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Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
I go to the air and space museum a lot when I’m in dc. I’m a nerd.

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Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Burt Sexual posted:

I go to the air and space museum a lot when I’m in dc. I’m a nerd.

Is it more embarrassing to admit this to us or admit your modship here to them I wonder

Jk, ofc




It's obvious which you should be more embarrassed by

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo
I feel like this thread is bait for me.

Here's a couple crossposts about when I worked on B-1s. Enjoy!

Julius CSAR posted:

before I get into this: YES I had a security clearance, YES I worked with classified materials everyday, NO I WILL NOT BE REVEALING ANYTHING CLASSIFIED IN THIS POST.

Also, I was a technician, not a pilot. I know the feel of the aircraft from a ride I took in the sim which I wrote about a couple of pages back

The B-1, has a very large bag of expensive, electronic tricks. And honestly, just the "on/off" is actually more or less true since the system (AN/ALQ-161A) was the first fully automatic and fully integrated RX/PrX/TX system in the world. It's also a huge rear end pain to fix.

Some of the stuff it can do (that I'm allowed to talk about)

-Jet has what is known as a Tail Warning Function, or TWF (pronounced twiff). It's a pulse doppler set installed in the upper tail cone, known as the Stinger, the part that's at the same height as the horizontal stab. It is designed to detect, classify and defeat threats from the rear of the aircraft with no crew input. It does this by answering a set of questions about the hostile contact.
Is the contact traveling faster than mach 3? Then it's a missile. If not, then it's an interceptor.
If it's a missile, was the aircraft range gated, or interrogated by a continuous wave signal? If so, it's classified as RADAR guided and it is jammed and chaff dispensed.
If there was no lock-on, the missile is determined to be heat seeking and flares are dispensed.
If the threat is determined to be an interceptor it will jam, spoof, and deceive the aircraft's radar set.

-As the B-1 was originally designed as a low altitude penetrator, it has one of the most unique jamming capabilities I've ever heard of. Called "Terrain Bounce Jamming" it has antennas on the bottom of the aircraft that transmit a strong signal either down and forward, or down and aft, which causes the signal to "bounce" off the ground and then back into the air forward or aft of the jet, creating a funnel of RF energy that captures enemy missiles and draws them down to detonate in the dirt either in front, or in back of the jet. Seriously radical.

-There is another system on the aircraft that plays with missile lock-ons directly, but unfortunately that is as much as I can say about that system. Which sucks, because it is very, very cool.

-Aside from those things, it will everything do that most jamming systems will do. It can paint false targets, such as spoofing a radar into thinking there is more than one aircraft all moving in different directions. It can also spoof a radar by taking the signal from a hostile emitter, slightly phase shift it, then re-transmit the signal back to the source on a different timing, but at a power level at just above the original strength. Spoofing the radar into thinking it's a genuine return, but since it's been phase shifted the return on the screen shows the aircraft moving either slower or faster than it really is, causing the missile crew to fire at an area of empty sky.
And of course, it can do straight on noise/barrage jamming. But that is much more of a sledgehammer technique and not favored by flight crews.
The jet can do ALL of that, to defend it self, and other jets, AND it will record all of that data and store it. So the B-1 can (more or less) do everything that an RC-135 can do, plus go supersonic, plus actually defeat emitters, plus drop iron on dudes. And the offensive avionics system (nav/attack) radar set even has an Air-To-Air mode, the jet just lacks AMRAAM functionality.

-A couple of final cool things.
The aircraft uses the AN/ALE-50 Towed Decoy System that is used also by F/A-18's and F-16's. It spits out a small missile shaped object that trails behind the aircraft at a certain distance, and spits out RF signals to bait missiles. Very much like the Navy's NIXIE towed torpedo decoy if you're familiar with that.

One frequency band in the aircraft has all the circuit breakers pulled and collared because if you transmit in that frequency it will, every time, burn out every part in that frequency chain.

And lastly, one of my favorite things. The jet actually has an honest to god "OH poo poo" switch. Technical term is "EMERGENCY MODE" and allows the aircraft to continue to defend itself, even with the DSO incapacitated. When you turn it on (and you can't turn it off to my knowledge) it will broadcast the highest jamming signal possible across all frequency ranges and all jamming techniques until either a)the jet is destroyed by enemy action or b)all the transmitters and frequency source amps burn themselves out.

