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flakeloaf posted:Hang on lemme see if I can untangle this  But in all seriousness, the Crown goes to the mat on disclosure hearings to prevent having to disclose how these operate/manuals/etc. It's very frustrating for counsel who are involved in this sort of defence work (read: have significant drug practices).
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What the gently caress do you need to sign an NDA for to talk to your MPP? Jesus.
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It's all about scaring people off. No court will uphold an NDA which an MPP compels upon his constituents in order to get access.
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Maneck posted:It's all about scaring people off. No court will uphold an NDA which an MPP compels upon his constituents in order to get access. But you'll still need a lawyer and resources to fight it! Speaking of which, Drewjitsu, is there any kind of charity or fund that funds plaintiffs or lawyers in challenging poo poo like this? I already donate to the CCLA, but I'm curious if there's anyone else, because gently caress this poo poo.
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Drewjitsu posted:What the gently caress do you need to sign an NDA for to talk to your MPP? Jesus. Here's a fun question, who is the NDA between exactly and what does it cover? Hopefully someone leaks one sooner than later.
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PT6A posted:But you'll still need a lawyer and resources to fight it! https://www.ucalgary.ca/pilc/ Might be a good place to start locally. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't turn money away if you want to donate. Edit: https://ccla.org/ seem national, but I'm willing to bet they have a focus on Ontario. Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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https://twitter.com/ctvedmonton/status/1110142116246761472 You'd think that the UCP might have asked itself "how has the right lost elections in Alberta in the past" and then decided to not do that.
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Pinterest Mom posted:You'd think that the UCP might have asked itself "how has the right lost elections in Alberta in the past" and then decided to not do that. Well, historically speaking, they haven't really, have they? Just the once.
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Pinterest Mom posted:https://twitter.com/ctvedmonton/status/1110142116246761472 The last dumpstered candidate complained about someone threatening* her too. Someone in the UCP inner circle, who has access to their candidates non-public postings, is obviously disgusted by the fact the party is running Islamophobic and white-nationalist dog whistle using candidates. *Defined in the UCP dictionary as "Alerting the public about her expressed views and statements."
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infernal machines posted:Well, historically speaking, they haven't really, have they? Just the once. And according to our resident Albertans here, the thing that lost them that election wasn't any candidate gaffe about hating minorities, it was a combination of vote splitting and the leader of the PCs telling Albertans that they were actually at fault for the province's economic collapse, and they shouldn't blame it on random others.
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When is a child not a child? When she's a "sexually mature young woman" who consents to sex with her The father's lawyer, you presume? Oho. Hoo no, no that wouldn't be news at all. https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/ont-lawyer-claims-14-and-15-year-old-girls-are-sexually-mature-1.4350351 quote:The lawyer for an Ontario children’s aid society is facing criticism for claiming a 14- or 15-year-old girl is a “sexually mature young woman,” not a child.
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it's funny since while Prentice had a point that Albertans were responsible, that's more because they voted in people like Ralph Klein, who proceeded to do things like raid the Heritage Fund to give everyone $400 that one time. Also, all these UCP people stepping down, aren't they just going to get replaced immediately with other people? There must be a waiting list to get people in constituencies, since no one in the province truly cares about who represents their riding, they just care that their party has control of the legislature
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The election the hardcore conservatives really lost for displaying their awful views wasn't 2015, it was 2012, where swathes of urban people voted for the PCs in order to prevent the Wildrose party from winning.
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infernal machines posted:Well, historically speaking, they haven't really, have they? Just the once. Well I'm counting 2012 and the lake of fire stuff here too. Notley's winning coalition this time around needs most of the people who were turned off by Wildrose and voted for Redford's PCs to vote for the NDP.
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Aces High posted:it's funny since while Prentice had a point that Albertans were responsible, that's more because they voted in people like Ralph Klein, who proceeded to do things like raid the Heritage Fund to give everyone $400 that one time. Yes and no. Ralphbux wasn't as a big a deal as the continuous stream of morons, both before and after, demanding low tax, no debt and high levels of services all at the same time.
