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Captain Hotbutt posted:One thing that I think gets glossed over with the holy-poo poo-everything-is-awesome stuff about the first Matrix movie is that it was one of the very first truly must-have DVDs that got released, right as DVDs and home entertainment systems were starting to blow up and become mega-popular. i went with my dad to the home theater store and they just put it on the lobby scene and let it play and i was like daang
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MY INEVITABLE DEBT posted:i went with my dad to the home theater store and they just put it on the lobby scene and let it play It wasn't even really that long after I saw the movie the first time that I realized how cheap and empty the scene of the lobby exploding was. That part was super bad even for the time. Only stain on the entire film aside from Neo sitting in an empty cubicle at a computer that wasn't even turned on. Dude at least TRY to look like you're working if you don't want to get fired!
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Nail Rat posted:It wasn't even really that long after I saw the movie the first time that I realized how cheap and empty the scene of the lobby exploding was. I love The Matrix, but the paneling lifting up when Trinity does the wallrun in the lobby drives me nuts.
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Apr 7, 2019 03:59
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One of the things that always bothered me about the sequels is that they canonically take place on the same day but the second movie is all about how Neo can't let Trinity die and then 12 hours later its like "whoops" Like, its up there with Aliens to Alien3 in terms of narrative "well, that was pointless"
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Mel Mudkiper posted:One of the things that always bothered me about the sequels is that they canonically take place on the same day but the second movie is all about how Neo can't let Trinity die and then 12 hours later its like "whoops" It also takes her approximately 12 hours to die.
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Alien 3 killing everyone is awesome
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Nail Rat posted:Only stain on the entire film aside from Neo sitting in an empty cubicle at a computer that wasn't even turned on. Dude at least TRY to look like you're working if you don't want to get fired! But that's the whole point, nobody really gives a poo poo about Mr. Anderson's work. God forbid he gets the feeling that he is doing something useful.
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Apr 7, 2019 12:43
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Grendels Dad posted:But that's the whole point, nobody really gives a poo poo about Mr. Anderson's work. God forbid he gets the feeling that he is doing something useful. If you take the work of David Graeber seriously, a whole lot of office jobs are like this. Just sitting at your desk doing gently caress all for a job that actually requires like 15 minutes of work a week. And slowly spiritually dying.
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Apr 7, 2019 13:08
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Hand Knit posted:If you take the work of David Graeber seriously, a whole lot of office jobs are like this. Just sitting at your desk doing gently caress all for a job that actually requires like 15 minutes of work a week. And slowly spiritually dying. This. It really is wonderful how we keep ourselves occupied.
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Captain Hotbutt posted:One thing that I think gets glossed over with the holy-poo poo-everything-is-awesome stuff about the first Matrix movie is that it was one of the very first truly must-have DVDs that got released, right as DVDs and home entertainment systems were starting to blow up and become mega-popular. The big green box set that also includes the Animatrix is great. The special features are all so good.
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Captain Hotbutt posted:One thing that I think gets glossed over with the holy-poo poo-everything-is-awesome stuff about the first Matrix movie is that it was one of the very first truly must-have DVDs that got released, right as DVDs and home entertainment systems were starting to blow up and become mega-popular. The Matrix was so big that they released a dvd with nothing but behind the scenes stuff.
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Apr 7, 2019 16:46
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Alhazred posted:The Matrix was so big that they released a dvd with nothing but behind the scenes stuff. Yeah, I think that's in the big green set. It's a great documentary.
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Apr 7, 2019 18:00
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I actually enjoyed Jupiter Ascending quite a bit, sue me. It has too many parts that drag to be truly great, but like their other stuff it's refreshing in how confident it is in it's operatic silliness. I won't be surprised if it becomes a cult hit later in life.
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Speed racer is a masterpiece of the family genre films. Everytime I redo part of my home theater I watch the last race to test it out. An amazing 30-35 minutes of cinema. I used to tear up every time when he gets the car restarted and the montage starts. It's so stupidly sweet. My only wish at this point is that Emile hirsch wasnt a piece of poo poo so I could like him.
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Hand Knit posted:If you take the work of David Graeber seriously, a whole lot of office jobs are like this. Just sitting at your desk doing gently caress all for a job that actually requires like 15 minutes of work a week. And slowly spiritually dying. Hey dont doxx my worklife
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Apr 7, 2019 19:55
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Honestly Bullshit Jobs would probably be assumed to be an influence for The Matrix had in come out in 1998 instead of 2018. I think it nails not just Anderson’s office life but also the agents and how, as someone earlier mentioned, Agent Smith self-actualizes through sadism.
