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Will You Miss Indie Wrestling?
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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


The indies are dead. The wrestlers all signed with AEW or are property of the WWE Performance Center.

EVOLVE is now AA NXT. It is not an indie. People will probably try to talk about it in this thread but they should be banned for doing so.

BEYOND is planning ritualistic suicide. They stopped running weekend events and in April will start running a weekly streaming show. It will air on https://independentwrestling.tv

The first show features Masato Tanaka vs David Starr and SCU vs Team Pazuzu.

Future episodes feature:

quote:

ORANGE CASSIDY & ??? VS. JORDYNNE GRACE & ???
BEAVER BOYS (JOHN SILVER & ALEX REYNOLDS) OPEN CHALLENGE
MAXWELL JACOB FRIEDMAN

Announced for Beyond Wrestling #UnchartedTerritory Episode 2 - 4/10/19:

AUSSIE OPEN (MARK DAVIS & KYLE FLETCHER)

GANGREL

Announced for Beyond Wrestling #UnchartedTerritory Episode 3 - 4/17/19:

CHUCK TAYLOR

Announced for Beyond Wrestling #UnchartedTerritory Episode 4 - 4/24/19:

THE BUTCHER & THE BLADE (ANDY WILLIAMS & PEPPER PARKS)

Announced for Beyond Wrestling #UnchartedTerritory Episode 5 - 5/1/19:

TRENT? BERETTA

Announced for Beyond Wrestling #UnchartedTerritory Episode 6 - 5/8/19:
DEATH MATCH: RICKEY SHANE PAGE VS. ERIC RYAN

PWG had trouble selling tickets to their last show. They are doomed. If you click on their roster page it takes you to merch because AEW and WWE signed everyone. So it goes.

Their last show was 200 and I don't see any announcements of future shows on their twitter.

NOVA Pro is legitimately dead because they stopped paying talent. They pulled out of their WM weekend date which will now be an Orange Cassidy show and then cancelled their March 30th show. RIP. Or maybe they are trying to move it and pretend they aren't dead. There is conflicting info out there.

CZW CZW has been in a weird downward spiral the last few years. It's all karma for them cop calling on GCW. The Mancer Mance Warner won the CZW title in an uninspiring Cage of Death match, The Rep are the tag champions and Jordan Oliver is the Wired Champion.

Their next show WrestlePro vs CZW on WM weekend but their next full CZW show is Best of the Best on 4/13. Mancer will defend against MJF who was forced to vacate before COD.

quote:

There can only be one! Join CZW as we determine who is truly the Best of the Best. This tournament has launched the careers of wrestling greats like Sonjay Dutt, Sami Callihan and Chris Hero. Who will walk away with the trophy and title ĎBest of the Bestí? Hereís your competitors for this years tournamentÖ
http://www.czwrestling.com/event/be...-2019-april-13/

AAW does not realize the indies are dead and are running shows and stuff. They just ran a week or so ago

https://twitter.com/AAWPro/status/1107128993290088451

https://twitter.com/AAWPro/status/1108888038644596737

https://twitter.com/Beezzzzy/status/1108746030311448577

People in Chicago love em even though it's an indie so they are dead.

Even though ISW MS died and came back from the dead again (and maybe have died again who knows) Black Label Pro has kind of taken over the mantle that IWA MS used to have in the midwest. They will also have a show on Mania weekend but their next regular show:

https://twitter.com/BLabelPro/statu...780168380907525

https://twitter.com/BLabelPro/statu...495835631964161

If you are in the Northwest you've got DEFY

https://www.defywrestling.com/

They bring in a lot of talent and I've heard the shows are good. But they are dead. Next full Defy show is April 13th in Portland. Only thing they announced on their site was Jimmy Havoc.

Now indie wrestling might be dead but you know what's not dead? DEATH MATCHES AND PRODUCE SHOWS!

That's right it's G C loving W!

Game Changer Wrestling is changing the game! They've got a million Mania weekend shows from Spring Break to Bloodsport (should be illegal to call a show Bloodsport and not run a tournament) to the Orange Cassidy produce show which is replacing NOVA.

GCW's champion is Nick Gage and their signature events are the Joey Janela shows and TOURNAMENT OF SURVIVAL! Hopefully once Mania Weekend is over we will get news about Tournament of Survival. Each one has been great and last year they drew 1,000+. They've run some really good shows lately and are worth checking out.

If you want to watch a bunch of indie wrestling there is https://independentwrestling.tv/
But it's all dead.

