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This morning the budget airline WOW Air just... abruptly went out of business. They cancelled all flights with no warning or notice, leaving people stranded in airports and foreign countries all over the world. Word at airports is that the crew members are going home, and why not since they're not going to get paid. Makes me nervous because I have a flight in a few months through the parent company and I never considered that they could just shut their doors with no heads up. I know there's people here in airports, please report the chaos you're seeing
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Mar 28, 2019 15:00
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wow!
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Mar 28, 2019 15:01
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935 posted:This morning the budget airline WOW Air just... abruptly went out of business. They cancelled all flights with no warning or notice, leaving people stranded in airports and foreign countries all over the world. Word at airports is that the crew members are going home, and why not since they're not going to get paid. Wow! E: poo poo
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Mar 28, 2019 15:01
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suck it
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Mar 28, 2019 15:02
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I took a flight with them last year for a long trip. I have no idea what I would have done if this happened to me at the airport. I hadn't even considered that this was possible. I guess all I can say is... Wow. e: drat
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Mar 28, 2019 15:02
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935 posted:please report the chaos you're seeing This is just a little foreshock
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Mar 28, 2019 15:02
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Maybe don’t be so cheap in the future, morans. 
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Mar 28, 2019 15:03
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Air travel is dumb and wasteful and destroying the environment and shouldn't be cheaply available to civilians for non-essential use. Change my mind.
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Mar 28, 2019 15:05
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frumpykvetchbot posted:Air travel is dumb and destroying the environment and shouldn't be cheap and available to civilians for non-essential use. Change my mind. Not going to, because 
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Mar 28, 2019 15:09
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Article for those interested: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/business/live-news/wow-air-shuts-down/index.html
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Mar 28, 2019 15:10
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It was sudden, but not really at the same time. WOW has been circling the drain for at least the last 12 months if not longer.
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Mar 28, 2019 15:11
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Disappointed this isn't about the video game.
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Mar 28, 2019 15:21
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This happened to some Hungarian airline like a week after I had flown with them. No word on if it was my fault but I'm guessing "yes". Another time a flight got cancelled when I was visiting my gf. Dunno if you've ever been in the situation that you have to go away from someone and you're sad and poo poo, then at the last minute it's like "SURPRISE! You get a few more days together", but it kinda owns 
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Mar 28, 2019 15:24
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frumpykvetchbot posted:Air travel is dumb and wasteful and destroying the environment and shouldn't be cheaply available to civilians for non-essential use. Change my mind. Did you know flying gets you somewhere fast? What would be a 12+ hour drive, is a 2 hour plane ride. It’s actually pretty convenient.
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Mar 28, 2019 15:28
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frumpykvetchbot posted:Air travel is dumb and wasteful and destroying the environment and shouldn't be cheaply available to civilians for non-essential use. Change my mind. Impeding its use would cause considerable financial distress across the globe among many, many industries affecting millions of peoples livelihoods and lead to economic, social, political instability, and worse. The infrastructure to replace it via other methods of transport or eliminate the need for travel does not exist and cannot be afforded to be implemented at this time and curtailing or suddenly stopping one of the largest means of mass transport on Earth would lead to immediate and immense chaos without incredible foresight and long term planning for its replacement, compounding the instability and disaster I mentioned above. Entire global markets and economies would shift, and not for the better, and this would trickle down to almost every person on earth, negatively affecting them for an untold foreseeable future and cause incredible and unneeded hardship and humanitarian issues. Other than that tho good plan.
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Mar 28, 2019 15:31
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Are they still going to make popcorn?
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Mar 28, 2019 15:33
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Mar 28, 2019 15:40
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That isn't an argument against developing viable alternatives to air travel
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Mar 28, 2019 15:47
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The Fuzzy Hulk posted:Are they still going to make popcorn? 
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Mar 28, 2019 15:49
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frumpykvetchbot posted:Air travel is dumb and wasteful and destroying the environment and shouldn't be cheaply available to civilians for non-essential use. Change my mind. What would constitute essential use?
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Mar 28, 2019 15:51
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Big Beef City posted:Impeding its use would cause considerable financial distress across the globe among many, many industries affecting millions of peoples livelihoods and lead to economic, social, political instability, and worse. Oh no companies wouldnt be able to take their foreign wealthy investers/clients to seedy strip clubs and expensive golf courses in a timely manner anymore world would end
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Mar 28, 2019 15:51
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pile of brown posted:That isn't an argument against developing viable alternatives to air travel What are the viable alternatives?
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Mar 28, 2019 15:52
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Fallows posted:Oh no companies wouldnt be able to take their foreign wealthy investers/clients to seedy strip clubs and expensive golf courses in a timely manner anymore world would end hmm gonna go ahead and say that's not what the post you responded to said at all
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Mar 28, 2019 15:53
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What industries rely on airline travel
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Mar 28, 2019 15:53
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That would suck bad to be stuck because the company just phoned it in, drat
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Mar 28, 2019 15:55
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Rad-daddio posted:What are the viable alternatives? In the US at least, high-speed rail infrastructure. It shouldn't take 26 hours to get from Detroit to North Carolina by train but here we are I hate flying and if you told me I could hop on a bullet train and do NYC to LA in <12 hours I'd never fly domestically again.