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The only flaw in the Matrix is that Neo’s boss says “company” twice in the same sentence which sounds really awkward and clunky.
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Hand Knit posted:If you take the work of David Graeber seriously, a whole lot of office jobs are like this. Just sitting at your desk doing gently caress all for a job that actually requires like 15 minutes of work a week. And slowly spiritually dying. I am not familiar with Graeber but I will have to check him out, thank you.
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Cloud Atlas is still one of my favourite movies of all time. It's a genuinely uplifting piece. Fit eme=
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Alhazred posted:The Matrix was so big that they released a dvd with nothing but behind the scenes stuff. I've got this one. Don't have any of the trilogy but I somehow own this.
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I feel like I am the only person who genuinely likes the Matrix sequels, and finds them satisfying and lots of fun to watch. Reloaded is such a blast, especially once they meet the Merovingian and things really get moving, and Revolutions felt of a piece with the other epic conclusions to franchises coming out at around the same time and was a fine conclusion. The sequels have endeared me to anything the Wachowski's have made since then, and I really haven't hated anything they've done, although Jupiter Ascending comes close just because it's kind of a mess. (Although a movie about Channing Tatum as a dog man who has to save Mila Kunis who was chosen by a bunch bees to be the queen of the universe is rad and a film I am glad I saw at least once. ) I am sad to hear they probably won't be making anything else major in the future because I always make time for their stuff.
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:I feel like I am the only person who genuinely likes the Matrix sequels, and finds them satisfying and lots of fun to watch. Reloaded is such a blast, especially once they meet the Merovingian and things really get moving, and Revolutions felt of a piece with the other epic conclusions to franchises coming out at around the same time and was a fine conclusion. I really enjoy the Architect's speech. Not because of what he says but because the actor got a really cool voice.
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The DVD talk reminds me how, despite digging most of the content on it, I cannot stand the commentary tracks on the Matrix DVDs. There's a preface saying that unlike other DVDs contents about how their commentary tracks were all about how the cast and crew regale each other about stories on set, they are going to have a commentary track from philosophers praising the film, and critics trashing the film. Dinks, I want the cast and crew regale each other about stories on set.
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I also think that the end of the trilogy works really well. The machines aren't defeated but every human is free to choose If they want to stay or leave the Matrix.
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Cacator posted:It's an almost obnoxiously woke Found a guy who sucks
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The matrix whips scrote because it's just seething with queer energy, I love it so much
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Found a guy who sucks Poor choice of words? Maybe I should have said "in your face", I have no problem with the social progressiveness of the show and in fact found the lovey doveyness infectious and I'm usually not receptive to that kind of thing.
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Pirate Jet posted:They sold their production offices last year and a friend of theirs claimed Lana said they “accomplished everything they set out to do.” I love that this article remembers cn9, which was a crazy script that could never get made/released in at least the next decade https://www.vulture.com/2010/09/weve_got_details_on_the_wachow.html
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TheBigBudgetSequel posted:I feel like I am the only person who genuinely likes the Matrix sequels, and finds them satisfying and lots of fun to watch. Reloaded is such a blast, especially once they meet the Merovingian and things really get moving, and Revolutions felt of a piece with the other epic conclusions to franchises coming out at around the same time and was a fine conclusion. I think the sequels really suffer from how good the original was, if I had to put my finger on the problem. Reloaded is still a great movie, and Revolutions is perfectly fine even if it's not the Best Movie Ever, but each sequel seems a little weaker than the film that came before it, which leads to a feeling of disappointment even if the films aren't actually bad per se. Look at Star Wars: if the original had been as good as ESB, and ESB had only been as good as the original, people would probably feel wildly different about the strength of the trilogy in general, even if the movies had still been relatively equal in quality.
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This isnt the whole scene, and I don't care how bad people think this movie was, but this scene in its entirety is one of the most well staged aerial chase/action sequences ever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L589GA-KKq4 It is so geographically brilliant. For all of its insanity and absurd physics, the physical arc and evolution is masterfully laid out. From starting mid air in a freefall after their ship is blown up while theyre mid tractor beaming into it, to crash landing onto the ground after being airborne the entire sequence, its such a fantastic starting line to finish line structure I rarely see done this well.
