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ALL TIMES EASTERN Saturday Apollos @ Express - 2PM (B/R Live) Fleet @ Stallions - 8PM (NFL Network) Sunday Legends @ Iron - 4PM (CBS Sports Network) Hotshots @ Commanders - 8PM (NFL Network)
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# ? Apr 24, 2024 15:00 |
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Week 8 and no teams have been eliminated from the playoffs I'm all aboard the Memphis Express
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 02:49 |
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Your team hasn't clinched a playoff spot? Can't relate.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 02:57 |
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wandler20 posted:Your team hasn't clinched a playoff spot? Can't relate. The western conference is just more competitive than the trash eastern conference.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 04:42 |
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What other pro athlete has been given as many chances on as many stages and has thenceforth hosed up as often as Johnny Football
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 04:56 |
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sweet thursday posted:What other pro athlete has been given as many chances on as many stages and has thenceforth hosed up as often as Johnny Football Josh Gordon
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 05:20 |
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Arizona comin for that number 1 spot! GO SHOTS BITCHES That Atlanta point diff...
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 05:28 |
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Nervous posted:The western conference is just more competitive than the trash eastern conference. Don't lie to yourself.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 15:24 |
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time for another survival crisis? https://twitter.com/usatodaysports/status/1110939818278748161 quote:"If the players union is not going to give us young players, we can't be a development league," said Dundon, who invested $250 million into the league in February. "We are looking at our options, one of which is discontinuing the league."
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 17:46 |
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Arizona Hotshots will go down in the history books as the one and only world champion of the AAF.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 17:48 |
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Aye Doc posted:time for another survival crisis? This doesn't make sense. How much can their ability to secure practice-squad caliber players possibly affect the bottom line?
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 18:32 |
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quote:"One thing on the $250 million -- that's enough to run this league for a long time. What it takes to invest and build, that will get us through for many years. Someone was mentioning to me earlier, they thought I had to go and pay $250 million because they'd spent it. They have not spent that kind of money. And we're good for many years to come with what I just did." Tom Dundon, February 19th. quote:“We are looking at our options, [...]discontinuing the league.” Tom Dundon, March 27th.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 18:58 |
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250 million doesn't seem like all that much for a sports league operating budget but I did think it would last out the season. They should've been prepared for a few years of expenses before starting to profit. Maybe he's just trying to secure more funding or get that deal done faster? Is the idea that the nfl will pay players while they play in the AAF?
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 19:17 |
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Play posted:Is the idea that the nfl will pay players while they play in the AAF? I'm thinking union members (which is anyone playing in the NFL) working in another league is a violation of the CBA between the NFL and the union. There's no economic reason to not allow practice squad guys to make more money playing in the AAF otherwise. So rather than going over a barrel and renegotiating the CBA which would be a massively NFL-friendly contract, it's easier for the union to refuse access and let the AAF die on the vine.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 19:43 |
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I'm sure the NFLPA will immediately jump at the chance to have its members play in a league that has almost gone out of business twice in eight weeks.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 19:53 |
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pyrotek posted:I'm sure the NFLPA will immediately jump at the chance to have its members play in a league that has almost gone out of business twice in eight weeks. It's weird because it seems a lot like a hard-ball tactic to force the NFLPA to negotiate but... the AAF has absolutely no leverage. None.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 20:10 |
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Play posted:the AAF has absolutely no leverage. None.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 20:35 |
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I'm surprised no players from the AAF have signed with the NFL. I wonder if any will after the season, you'd think some guys would get a chance.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 21:33 |
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wandler20 posted:I'm surprised no players from the AAF have signed with the NFL. I wonder if any will after the season, you'd think some guys would get a chance. If that happens it will all happen sporadically throughout the season and some guys might get called up to practice squads or called in as camp bodies at the very least. But none of that will happen until after the draft
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 21:43 |
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Play posted:If that happens it will all happen sporadically throughout the season and some guys might get called up to practice squads or called in as camp bodies at the very least. But none of that will happen until after the draft Also means a team is going to have to drop someone to make room for the aaf dude. Has anyone really shown out that much in the aaf? Feel like the feeder league notion was always a pipe dream...
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 21:46 |
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The feeder league to the pros idea also works better with undrafted free agents to work with as opposed to washouts like Manziel and Hackenberg.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 22:48 |
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weird Asian candy posted:Arizona comin for that number 1 spot! Like a Phoenix they rise....