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Mar 28, 2019 15:55
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Fallows posted:What industries rely on airline travel Literally any international shipping that needs to get across the ocean in less than 3 weeks?
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Mar 28, 2019 15:56
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Rad-daddio posted:What are the viable alternatives? Teleportation. Get cracking, egghead scientists! And don't make it another Star Trek "kill you and build a copy" teleporter I swear to god 
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Mar 28, 2019 15:56
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Snow Cone Capone posted:In the US at least, high-speed rail infrastructure. It shouldn't take 26 hours to get from Detroit to North Carolina by train but here we are Same, but instead of viable and maintained infrastructure we have Amtrak.
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Mar 28, 2019 15:57
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pile of brown posted:That isn't an argument against developing viable alternatives to air travel This would be a really neat thing to say had I mentioned anywhere in my post that we shouldn't try to adapt for the future.
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Mar 28, 2019 15:58
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Literally any international shipping that needs to get across the ocean in less than 3 weeks? Shipping isnt the same thing as traveling
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Mar 28, 2019 15:58
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Same, but instead of viable and maintained infrastructure we have Amtrak. The worst part about Amtrak is that 99% of the team it somehow ends up being more expensive than taking a flight, unless you're booking at the very last second (I guess the Amtrak ticket prices don't fluctuate) Fallows posted:Shipping isnt the same thing as traveling lol ok -Specialized industrial technicians. Often on stuff like wind turbines there are only a handful of people across the globe that can do certain things and it's not feasible to say "hey turbine #4 in Norway is failing, we'll see you in 3 weeks when your boat from California arrives" -Academic conferences. Information-sharing is absolutely essential in a lot of cutting-edge sciences, and trying to coordinate online conferences for the top 200 pediatric oncologists in the world to promote discussion isn't nearly as efficient as renting out a hotel for a few days just a couple off the top of my head
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Mar 28, 2019 16:04
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Snow Cone Capone posted:The worst part about Amtrak is that 99% of the team it somehow ends up being more expensive than taking a flight, unless you're booking at the very last second (I guess the Amtrak ticket prices don't fluctuate) Usually you don't buy tickets through Amtrak, you get it way cheaper through something like Wanderu or something like it. Amtrak is a shithole though, and people around here like to sing the praises of working for them because they get to sleep in a truck all day.
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Mar 28, 2019 16:05
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Just ban private passenger jets and make all the rich assholes fly in first class with everyone else, because like almost everything else with potentially negative ramifications, the people who abuse it the most are the rich elite https://ips-dc.org/report-high-flyers-2017/
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Mar 28, 2019 16:09
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Wrath of the Bitch King posted:Usually you don't buy tickets through Amtrak, you get it way cheaper through something like Wanderu or something like it. ah I didn't know that I've never used a train for anything longer than "big city to immedate suburb." It seems hellish.
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Mar 28, 2019 16:10
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Snow Cone Capone posted:
1) Microsoft HoloLens, just hire a local contractor to send a mechanic up there and strap a VR overlay headset onto him. 2) Skype groupchat
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Mar 28, 2019 16:11
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Snow Cone Capone posted:-Specialized industrial technicians. Often on stuff like wind turbines there are only a handful of people across the globe that can do certain things and it's not feasible to say "hey turbine #4 in Norway is failing, we'll see you in 3 weeks when your boat from California arrives" I find it real hard to believe that there's no one in Europe that could fix it, unless it's because they made it difficult as gently caress to repair so only company technicians can do it and the company makes more money. If that's the case, that's fixable with more guillotines
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Mar 28, 2019 16:15
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935 posted:1) Microsoft HoloLens, just hire a local contractor to send a mechanic up there and strap a VR overlay headset onto him. Snow Cone Capone posted:-Academic conferences. Information-sharing is absolutely essential in a lot of cutting-edge sciences, and trying to coordinate online conferences for the top 200 pediatric oncologists in the world to promote discussion isn't nearly as efficient as renting out a hotel for a few days also just lol at the hololens thing, yes let's get Jimmy the local 401 electrician to hang off the edge of a helicopter and do maintenance on live transmission wires Inept posted:I find it real hard to believe that there's no one in Europe that could fix it, unless it's because they made it difficult as gently caress to repair so only company technicians can do it and the company makes more money. If that's the case, that's fixable with more guillotines for sure, but even with high-speed rail it's still much faster to fly from say, Portugal to Norway, than to take a train/boat. Plus, they are rare but there are some insanely specialized jobs - there's only about a thousand saturation divers in the entire world, for example. Snow Cone Capone fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Mar 28, 2019 |
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Mar 28, 2019 16:16
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Snow Cone Capone posted:also just lol at the hololens thing, yes let's get Jimmy the local 401 electrician to hang off the edge of a helicopter and do maintenance on live transmission wires That way you don't risk the skilled labor.
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Who is winning the online argument so far? Is someone keeping score? My future travel plans are in the balance here, folks!
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