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Jupiter Ascending is legit a great flick and I won't hear otherwise. It has a lot of problems, don't get me wrong, such as how almost every line of dialogue is exposition, but it's just so earnest and everyone seems to be having a good time. The action is satisfying, the characters are fun, there's an elephant alien pilot named Nesh, and it's super refreshing to have an action hero tough guy dude who is very forward with his emotions. When Sean Bean gives him the pep talk at the end and he starts crying? Chef kiss. Mila Kunis is a great protag too. She's just doing her best, okay?
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Plus the Wolfman breakdance fights a dragon
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Jupiter Ascending is another example of the Wachowki's guileless approach to storytelling. Like I remember people bitching about the whole "bees can sense royalty" bit, but like, the Wachowski's aren't stupid. That's exactly the kind of wild "we haven't quite figured out the science of things" nonsense you'd see in golden age space pulps. The movie asks you to just kind of go with things a lot of the time, and I don't think it's out of a place of necessarily poor writing, so much as a style of writing that just says, hey isn't this more fun? No part of that movie tries to present itself as hard sci-fi, and it feels like a lot of the negative reception to it was from an audience that wasn't prepared to engage with it otherwise.
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Basebf555 posted:I wish I felt capable of doing a Cloud Atlas effort post but the thing is so dense and I feel like after watching it several times I still don't quite have a handle on it. i really enjoyed cloud atlas and the hate has always mystified me. jupiter ascending too.
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R. Guyovich posted:i really enjoyed cloud atlas and the hate has always mystified me. If you feel like you have to understand things to enjoy them, I can see it. It's a beautiful but utterly baffling movie, in my opinion. I don't need to be able to make sense of it fully to enjoy it. Jupiter Ascending is on my list of movies to watch too, but I haven't seen it yet.
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Fart City posted:Jupiter Ascending is another example of the Wachowki's guileless approach to storytelling. Like I remember people bitching about the whole "bees can sense royalty" bit, but like, the Wachowski's aren't stupid. That's exactly the kind of wild "we haven't quite figured out the science of things" nonsense you'd see in golden age space pulps. The movie asks you to just kind of go with things a lot of the time, and I don't think it's out of a place of necessarily poor writing, so much as a style of writing that just says, hey isn't this more fun? No part of that movie tries to present itself as hard sci-fi, and it feels like a lot of the negative reception to it was from an audience that wasn't prepared to engage with it otherwise. I mean, I think my biggest issue is that nothing they have made in ages seems interesting to me and I can't quite figure out why Like Sense8, Speed Racer, Cloud Atlas, Jupiter, etc. etc. There is something about them that comes off as dull despite that not being the case and I cannot put my finger on it
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I predict that sometime around 2025 The Matrix will get a remake and people will reexamine the sequels and find them to have been ahead of their time.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Jupiter Ascending is legit a great flick and I won't hear otherwise. It has a lot of problems, don't get me wrong, such as how almost every line of dialogue is exposition, but it's just so earnest and everyone seems to be having a good time. The action is satisfying, the characters are fun, there's an elephant alien pilot named Nesh, and it's super refreshing to have an action hero tough guy dude who is very forward with his emotions. When Sean Bean gives him the pep talk at the end and he starts crying? Chef kiss. Mila Kunis is a great protag too. She's just doing her best, okay? Its one of those movies Ive shown numerous people after expressing my love for it and even after we watch it and have a good laugh at the less than stellar parts, every single person has said they had a great time and enjoyed it.
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I predict that sometime around 2025 The Matrix will get a remake and people will reexamine the sequels and find them to have been ahead of their time. There was talk of a new movie that takes place in the Matrix universe a couple years ago.
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I went to rewatch Jupiter Ascending on HBO because I only saw it once when it first came out and yeesh, I think I've spoiled myself with 4k because the streaming quality made me feel like I was not getting the proper experience at all. Turned it off after 10 mins and ordered the UHD from Amazon instead, it should be here tomorrow.Detective No. 27 posted:There was talk of a new movie that takes place in the Matrix universe a couple years ago. Yea that would be the one ace in the hole that the Wackowskis will always have, if they choose to play it. If they were to express serious interest in another Matrix film(plus Keanu has said he'd do it if the Wackowskis were involved) they'd have no problems at all getting the money together. Basebf555 fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Apr 9, 2019 |
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