And of course, what post like this would be complete without PICTURES

B-1 aft crew stations. Defensive Systems Station on the left, Offensive Systems Station on the right. Big computer keyboard set with red light bars is the aircraft's built in test and self troubleshooting display. It doesn't work lol.


A quick look at what you might see displayed on the DSO's two main screens. In this image the Tactical Situation Format is on the left, and Panoramic Situation Format on the right. Though in practice these screens are typically reversed.


The standard USAF "Weapons Load" picture except with all the ECM parts


A kinda/sorta ok description of where all those various parts go. Many parts are located in extremely difficult to access locations. Transmitters are mounted face down and typically weigh about 200-250 pounds. In order to change one of them you open a swingdown panel and have three people manually haul down a part that is about two feet above your head without dying. It's also the most common task for a B-1 ECM guy.


A REALLY excellent look at one of the jet's wing glove panels. They are made out of a similar material to the reddish-brown radiating elements of the transmit antennas you can see. This is the aft wing glove, the forward panel is removed. To open or close these things takes about an hour each way as there are about a billion fasteners (because the jet is supersonic, you see) and as the aircraft flies the panels become warped and shaped to each specific aircraft in the fleet. And yes, I do KNOW both the gentlemen in this image


"The sweetest rear end in aviation" Here you can see an aircraft in the hangar at Ellsworth AFB where ECM does their End 2 End checks. The blisters on the sides of the airframe are the towed decoy dispensers. The big red barrel on the green stand in the background is what we call a "hat" It's a big barrel filled Radar Absorbent Material that you place over the parts of the airframe where the antennas radiate to catch the RF so you don't radiate yourself (which loving sucks, trust me) when you turn the jamming system on inside a building. Funny story my first supervisor actually ran the system by himself in a hangar with no hats on the elements and when he shutdown the hangar floor was covered in dead pigeons and sparrows. We would sometimes warm up water for coffee or pop bags of popcorn inside the hats during tests. The cables and hoses near the nose are there provide cooling air, electricity, and liquid coolant, as well as a MIL-STD-1553 Data Bus line to isolate the system to our testing equipment.


Oh yeah, and ME! Here on the stab after changing out a TWF receiver/processor



exercises are treated as real world you just yell "EXERCISE EXERCISE EXERCISE" before you do anything. Whenever we turned the system on (this was multiple times per day) and we had aircraft visiting from other bases, like CF-188's from Canada we would wait till they were on take off roll and hook their radar emitter and uncage the transmitters to jam their radar on take off.


Julius CSAR posted:

Ok, finally got a chance to get a real keyboard, so it's Lancer Sim Story Time. Now I have to say, I have a bit of trepidation telling this story because parts can kind of sound like "aviation_stdh.txt", but I assure this is a real thing that really happened.

Bit of background first. As I stated before I grew up flying, mostly Luscombes and other taildraggers. I enlisted in the Air Force in Jan. 2006 and was a 2A553C, which means I was Electronic Warfare Systems Specialist. Specifically on equipment (ie on aircraft, not in a backshop) maintenance. I was assigned to the 34th Bomb Squadron of the 28th Bomb Wing at Ellsworth AFB. It's the 4th oldest squadron in the Air Force, having been formed in 1917 and has been active for all 101 years. Our sister squadron, the 37th, and us formed the majority of aircraft and aircrew for the Doolittle Raid over Tokyo.

Now, maintainers and aircrew sometimes don't get along, and sometimes they are extremely close. Usually this has to do with how much exposure they get to each other. Luckily, as a bomber unit, there is a strong team mentality to everything we do, as it's crews of people from the four guys flying the jet to the four guys shooting radio waves at the antennas on the outside for an ECM end to end check. We had been getting along ok, but then sometime in 2009-2010 the 34th got a new squadron commander. This guy came from an F-16 unit where MX and aircrew were very tight and wanted to impart that kind of culture to us. It's really a great thing, mainly because pilots are more willing to trust us to fix something rather than trying to fiddle with it (and usually breaking it) in the air.

This guy decided that one of the best ways to increase that rapport was to have MX have a go at flying the jet. Fam flights in B-1's are very rare due to some early crashes with six crew members on board, but flying the sim doesn't really cost anything. SO one day on the truck we get a radio call asking for a volunteer to go do this. I threw my hand up about as fast as I could and got a slot. So that Thursday I report to the Ops desk and meet the new 2nd LT who got tasked with showing us around. I was with a crew-chief, a weapons loader, and a jet engine mechanic. The first stop was the air crew locker room where we got to check out all their flight gear, helmets o2 masks, that sort of thing. I probably could have stayed all day but the sim beckoned.