If you want to talk about the Mania weekend cards go here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...hreadid=3882572

MassRafTer fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Mar 22, 2019

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Cavauro
Jan 9, 2008



John Zandig

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012

plz remember that it was ~ME~ who told you that everything you like is actually really not good, because I knew all along.





Great OP as always MRT <3

stab
Feb 12, 2003


To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high



Write up the canadian indies next we are fun and rule and you can rarely see us

Edit content here the IWS is having their 20th year anniversary show on Saturday.




Edit: not dead but WWE signs the guys so ok but rip

stab fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Mar 22, 2019

karmicknight
Aug 21, 2011



I am here to pay my respects for independent professional wrestling. Thank you for a good op and the opportunity, MRT.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


Also WrestleCircus is threatening to live again.

I refuse to recognize Canadian indies until Giant Tiger is regularly tweeting again, which he doesn't because indie wrestling is dead.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?


Excellent OP, it's just a shame the Indies are dead and can't enjoy it

Edit: Ian Rotten just PMed me asking for gas money to get home after paying for an account to read this thread.

stab
Feb 12, 2003


To you from failing hands we throw the torch, be yours to hold it high



MassRafTer posted:

Also WrestleCircus is threatening to live again.

I refuse to recognize Canadian indies until Giant Tiger is regularly tweeting again, which he doesn't because indie wrestling is dead.

Thats because he lost the password in a drunken binge and doesnt know how to reset it

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca


Now that NOVA is dead the official promotion of the nationís capital is FLYING V FIGHTS which has run one show, in a black box theatre with lasers

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003

Get running
Start pumping your bunions, I'm coming
I'm the dumbest, who flamethrow your function to Funyons
Flame your crew quicker than Trump fucks his youngest
Now face the flame fuckers your fame and fate's done with



Boco_T posted:

Now that NOVA is dead the official promotion of the nation’s capital is FLYING V FIGHTS which has run one show, in a black box theatre with lasers
Yeah it ruled. I hope their second show in July also has lasers. Also they're cool because they are a nonprofit and all their proceeds are given to charities.

If you're a Baltimoron there is MCW Pro Wrestling which is a ROH Dojo and seems to be doing well. Their shows are generally fun, and they are having a crab-eating benefit for their lead trainer who was just diagnosed with cancer. Velveteen Dream and Lio Rush both came out of there.

syzpid
Aug 9, 2014


The most important question, is NWA dead or alive?

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

"Why yes, this is a tie with dollar signs on it.

Jealous?"



syzpid posted:

The most important question, is NWA dead or alive?

In The Kingdom Of Jocephus there is eternal life.

born on a buy you
Aug 14, 2005



Odd Fullback
Bird Gang
Sack Them All




DEFY is good and itís fun seeing shows in a small theatre

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

yahallo


The Mancer

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

Almanya Ųnde!
Bir başka hedef!
Sonsuz şef LŲw iÁin zafer!




RIP indie wrestling, killed by WWE and some guys trying really hard to look like they're not WWE!

WSAENOTSOCK
Apr 13, 2002


Is MLW not an indie?

Big Dave
Nov 6, 2009

Friends don't shake hands, friends gotta hug!



bix put it best
https://twitter.com/davidbix/status/1086317222748930048

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!



Sounds like a great time for everyone to start watching ATTACK! Pro Wrestling.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010



Can add that CWF Mid-Atlantic is dead since the only heartbeat left after they fired their booker and the technical director quit was the never-ending title run of Trevor Lee who finally made it to NXT.

I haven't been following PWX but they still seem to be doing well.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011






so the British indies are dying as well, as Progress is p much a subsidiary of the WWE, and ICW is...well idk if it's monetarily linked to the Fed but it's not that good these days.

I'd do an effortpost about Discovery Wrestling (my local indie in Scotland), but that's gone on hiatus until next October (b/c the Scottish indies are dying) and they only ever did, like, one show every 1.5 months before then

tbh when I get more into the Berlin wrestling scene I might end up doing an effortpost about GWF since they kinda rule + have a lot of cool indie European talent, but for now I can only say: rip in peace Western indie wrestling, late capitalism was always doomed to catch up with you eventually

Venomous fucked around with this message at 11:28 on Mar 22, 2019

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

"Why yes, this is a tie with dollar signs on it.

Jealous?"



SMH that May can't come to a deal that saves the Scottish indies

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 10, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick



Nap Ghost

Beyond does have some non-Uncharted Territory shows coming up before we hit Americanara this summer.