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It's probably for the best because polls are such poo poo these days but the Alberta election really demonstrates how much less polling there is in Canadian politics. If this were an American race we'd have a new poll every day. Leger and Mainstreet both seem to have shown a big drop for the UCP between February and March though we have yet to see a single poll where their lead isn't in double digits. PT6A posted:Yes and no. Ralphbux wasn't as a big a deal as the continuous stream of morons, both before and after, demanding low tax, no debt and high levels of services all at the same time. So you still planning to vote Liberal in the fall?
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Helsing posted:It's probably for the best because polls are such poo poo these days but the Alberta election really demonstrates how much less polling there is in Canadian politics. If this were an American race we'd have a new poll every day. Leger and Mainstreet both seem to have shown a big drop for the UCP between February and March though we have yet to see a single poll where their lead isn't in double digits. Also important: zero poling by riding makes predicting results hard in a FPTP electoral system.
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Helsing posted:So you still planning to vote Liberal in the fall? Right now, no. Provincially I'm going to vote NDP, and then federally I will vote for whoever has the best chance of defeating the conservative in my riding. If it's the Liberals again, so be it, but I'll have to hold my nose something fierce for that vote.
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Oh for fucks sake CBC, where are your articles on Notley? https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/kenney-ucp-secession-support-alberta-election-1.5069971 quote:The leader of Alberta's United Conservative Party says many people in the province support secession from Canada, based on what he calls "a real tension that runs through the hearts of many Albertans." The party states in a news release that a recent poll found "a shocking 50 per cent of Albertans surveyed said they support secession from Canada." Kenney says in the release that most Albertans are proud Canadians, but they will no longer tolerate the rest the country benefiting from the province's resources while trying to hold back its economy. Did no one in the media learn anything from Trump's election? You're giving these crazy fuckers free publicity! Also, I would love to know where that survey Kenney references came from, because I highly doubt almost 2 million people actually do want to secede from Canada. Maybe they're Rebel readers or some poo poo. Christ
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Helsing posted:It's probably for the best because polls are such poo poo these days but the Alberta election really demonstrates how much less polling there is in Canadian politics. If this were an American race we'd have a new poll every day. Leger and Mainstreet both seem to have shown a big drop for the UCP between February and March though we have yet to see a single poll where their lead isn't in double digits. Mainstreet is doing daily tracking, but it's behind a 45 dollar paywall. They (and people who have access to the numbers) claim to show a tightening race, but they have even more of a direct financial incentive to show a close race than pollsters usually do.
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Aces High posted:Oh for fucks sake CBC, where are your articles on Notley? Then let them know. Write a letter and let them know that what they are doing is supporting racism and they are being irresponsible. write enough of them and cbc will choke.
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No, but you see, it's very important that we hear both sides.
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Speaking of how terrible the Canadian media is, let's use this opportunity to despair over the NDP. I somehow missed this last year:quote:Media sector gets $595-million package in Ottawa’s fiscal update It's never a good feeling when you can't decide whether your party's leader is 1) one of those politicians who has trained themselves to never actually say anything meaningful, resulting in a person who just spouts off platitudes designed to win over supporters, without any underlying beliefs or principles 2) a genuinely dumb person who is saying what they actually think
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We have an advertisement we want to show to people. Should we sell it to the largest advertising company that's ever existed, or the not-at-all-suspiciously-named Signs N' Coupons Promotions?
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Yay Omar Khadr is going to be free: https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2019/03/25/edmonton-judge-to-rule-on-whether-omar-khadrs-sentence-has-expired.html
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quote:Whitling has also argued that the military commission that sentenced Khadr has been widely discredited by legal experts. He then went on to claim that water contributes slightly to humidity.
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Aces High posted:Oh for fucks sake CBC, where are your articles on Notley? 50% does seems slightly high, but 40% wouldn’t surprise me right now. Over half my co workers would happily vote to secede if given the chance. While it’s a biased sample pool because of the industry, there is a strong sentiment out there. Essentially they’re saying if Alberta is going to be hemmed in by surounding provinces and the only pipelines that will be built are in the US, why continue to pay into Canada? That’s what Kenny keeps hammering at. He wants move tax collection authority to Alberta, and pull Alberta out of all transfer payments with the federal government, both receiving and sending. It’s not a great platform, but to does resonate with a lot of angry albertans.