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 23:34 |
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weird Asian candy posted:Also means a team is going to have to drop someone to make room for the aaf dude. Has anyone really shown out that much in the aaf? Feel like the feeder league notion was always a pipe dream... Some guys certainly aren't cut out for it but the scenario would be a young player who didn't get enough looks in the draft process (or got released during camp before they even had a chance to prove themselves) and then goes and shows out (really shows out, you gotta make the other AAF players look like you're too good to be in their league). It's a legitimate problem in the NFL that there aren't enough reps available for a lot of promising young players, and a lot of guys never even really get a chance to show what they can do. That being said, the majority of players in the AAF probably belong there and that's just fine
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 23:37 |
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MakaVillian posted:Like a Phoenix they rise.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4C75F4O4BU
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 23:38 |
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Play posted:Some guys certainly aren't cut out for it but the scenario would be a young player who didn't get enough looks in the draft process (or got released during camp before they even had a chance to prove themselves) and then goes and shows out (really shows out, you gotta make the other AAF players look like you're too good to be in their league). It's a legitimate problem in the NFL that there aren't enough reps available for a lot of promising young players, and a lot of guys never even really get a chance to show what they can do. Yeah. I feel like the answer there is expanding roster sizes, buuuuuuuuuuuuut that will never happen.
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# ? Mar 27, 2019 23:39 |
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Play posted:It's weird because it seems a lot like a hard-ball tactic to force the NFLPA to negotiate but... the AAF has absolutely no leverage. None. This is the MoviePass of sports leagues. They have absolutely no leverage and there's absolutely no reason for the theaters/NFL to cooperate with them but they'll continue to insist they should...because???
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 02:39 |
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I honestly thought the nfl was going to help it a little but alas here we are.
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 02:40 |
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One could say the AAF had....no chance in hell
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 02:45 |
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They should sell the teams/intellectual property to Vince - maybe he'll keep a few of the teams alive
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 02:50 |
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Amy Pole Her posted:I honestly thought the nfl was going to help it a little but alas here we are. Doesn't this seem more like an NFLPA issue and not an NFL issue? The NFL seems on board with the whole thing, promoting it and putting it on NFLN.
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 03:14 |
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I doubt there's very much risk of the AAF folding, I think this is likely just a weird negotiating tactic https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/1110945866322509824 Play posted:It's weird because it seems a lot like a hard-ball tactic to force the NFLPA to negotiate but... the AAF has absolutely no leverage. None. it's possible that Tom Dundon is not good at negotiating
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 03:17 |
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If there was ever a death blow, it's this guy tweeting this.
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 03:23 |
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Rastor posted:I doubt there's very much risk of the AAF folding, I think this is likely just a weird negotiating tactic what's there to negotiate? why would the nfl do anything to accommodate a league full of players that couldn't make the league in the first place?
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 11:22 |
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The logic (thin as it is) is not about the players that failed out, it's about the players that just needed some development time in the feeder league But the NFL is probably perfectly content with their NCAA feeder system
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 12:25 |
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Rastor posted:
With the quality of olineman they're putting out there they shouldn't be, especially with how they want to protect the QB.
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 14:50 |
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Rastor posted:I doubt there's very much risk of the AAF folding, I think this is likely just a weird negotiating tactic https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/27/aaf-may-not-make-it-beyond-this-weekend/
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 14:55 |
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Rastor posted:it's possible that Tom Dundon is not good at negotiating "If the investor sincerely believed the product was done by or right after this weekend, he'd stop being an investor in the product" is a good rule of thumb anytime you hear public comments from investors Doesn't at all mean this thing is surviving, just that they're by no means the most believable source available on it. And yeah you can say "neither is Allbright" but neither is Florio
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 15:15 |
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I dont think you say you're willing to invest 250M (over time or immediately? Not sure the terms, but regardless) without taking a good look at the books and not being able to realize it may fold within a month
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 15:26 |
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The Big Jesus posted:I dont think you say you're willing to invest 250M (over time or immediately? Not sure the terms, but regardless) without taking a good look at the books and not being able to realize it may fold within a month
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# ? Mar 28, 2019 15:33 |
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Big Beef City posted:https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/27/aaf-may-not-make-it-beyond-this-weekend/ quote:The NFL is willing to allow players who sign “futures” contracts after the conclusion of a given season to play in the AAF. The NFL Players Association has not yet agreed to the terms of what would amount to a modification of the labor deal between the NFL and the players’ union. So I think I more or less got this one yesterday - Dundon's business model is basically a seven-figure bet that the union will either 1 - violate their CBA and risk a NFL lockout or 2 - bend over and let the NFL owners gently caress them raw in return for a fast CBA modification, so he gets the AAF the talent infusion needed to field a better product and increase ratings to a point where the AAF is stable and making lots of money. If he wins he owns a multi-billion dollar sports league, if he loses he's out a few million to make a few weeks of payroll. Must be nice to just throw away money like that. dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Mar 28, 2019 |
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