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I thought this thread would be for discussing Isaac Asimovs classic novel Foundation and Empire. I'm really quite disappointed
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Mar 24, 2019 14:05
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I finished a psycho history degree and now I'm employed at Starbucks. I can tell you all about famous psychos from history though!!
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Mar 24, 2019 14:09
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Captain Beans posted:How far did everyone get the Foundation series before they felt like it ran out of steam? I love Asimov but I felt like it really fell off after book 1. I read the whole series and each book was excellent in its own way.
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Mar 24, 2019 14:09
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Got to the end of book 3 and haven’t gotten around to the rest yet.
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Mar 24, 2019 14:21
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Colonel Cancer posted:I finished a psycho history degree and now I'm employed at Starbucks. I can tell you all about famous psychos from history though!! I double majored in history and psychology because of the Foundation series. they never taught me psycohistory 
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Mar 24, 2019 14:24
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Applewhite posted:I read the whole series and each book was excellent in its own way. i liked the one at the end where he crosses over with his Robot series of books
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Mar 24, 2019 14:26
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The worst part of foundation is that every single character talks like Issac Asimov
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Mar 24, 2019 14:33
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Offworld Trading Company is a good sequel to Mule.
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Mar 24, 2019 16:04
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If you’ve never seen it, Maria Full of Grace is a very good movie about drug mules. I highly recommend.
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Mar 24, 2019 16:25
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1redflag posted:If you’ve never seen it, Maria Full of Grace is a very good movie about drug mules. I highly recommend. Agreed but hoo boy this movie is sad as gently caress. The best Clint Eastwood movie was Any Which Way But Loose, which costars an orangutan and has Eastwood do a duet with Ray Charles on the soundtrack titled “Beers to You”
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Mar 24, 2019 16:33
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Captain Beans posted:How far did everyone get the Foundation series before they felt like it ran out of steam? I love Asimov but I felt like it really fell off after book 1. I finished it, but the last two were written when he had entered the scifi writer's final life stage (sex-weird) and were kind of hard to get through. Still better than late Heinlein which is like 100% a thin veneer of story on top of an explanation why having sex with your daughter is ok.
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Mar 24, 2019 16:34
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There was a newish (I think)sci-fi book I read a few years ago that I enjoyed, but forgot the name and author. It was about 2 human space civilizations colliding after diverging centuries ago. One was like the space Chinese mixed with silicon valley that had super computer and software tech. The others were like space Russians who had come across a plague they harnessed that turned survivors into autistic savants, which they used to overcome technical solutions with human brain processes stations of slave geniuses who didn't mind being slaves. It reminded me of the tech companies whose 'algorithms' were really just sending images overseas to be reviewed by someone in Nigeria for $0.50 an hour. Anyone know the name of that book?
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Mar 24, 2019 16:42
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No idea about that one but since we are already veering off topic, I've recently gone through Red Mars trilogy audiobooks by Kim Robertson. While towards the end they kinda enter the sex weird territory, it's a pretty fun read about how early martian settlers develop into matriarchical communal anarchists with very long and dry treaties about specifics of terra forming, political ideologies and philosophy in between all the action.
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Mar 24, 2019 16:56
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1redflag posted:If you’ve never seen it, Maria Full of Grace is a very good movie about drug mules. I highly recommend. Do I get to see a 90 year old man get his dick wet?
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Mar 24, 2019 17:25
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Mar 24, 2019 17:31
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Pham Nuwen posted:I finished it, but the last two were written when he had entered the scifi writer's final life stage (sex-weird) and were kind of hard to get through. Still better than late Heinlein which is like 100% a thin veneer of story on top of an explanation why having sex with your daughter is ok. there was always a bit of that in Asimovs stuff. one of the Robot series books features a woman who regularly has sex with her own father. she insists this is fine and not bad because their weird spacer culture doesn't have the concept of parents and everyone is raised by the state
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Mar 24, 2019 17:39
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In the third one, I think (the second one they go off Earth in), there's a passage about how it's totally normal on the planet they visit for a child to have their first sexual experience with a parent. It's probably just a means of emphasising how alien the society has become.