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My impression of Albertan separatism has usually been that it isn't that Albertans don't think of themselves as Canadian, it's that they think of the rest of the country as un-Canadian.
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So the media grants are for non-profit, general news print media with 2 or more employees? Excellent, I look forward to the government funding Your Ward News in order to support diverse voices.
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Arivia posted:So the media grants are for non-profit, general news print media with 2 or more employees? Excellent, I look forward to the government funding Your Ward News in order to support diverse voices. Don't worry the Liberals thought this through and figured out who the best people to judge journalistic integrity are: quote:An independent panel comprised of members of the news and journalism industry will flesh out the application of the moves announced in Wednesday’s fall economic statement. In particular, the group will decide which journalism jobs and which news organizations are eligible for the new funding. I see no problems with this.
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Okay working on a methodology to maximize our chances. Feel free to tinker with it because we need to convince people outside of Edmonton and Lethbridge and I'm feeling a need to at least have an idea what we can do. 1. Vote. this is pretty much a no brainer, but if you want this government, you vote. any vote that isn't for the ndp at this point is for the ucp. We have elections Canada so we don't have the gerrymandering shenanigans of the states so vote, come hell or high water. 2. That being said, convincing them that the ucp are charlatans works in our favor because it splits their vote and/or makes them sit at home during election day. 3. Listen. Figure out why they are mad. Try to find common ground. Don't say they have to vote, but they need to be informed. If you find why they are mad, post it here and we can hammer out solutions as time progresses. Sometimes it may be as simple as empathy. 4. If you find out why they are mad, send the info to your running candidate. They may have a trick or two that we aren't aware of and might provide suggestions 5. arguing with them doesn't usually work. All it makes is people double down. 6. Find out what news media they follow. If it's global, see if you can find their news story. They seem to be wiping their stories as of late, so showing them a news story disappearing may get them angry at their news source which may drive a wedge. 7. Rebel Media is the enemy, pure and simple. No idea how to shut down their message, but open to suggestions. 8. A lot of this issue is what I call "Kim Campbell syndrome" aka put a woman in charge of the party so they will be blamed for its crash. The big difference is that unlike her Rachel Notley actually won a term and did things. I've heard a lot of people accusing her of being a certain female dog and are voting against her because of that, which is unspeakably petty. In these cases, see if you can displace it by pointing them instead at the MLA and see if it gets a better response. Now pep talk time. Albertans are the Dwarves of Canada. We're a tough industrious people that are known for our stubbornness. Whenever you are getting down, hum a few bars of the following. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytWz0qVvBZ0 It will cheer you up something fierce. 
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Gorau posted:50% does seems slightly high, but 40% wouldn’t surprise me right now. Over half my co workers would happily vote to secede if given the chance. While it’s a biased sample pool because of the industry, there is a strong sentiment out there. Essentially they’re saying if Alberta is going to be hemmed in by surounding provinces and the only pipelines that will be built are in the US, why continue to pay into Canada? That’s what Kenny keeps hammering at. He wants move tax collection authority to Alberta, and pull Alberta out of all transfer payments with the federal government, both receiving and sending. It’s not a great platform, but to does resonate with a lot of angry albertans. You work with Lawrence Solomon? Or maybe Jack Mintz? infernal machines fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Mar 25, 2019 |
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Helsing posted:Don't worry the Liberals thought this through and figured out who the best people to judge journalistic integrity are: both of the Kays are going to be on this panel aren't they
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Helsing posted:Don't worry the Liberals thought this through and figured out who the best people to judge journalistic integrity are: Can wait to see how many PostMedia Columnists the Federal government will directly subsidize to insult them daily
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THC posted:both of the Kays are going to be on this panel aren't they Wouldn't be surprised if the panel has three K's.
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