On 5/5 they are running a LETHAL LOTTERY from North Kingstown, MA.

https://twitter.com/SEExperienceYT/...124751912988672

On June 9th, they will be running a show at Faneuil Hall Marketplace

https://twitter.com/beyondwrestling...043988538396679

Also Uncharted territory will be available for streaming and VOD through FITE if you're not an IW.TV guy

https://twitter.com/FiteTV/status/1108714805744013313

Sticky Nate
Jan 9, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo


mdk

fadmonkey
Nov 13, 2002





Oh great I just got into indie wrestling and now itís dead, thanks a lot.

Cage Kicker
Feb 20, 2009

2nd Place at the Waupaca County Cuddle-Fest, again

Lipstick Apathy

At least we still have the backyard feds on YouTube

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


Cage Kicker posted:

At least we still have the backyard feds on YouTube

Only the death match feds. All the work rate and dream match backyard feds are getting raided.

Raffles
Dec 7, 2004



OTT still exists and is pretty dope.

Draxion
Jun 9, 2013




AIW is still going perhaps too strongly for their own good. After losing their venue late last year they didn't do anything in January, but then came back with like ten shows announced from February and May to check out new venues and the audiences each can get.

Huge numbers of people who are now in WWE spent a lot of time in AIW (Shayna Baszler is still women's champion somehow) but as they've all been getting signed the shows have started to focus more on the AIW students, who I think are all pretty good.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

Fundamentals as sound as the WNBA


ICW, OTT, The Nazi Bird Fed and WXW have all been co-opted by WWE and have their own thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...hreadid=3863610

But like real indies they will all be dead soon.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



PWG being dead would make me sadder if it weren't going on hiatus for a really positive reason.

Excalibur

fadmonkey
Nov 13, 2002





What's this about PWG being on hiatus?

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

BROTHER I WANT YOU TO JOIN THE DSA AND SUBSCRIBE TO THE AWARD WINNING WWE NETWORK FOR ONLY $9.99 A MONTH


My local indie International Wrestling Cartel does pretty well and has a good mix of local and more well known workers that pop in and out. (Gresham vs David Starr from last year's Super Indy 16 tourney was my personal MOTY that few saw)

Know the owner and he's a nice guy, shame he works for the MIC with his job that involves the Navy

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010



fadmonkey posted:

What's this about PWG being on hiatus?

Basically the indies being raided and Excalibur (who owns part of PWG) working for AEW and NJPW as a commentator have put their future in question

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Mar 22, 2019

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

still a threat



Where is John ďlovingĒ Zandig when we need him the most?

Pinche Rudo
Feb 8, 2005



Broke his back with the burden of saving indie wrestling

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011






Jeezus.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011






MassRafTer posted:

ICW, OTT, The Nazi Bird Fed and WXW have all been co-opted by WWE and have their own thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/s...hreadid=3863610

But like real indies they will all be dead soon.

I was about to radaradarada about the inclusion of RevPro in those WWE satellites, but then I remembered that itís p much NJPW UK, so yeah, thatís fair lmao

e: Riptideís still a legit indie tho, right? Or wait, is that the one owned by Trent Seven? idk
e2: no, wait, Iím thinking of Attack owned by Pete Dunne lmao. Anyway, British indies are dying so thatís kinda fair

Venomous fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Mar 22, 2019

NienNunb
Feb 15, 2012

still a threat



If you regularly watch Progress (which isnít an indie) you are a bad person.

BaldipISW
Mar 28, 2012


poo poo, I wish ISW Mid-South was a thing, I would love to go to scenic Midlothian for a good time.

BaldipISW fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Mar 22, 2019

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abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010



exploded mummy posted:

On June 9th, they will be running a show at Faneuil Hall Marketplace

https://twitter.com/beyondwrestling...043988538396679

I'm going to this; spent probably way too much money on a hotel to avoid spending 8 hours on a Megabus in one day, but excited. I kept bitching at Drew to run more Megabus-able shows on Twitter, and he did it, and now I feel obliged to take the long trek up from NYC (which I really thought was an hour shorter when I was complaining, but oh well). Gonna go to a museum or the Pride parade or something Saturday and see Boston Common and poo poo Sunday morning, I reckon.

NienNunb posted:

If you regularly watch Progress (which isnít an indie) you are a bad person.

I dunno, I don't think supporting a fed-linked indie is inherently that awful at this point. Of course, the only decent indie that runs NYC is Evolve, so I sort of had to make my peace with it (and I certainly feel better supporting them than, like, ROH).

Also RevPro seems to totally rule, though I guess their TV show wasn't very good. Hope they're doing alright, I know the NJPW shows sell out and the Cockpit shows I've been to were a blast. I wonder if they helped bring El Phantasmo to NJPW?

abraham linksys fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Mar 22, 2019

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