
- CD-ROMS from https://archive.org & a WinXP virtual machine
- netcafe: https://archive.org/details/netcafe
- One Terabyte of Kilobyte Age (among other work by Olia Lialina and Despens) http://blog.geocities.institute
- EDIT: almost forgot, this podcast: http://www.internethistorypodcast.com/

I get that it must suck to all of a sudden have a folks cite MY game as the first of its kind when you've done "fake OS" stuff a while, but I can't control what other people say or think. I can't help that my game got relatively popular. The fact remains that they really are completely different projects. Her work is amazing but if I wanted to "pump" ideas it wouldn't have ended up the same.

If you didn't at least take some inspiration from the work of Evan Collins and his consumer aesthetics archives (GVC, Factory Pomo) then I'll eat my hat :colbert:

Just kidding I love this game and think you're a genius

Gaspy Conana
Aug 1, 2004

this clown loves you
OH, yea, yer dang right I took inspiration from Evan/Froyo's stuff! https://twitter.com/y2k_aesthetic/
Especially Global Village Coffeehouse: https://www.facebook.com/groups/288047698281354/?multi_permalinks=641896672896453&notif_id=1549124131037629&notif_t=group_highlights

Tho I was already landing on the global village thing independently just because it's so prevalent in corporate design in the mid 90s.

Catboy Autonomist
Jun 23, 2018

IS IT SUPWISING THAT PWISONS WESEMBWE FACTOWIES, SCHOOWS, WHICH AWW WESEMBWE PWISONS?
"90s OS simulator" actually seems to be growing into something of a small subgenre as of late (see also: Her Story and that one game where I think you're a trans girl and you're browsing a forum in like 1999 but I cannot remember the name for the life of me) which is actually kind of cool

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Just another lost phone?

Slowflake
Aug 18, 2010

Also, Digital: A Love Story.

Oblivion4568238
Oct 10, 2012

The Inquisition.
What a show.
The Inquisition.
Here. We. Go.
College Slice

Catboy Autonomist posted:

that one game where I think you're a trans girl and you're browsing a forum in like 1999 but I cannot remember the name for the life of me

Secret Little Haven

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Found this online.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Aww yiss, just found this thread looking for something else. I'm so glad this game is getting well known out there. I'm friends with one of the writers and he deserves all the success because he's honestly amazing. :toot:

Modus Pwnens
Dec 29, 2004
Shaking the mouse to load faster was in inspired decision.

FutureFriend
Dec 28, 2011

got a gangtag for all the zaneheads out there

Catboy Autonomist
Jun 23, 2018

IS IT SUPWISING THAT PWISONS WESEMBWE FACTOWIES, SCHOOWS, WHICH AWW WESEMBWE PWISONS?

FutureFriend posted:

got a gangtag for all the zaneheads out there



why does the zane club wanna cut off his head tho

FutureFriend
Dec 28, 2011

its how hed want to go, incredibly badass

vvv uhhh, he does not SUCK, troll

FutureFriend fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Apr 13, 2019

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

prob should have 'SUCKS' pop up after his head comes off.

KirbyKhan
Mar 20, 2009



Soiled Meat

Synthbuttrange posted:

prob should have 'SUCKS' pop up after his head comes off.

That would be harassment. Im not taking another 3 day probie.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FutureFriend posted:

got a gangtag for all the zaneheads out there



Hell loving yes

Automatonic Water
Jul 8, 2012

dig thru the ditches
and burn thru the witches
and slam in the back of my.........
.........DRAGULA


Yams Fan

Gaspy Conana posted:

OH, yea, yer dang right I took inspiration from Evan/Froyo's stuff! https://twitter.com/y2k_aesthetic/
Especially Global Village Coffeehouse: https://www.facebook.com/groups/288047698281354/?multi_permalinks=641896672896453&notif_id=1549124131037629&notif_t=group_highlights

Tho I was already landing on the global village thing independently just because it's so prevalent in corporate design in the mid 90s.

Many thanks dude this led me to recall the name of a toy I had when I was a kid that i've been looking for for months. https://zolo.com/

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


how does one flag a page that has copywritten music on it?

edit: dammit i didn't know my lovesquid could die.

Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Apr 14, 2019

Roobanguy
May 31, 2011

Groovelord Neato posted:

how does one flag a page that has copywritten music on it?

edit: dammit i didn't know my lovesquid could die.

edit: wait misread what you asked. i'm not sure you can.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Groovelord Neato posted:

how does one flag a page that has copywritten music on it?

edit: dammit i didn't know my lovesquid could die.

they don't care about pages that stream copywritten music; it's download links they wanna kill

Songbearer
Jul 12, 2007




Fuck you say?
I'm not reading this topic because I want to avoid any potential surprises and spoilers but holy poo poo this game is incredible and I love it. I didn't expect it to be so deep and have fun puzzles to work out that make me feel smart while tickling my nostalgia and making me genuinely laugh so hard. A huge congratulations to everyone involved in making this game and it absolutely deserves discussion in any Game of the Year debates because I've never seen a concept nailed so perfectly.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

https://twitter.com/bonerman_inc/status/1117590891068149760

King Vidiot
Feb 17, 2007

You think you can take me at Satan's Hollow? Go 'head on!
I loved the rollercoaster of emotions I felt during the Gumshoe Gooper case and aftermath. I felt bad about flagging a page full of children's drawings so I actually chose to just banhammer the CGI Goopers and leave the drawings alone, and didn't flag the teacher. Then there was an uproar about it later and I felt even worse, until I noticed the most vocal people were horrible "MUH FREE SPEECH" rightwinger types. Then I read about the creator of Gumshoe Gooper and felt vindicated as I went on a banhammer spree.

gently caress Gumshoe Gooper.

KRILLIN IN THE NAME
Mar 25, 2006

:ssj:goku i won't do what u tell me:ssj:



My only regret putting this together was that I couldn't find the proper banhammer image in the game files, pretty sure that one is from one of the "under construction" gifs. I think the program I used to stitch together the two gifs (animation shop) is from the 90s too, maybe early 2000s

King Vidiot posted:

Then I read about the creator of Gumshoe Gooper and felt vindicated as I went on a banhammer spree.

gently caress Gumshoe Gooper.

If you haven't already try searching socialism

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


i didn't even think to flag the drawings i just flagged the actual goopers.

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ChaseSP
Mar 25, 2013



Personally I love the Gumshoe Gooper drawing that's so horrible you can't even successfully report it.

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