We went over to the sim building and during the walk I was able to more or less corner the LT and let him know I had been around the block a couple times with regards to flying airplanes. Pilots being pilots talking about flying, I couldn't get the dude to shut up lol. We got to the sim room and saw that there were actually two sim cabs, one for the front of the jet, and one for the backseaters that mirror each others movements. I didn't get a chance to check the backseat stuff but that was kind of my office anyway and wasn't too upset since I spent plenty of time in that seat.

The pilot tells us we all get a chance to fly and land, and the other three maintainers would also get a take off, I would not be getting a take off as he had "something special in mind" for me. I chose to fly last and let everyone else go ahead to see what the pilot did and how he flew the jet. We didn't get movement on the cab though, since there were like six people just standing around inside. My first taste of stick time was when the pilot had to leave to get a software engineer to lower the fuel state of the aircraft so everyone could get a chance to land (as it was, the jet was too heavy) he handed the aircraft off to me fly around while he was gone. He was a bit upset when he came back and I had placed the aircraft from 10,000' down to about 300' had swept the wings back, and running about mach .91, but I mean, all he said was "fly the jet" and poo poo this is a B-1 we're talking about!

So, eventually it's my turn. We started in the air and he had me low level to the deck while he swept the wings back. He said he was going to teach me "notches and jinks" which was a surprise to me since I didn't realize a jink was a specific maneuver. I can't remember how a jink worked, but I'll never forget how to do a notch. A B-1 notch is a bit different than a fighter notch, it involves a 60 degree roll then a 2.5g climb, then roll back and descent to the deck. After showing me this a couple of times we just flying and talking when out of the blue the pilot just yells "THUNDER FOUR-ONE, AAA LEFT ONE O'CLOCK, NOTCH RIGHT!" and I executed a textbook notch to defeat the threat. He said something to the effect of "I guess I'm probably not going 'get' you with anything, huh?"

Next I learned how to a bomb toss. Which in a B-1 involves the typical sharp climb, but rather than finishing with an immelman and heading 180 degrees from where you threw the bomb, the Bone climbs, rolls inverted, pulls to hard to the deck, and rolls back level. It's a crazy move for a jet that big, but the B-1 is a real dream in the air (on the ground not so much). For those who don't know, the B-1 can perform like a fighter and even has a stick in the middle and throttle on the left like an F-15. Pilot had told me the jet flies smoother than the sim because the sim is a bit jerky.

Last thing on the agenda was my shot at landing. Pilot told me that he would start off the approach then hand it over once he had me on the glideslope. He actually kinda hosed up and handed it off anyway, I was able to get down, but it wasn't pretty and I almost ran out runway. Soooo, he says he'll let me do it again and just shadow me on the controls. He pointed out the ILS controls and the VSD landing helpers and I was like, "Well, there's an AOA indicator up on the windscreen. I'll probably just land visually." He sort of chuckled at this and gave me a "sure thing, kid" kind of look. But before he knew it, I was truly on the glideslope and in the groove. I looked over and his hands were behind his head, and he said "Well, I think you've got it." I touched down smooth. Like, stuck the landing. It felt really, really good. Then I looked over and the pilot shook my hand and actually said, "Yeah, you're pretty poo poo hot, dude." I was overjoyed, simply the best compliment that guy could have given me. First thing I did was call my dad and tell him what I did. I think he was very jealous.

Here's a couple extras. First picture is me standing on the horizontal stab on A/C#86-115



Second picture is me (I'm sitting in the driver's seat of the truck, not the de-ice bucket) helping get aircraft ready for the 2011 Libya operation



Don't taxi behind a B-1 if you're in an F-16 I was standing right next to the guy with the camera when this happened.

Julius CSAR fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Mar 28, 2019

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo


Boeing 767

20 Blunts
Jan 21, 2017

feelix posted:

I don't know anything about that radio stuff but that story is exclusively posted by the worst people on the Internet

The chip on your shoulder towards plane enthusiasts is pretty pathetic dude.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

its all nice on rice posted:

Military uses UHF. Civilians use VHF. That story is stupid.

Military uses HF, VHF, and UHF. The B-1 had antennas for all three, plus SATCOM, GPS, a whole bunch of rolled up maps, etc.