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Mar 24, 2019 17:50
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Captain Beans posted:How far did everyone get the Foundation series before they felt like it ran out of steam? I love Asimov but I felt like it really fell off after book 1. Got through the original trilogy. The first book is definitely is the best of the three, though I did enjoy the other two. The discovery of the Second Foundation was a satisfying payoff and I'm not sure if want to read the rest of the series given Asimov really didn't want to do them.
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Mar 24, 2019 17:57
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Psychohistory could have predicted that this thread is about some trash and not nerd books i like
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Mar 24, 2019 18:04
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Takis posted:Psychohistory could have predicted that this thread is about some trash and not nerd books i like No it couldn't have because psychohistory is only accurate when applied to large populations of people. The actions of a single person or a small group can't be accurately predicted which is why the Mule was able to disrupt Seldon's plan and why this thread was able to disrupt all our hopes.
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Mar 24, 2019 18:06
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Lowtax's medical bills were a proper Seldon crisis. How many years til the next one?
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Mar 24, 2019 18:21
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I enjoyed reading my dad's old Lensman books when I was ~12. That was a series which was pretty good apart from being built around a massively sexist central concept and ending up with a worryingly pro-incest stance.
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Mar 24, 2019 18:22
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Dean of Swing posted:Offworld Trading Company is a good sequel to Mule. Just a good game in general.
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Mar 24, 2019 18:24
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Icochet posted:Lowtax's medical bills were a proper Seldon crisis. How many years til the next one? He was saved by the secret "Second SA" 
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Mar 24, 2019 18:26
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Rutibex posted:He was saved by the secret "Second SA" Skullmund?
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Mar 24, 2019 18:33
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Activate the SomethingSensitive protocol
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Mar 24, 2019 19:56
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Pham Nuwen posted:I finished it, but the last two were written when he had entered the scifi writer's final life stage (sex-weird) and were kind of hard to get through. Still better than late Heinlein which is like 100% a thin veneer of story on top of an explanation why having sex with your daughter is ok. It's funny how that works. Asimov alway had a hint or a little bit of a stream of odd sex stuff running through his novels, but I think it was the Foundation novel when they were looking for Earth and the Gaia chick was with them, that it became really apparent. I think it was the same novel where they went to the topless Asian planet where it was imperative that the reader knows what their nipples looked like. Then again Asimov was a literal sex-offender who would grope anything that came near him. It got so bad that any women going in for a photo-op were warned that they were going to get groped if they followed through with it. Nothing took such a left turn as the Ringworld series. Larry Niven went from hard science in the first novel to a hard dick in the second. 90% of the book was talking about inter-species sex.
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Mar 24, 2019 20:32
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luchajones posted:This is the real life mule So that's what happens if you just let your nose and ear hair go forever
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Mar 24, 2019 20:35
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So does Clint manage to get it up in this movie?