In fact you can't touch the skin of the jet when the HF is on because it uses the whole skin of the aircraft as the HF antenna.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

feelix posted:

I don't know anything about that radio stuff but that story is exclusively posted by the worst people on the Internet

Post your favorite aircraft, ASAP.

Doctor Dogballs
Apr 1, 2007

driving the fuck truck from hand land to pound town without stopping at suction station


flying toilet

Doctor Dogballs
Apr 1, 2007

driving the fuck truck from hand land to pound town without stopping at suction station


a butt that can fly by farting straight down.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Every commercial airliner has this.

Doctor Dogballs posted:

a butt that can fly by farting straight down.

Will goons ever get over fart/poop jokes? It’s been a few years now

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Imagine if a commercial airliner DIDN'T have a toilet and everyone on it had to poop!

Boy THAT would sure be something you could joke about! I wouldn't, personally, but someone could.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Big Beef City posted:

Imagine if a commercial airliner DIDN'T have a toilet and everyone on it had to poop!

Boy THAT would sure be something you could joke about! I wouldn't, personally, but someone could.

Hahaha!

Now post your favorite aircraft with narrative. Maybe make it funny!

Ecstatic Elastic
Oct 30, 2008

She's just spun
I maintained these hogs for like 10 years, ADD EM TO THE LIST!

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
As a Canadian the avro arrow :canada:

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Ecstatic Elastic posted:

I maintained these hogs for like 10 years, ADD EM TO THE LIST!



AWACS were a game changer. Military bullshit aside. I remember when they came out and I was like meh.

Ecstatic Elastic
Oct 30, 2008

She's just spun

Burt Sexual posted:

AWACS were a game changer. Military bullshit aside. I remember when they came out and I was like meh.

I'm not super familiar with the AWACS electronics suite (I'm assuming it's very comperable) but in my experience, the E-2C was/is extremely more capable just due to its ability of being aircraft carrier capable. Eyez in da sky!

King of Bees
Dec 28, 2012
Gravy Boat 2k
I liked the P3 Orion because it has a coffee maker and a rack to have nap on.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo
Here's some of the cool airplanes I've flown, or flown in. Most of these pictures will be of the aircraft type, and not the specific airframe I was in.

When I was ten I got a ride in a Stearman owned by a friend of my dad's. Open cockpit bi-planes are an absolutely the best way to fly! It was stupid loud and very breezy. The term "to loud to think" describes it pretty well. This plane I did't really get hands on, and just rode up front, like a kid in the 20's getting a barnstormer ride :3: I don't have any clue what the tail number was, but the plane looked very similar to this one, but it had a full engine cowling, rather than open air like this one.



My dad used to fly aerobatics back in the 70s and 80s. Mostly in Pitts Specials and Decathlons/Citrabrias. When I was about 14 during a Young Eagles rally he finaggled me a ride in a Pitts S2B. Pretty the most fun I've ever had. Pulled upwards of 6.5-7gs.



At one point we did two loops, and when he came down out of the second one he snap-rolled the plane. A snap-roll is basically a normal aileron roll, except you sorta stall the aircraft halfway through the roll, causing a brief spin that you recover from as you level wings, which "snaps" the nose of the aircraft around the axis. Looks like this, only we did just one roll instead of two.



This is the type of plane I grew up flying with my dad though. It's a Luscombe 8A, which he bought after my mom told him he couldn't fly aerobatics anymore with two kids. She once told me about crashes at aerobatic contests and described them as "Yeah, your dad and I watched a lot guys 'eat the instrument panel' over the years." Like, goddamn mom.



I'll post some more later, but last I want to leave with you a picture of late father, flying the EAA's Ford Tri-Motor up in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. Miss you dad!

Ecstatic Elastic
Oct 30, 2008

She's just spun

King of Bees posted:

I liked the P3 Orion because it has a coffee maker and a rack to have nap on.

:yikes:

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

King of Bees posted:

I liked the P3 Orion because it has a coffee maker and a rack to have nap on.

Gonna need some opsec violation pics.

How long could these thing fly? Forever I’m guessing.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Ecstatic Elastic posted:

I'm not super familiar with the AWACS electronics suite (I'm assuming it's very comperable) but in my experience, the E-2C was/is extremely more capable just due to its ability of being aircraft carrier capable. Eyez in da sky!

The newer E-3's have added a lot of the ELINT stuff that used to be carried by the RJs, there's huge spiral antenna sets up by the nose. But yeah as far as basic AWACS capability the E-2 (espc the D models) are pretty much equals.