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Mar 24, 2019 20:44
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Titanides come in two sexes, male and female. Both sexes have a rear vagina and uterus, and a large penis in the position where a horse's penis would be. Both sexes also possess humanoid breasts and can thus give birth to and suckle young. Male Titanides have a frontal penis analogous to a human penis, and female Titanides have a frontal vagina. While sexual intercourse using the horse organs is indulged in casually between individuals of all sexes, so-called frontal intercourse is reserved for intimate relationships. The product of frontal intercourse is always a small, spherical egg a few centimetres in diameter. These eggs are often kept as keepsakes or mementos of special occasions. They are sterile unless first treated with the Wizard's saliva. An egg which has been made fertile can be implanted in a rear vagina and "quickened" by rear intercourse. After that, the egg will develop into a young Titanide. All Titanides can have eggs implanted. The Titanide who receives the egg is called the "hindmother". The Titanide who quickens the egg is called the "hindfather". The Titanides whose original act of intercourse produced the egg are the "foremother" and "forefather". There is special case: a female Titanide may use semen from her ventral penis to produce an egg, transferring it by hand. If the egg is made fertile, she may then implant it in herself and quicken it with the same source of semen. The resulting offspring is a clone of the mother. Semen from the ventral penis can only produce an egg in the same individual who produces the semen. This is the so-called "Aeolian Solo" method of reproduction. The naming of the different modes of reproduction is arbitrary but follows a logical scheme. Aeolian modes have all female participants, and one female is both "foremother" and "forefather". Lydian modes consist of one female and up to three males. Mixolydian modes have two females, and one or two males. Phrygian modes, of which there is only one, have three females and one male. Various prefixes and modifiers are used as well. If the foremother in a Lydian or Mixolydian mode produces the egg using her own ventral sperm, the prefix hypo- is applied. If the hindmother is also the hindfather in a Lydian or Mixolydian mode, the prefix locri- is applied. The unmodified mode name is used when the foremother is also the hindmother. When another participant is the hindmother, the modifier Sharped is applied. More complex combinations have modifiers like Double Sharped and Double Flatted.
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Mar 24, 2019 20:46
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What’s the point of having multiple sexes if they all fulfill the same biological roles. NSFW but lol: http://booklikes.com/photo/max/300/0/upload/books/c/2/c297693301fc242accce29bec627cd80.jpg
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Mar 24, 2019 21:09
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Captain Beans posted:There was a newish (I think)sci-fi book I read a few years ago that I enjoyed, but forgot the name and author. It was about 2 human space civilizations colliding after diverging centuries ago. One was like the space Chinese mixed with silicon valley that had super computer and software tech. The others were like space Russians who had come across a plague they harnessed that turned survivors into autistic savants, which they used to overcome technical solutions with human brain processes stations of slave geniuses who didn't mind being slaves. It reminded me of the tech companies whose 'algorithms' were really just sending images overseas to be reviewed by someone in Nigeria for $0.50 an hour. Sounds like A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge. Hyper-capitalist space Chinese traders clashing with virus infused space fascist slavers. And a sentient spider civilization cold war.
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Mar 24, 2019 21:13
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Avynte posted:Sounds like A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge. Hyper-capitalist space Chinese traders clashing with virus infused space fascist slavers. And a sentient spider civilization cold war. Yep, that's it. Excellent book. A Fire Upon the Deep was good too but Deepness was better. See also: my forums user name
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Mar 24, 2019 21:38
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I read the Foundation books about 15 years ago in high school, and they didn't make much of an impression at the time, maybe I should give them another shot now that I'm older. I also remember watching a Clint Eastwood movie around the same time and thinking that he was too old to be banging young blondes. Jesus christ, how does he even do it now.
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Mar 24, 2019 21:56
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Movie magic
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Mar 24, 2019 22:01
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Avynte posted:Sounds like A Deepness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge. Hyper-capitalist space Chinese traders clashing with virus infused space fascist slavers. And a sentient spider civilization cold war. ah yes that’s it! I forgot about everything going on down on the planet.
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Mar 24, 2019 22:21
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I don't think I even finished the fourth Foundation book, or if I did I just forgot most of it. It's good to remember that the first three books were basically collections of short stories written in like the 40s, and the rest were written like 30-40 years later. The first three books are good although I feel like the second and third don't hold up as well to re-reads.
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Mar 25, 2019 00:01
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Can you imagine like 2 generations from now and Ben Affleck is still making movies and loving ladies on screen for some reason and people are like "Ahh, another good movie from Mr. Affleck, what a great director"
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Mar 25, 2019 00:04
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The Moon Monster posted:Thought this was gonna be about the Foundation series. This is what I was thinking.
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Mar 25, 2019 00:10
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It's cool how many Asimov fans there are here.
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