What did you maintain on them? I (see above post) did ECM on the Bones. Would be cool to know there's another avionics guy on the forums.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Julius CSAR posted:

The newer E-3's have added a lot of the ELINT stuff that used to be carried by the RJs, there's huge spiral antenna sets up by the nose. But yeah as far as basic AWACS capability the E-2 (espc the D models) are pretty much equals.

What did you maintain on them? I (see above post) did ECM on the Bones. Would be cool to know there's another avionics guy on the forums.

Your posts are very interesting, although needs more poop, thanks!

Isn’t there an aviation thread here? Not chasing this out, mind you.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Burt Sexual posted:

Gonna need some opsec violation pics.

How long could these thing fly? Forever I’m guessing.

Like, on a particular sortie or the airframe? I know they're being replaced by the new P-8 Poseidons. As for their per sortie endurance, wikipedia says about 16 hours which seems right. The don't have A2A fueling capability afaik tho

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Burt Sexual posted:

Your posts are very interesting, although needs more poop, thanks!

Isn’t there an aviation thread here? Not chasing this out, mind you.

I think there's a megathread in AI but none of those people are GBS people so I dunno. Also I think there's an A/T thread for serious questions, but as for a "What's your favorite jet?!" thread, they have historically been GBS threads but it's been quite awhile since we've had one.

I need to back into DCS...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XtH_X-vHJI

If you want poop, here's the LAV drain valve (called a Donut) on a Hawker 800 (BAe.125). That keyholed dust cover is flush with the ground with only about a foot and a half on clearance. You have to stick a key up into the goofy middle hole, unlock it, pull it out then hook up the hose and pull the handle that says "LOCK" to open the inner flap and dump the lav. Problem being that many of the pull handles aren't any good anymore so quite often the inner flap is already open and you get poo poo and piss dumped on your arm. It loving sucks. Not nearly as bad as getting dumped on by a 757, though that hasn't happened to me...yet.

Julius CSAR fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Mar 28, 2019

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Julius CSAR posted:

Like, on a particular sortie or the airframe? I know they're being replaced by the new P-8 Poseidons. As for their per sortie endurance, wikipedia says about 16 hours which seems right. The don't have A2A fueling capability afaik tho

I meant the sortie, like aren’t awacs forever airbound with space for crews and a2a?

If op doesn’t want to talk military planes, that’s cool. They just have a lot of neat stuff, that doesn’t necessarily kill people, just enables it I guess :smith:

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Burt Sexual posted:

Hahaha!

Now post your favorite aircraft with narrative. Maybe make it funny!

In 1928 Amelia Earhart became the first woman to fly across the Atlantic ocean on a Fokker F.VII.
A lot of people might remember that aircraft for other notable expeditionary flights, such as Robert Byrd's trip to the north pole, or its efforts in pioneering mid-air refueling.
Not me though. I don't remember that plane for poo poo. Because it's a piece of garbage that no one cares about.

What I really care about is what else happened in aviation in 1928. Look at this fucker right here:


You see that? That's a Handley Page model 42. Or HP-42 for short. Very original. Well. It's not really that original, the HP stands for Handley-Page and the 42 stands for what model number it was.
Regardless. It could carry just about 35-40 passengers from London to Paris and only stop for fuel probably ONE time the entire way, and often would average speeds of 90 entire MPH due to the fact that it has the same wing surface area as a 767 but weighs 10 times less, something our more distinguished and flight-aware folks in this thread can probably tell you is a really cool, fun, and good design characteristic if you like planes that fly at walking speeds.

So why is this bumbling slow flying crap heap so great for something made probably before your grandparents were born?

Here's why, Burt.

The Handley Page HP 42 was the first airliner successfully implemented with functioning toilets.

Prior to that we'd have to imagine if a commercial airliner DIDN'T have a toilet and everyone on it had to poop!

Boy THAT would sure be something you could joke about! I wouldn't, personally, but someone could.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Julius CSAR posted:

I think there's a megathread in AI but none of those people are GBS people so I dunno. Also I think there's an A/T thread for serious questions, but as for a "What's your favorite jet?!" thread, they have historically been GBS threads but it's been quite awhile since we've had one.

I need to back into DCS...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XtH_X-vHJI

Lol I get enough stress and anxiety from work, family, and modding.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Burt Sexual posted:

I meant the sortie, like aren’t awacs forever airbound with space for crews and a2a?

If op doesn’t want to talk military planes, that’s cool. They just have a lot of neat stuff, that doesn’t necessarily kill people, just enables it I guess :smith:

Ummm, naw. You're probably thinking of the EC-135 Looking Glass and E-6B Mercury TACAMO birds from the cold war that were always airborne as Airborne Launch Control Centers for the ICBMs an SLBMs.

They do have really long endurance though. I do know that there is an E-4B National Emergency Airbone Command Post (NEACP called 'Kneecap') that is always APU or Engines on 24/7 ground alert. Though the military callsign is "Nightwatch". I think in the event of... well you know, that the callsign would still be Nightwatch even if the president is aboard.

Ecstatic Elastic
Oct 30, 2008

She's just spun

Julius CSAR posted:

The newer E-3's have added a lot of the ELINT stuff that used to be carried by the RJs, there's huge spiral antenna sets up by the nose. But yeah as far as basic AWACS capability the E-2 (espc the D models) are pretty much equals.

What did you maintain on them? I (see above post) did ECM on the Bones. Would be cool to know there's another avionics guy on the forums.

I was involved in maintaining whatever the electronics suite called for, typically RADAR, IFF, Link, Comm, and Nav, things like ECM, MATT, JTIDS and whatnot, without getting into specific designations. I got to tour an AWACS when i was in Elmendorf for some training a few years back, good to hear from another avionics guy!

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Ecstatic Elastic posted:

I was involved in maintaining whatever the electronics suite called for, typically RADAR, IFF, Link, Comm, and Nav, things like ECM, MATT, JTIDS and whatnot, without getting into specific designations. I got to tour an AWACS when i was in Elmendorf for some training a few years back, good to hear from another avionics guy!

Hell yeah dude!

No one else will like it, and I know you were a Navy guy, but I think you'll enjoy this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nl9ceXQTQ4o

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Big Beef City posted:

Fuuuuckkk yeah

Wow.....you post....good?

Lol

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Nobody has any love for big rear end cargo haulers?

C-17

Bro do you even lift?

Super Guppy

There's just something adorable about how it shouldn't fly but it does. The name helps.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

FoolyCharged posted:

Nobody has any love for big rear end cargo haulers?

no

Also the absolute worst people to deal with in aviation are cargo pilots.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo
Guppy wing too small :smith:

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo
Like, this is me being personally kind of a poo poo. But whenever I see a thread like this and people are talking about cool or unique aircraft and someone comes in and is like "WHAT ABOUT C-130S OR C-17S DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE JUST LOVE THIS?!" I get like, irrationally pissed off because those aircraft are utterly devoid of anything interesting.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS

Necros posted:

My great great uncle or some poo poo is the one who killed him. Some history nerds are trying to claim it was an Australian AA gun but don’t believe their lies.

Definitely some drunk Aussie with a machine gun killed him not some Canuck

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Julius CSAR posted:

Like, this is me being personally kind of a poo poo. But whenever I see a thread like this and people are talking about cool or unique aircraft and someone comes in and is like "WHAT ABOUT C-130S OR C-17S DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE JUST LOVE THIS?!" I get like, irrationally pissed off because those aircraft are utterly devoid of anything interesting.

Ok, but you at least admit the super guppy is adorable right?

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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Julius CSAR posted:

Like, this is me being personally kind of a poo poo. But whenever I see a thread like this and people are talking about cool or unique aircraft and someone comes in and is like "WHAT ABOUT C-130S OR C-17S DOESN'T ANYONE ELSE JUST LOVE THIS?!" I get like, irrationally pissed off because those aircraft are utterly devoid of anything interesting.

Like, this is me just thinking, but those planes carry huge amounts of weight (my balls or poops if you want to derail), all planes are de facto cool. Sorry.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Kharnifex posted:

Definitely some drunk Aussie with a machine gun killed him not some Canuck

Yeah, it was .303 round from an Aussie MG that did it. Though this is probably a stretch I always liked the idea that he got hit by a dude with a SMLE Battlefield 1 style.

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Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Burt Sexual posted:

Like, this is me just thinking, but those planes carry huge amounts of weight (my balls or poops if you want to derail), all planes are de facto cool. Sorry.

Yeah, like I said. That's a very stupid personal opinion of mine lol.

FoolyCharged posted:

Ok, but you at least admit the super guppy is adorable right?

Sure... but not quite as adorable as a Bowers Fly Baby


Or a Mooney-Mite


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