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I hadn't seen Angle's farewell tour matches, but watching him in the Corbin match, I'm not sure it even mattered who he faced. It probably just shouldn't have happened. Short of Bret Hart pulling a Tom Magee on him, Angle is... not capable of putting on a comfortable looking match. I mean it felt like watching a sickly person force himself into a match. I respect the hell out of him for performing but it just left me feeling sad, especially as I always thought he was a top 5 wrestler of all time. Even if Cena came out to challenge him after say, knocking out Corbin, there's not a good way to make either of them look good. Angle standing toe to toe with him wouldn't be a good look for Cena. Cena squashing Angle would also feel pretty lovely. I think it's probably best to assume Angle's not thinking with the soundest mind these days and WWE (maybe Vince) felt obligated to oblige him for a farewell. Is he gone from TV or was that just a retirement as a wrestler?
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Kurt hasn't been good for years. The only somewhat fun match he's had was as Shield Dad which only worked because Seth and Dean did the heavy lifting. Mind you the Corbin thing suuuucked but it was always going to be a bad match.
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I mean, they did a classic retirement for Ric Flair and he wasn't exactly a spring chicken. A compelling story and an opponent who could carry the match could easily have given Angle a decent send off. But they decided to make it about putting over Baron Corbin after a bunch of "showcase" matches Angle apparently couldn't really deliver on anymore, so there you go. I haven't seen a single Angle match since he returned to WWE so it seems sad to hear how far he's apparently fallen. At the end of his TNA career he was definitely slowing down but was still very much capable of having good matches. I think he racked up a couple of 4* matches even in his final year there. So it sounds like he just fell off a cliff in the last year or two.
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STAC, trust me when I say I genuinely believe Flair was in much better shape against HBK than Kurt is now. Problem is that Kurt has always relied on being a wrestling machine. Flair hasn't. I'm not saying we got as good as we could have, but it was never going to be anything better than inoffensive.
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He was so happy that night
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I still wish Seth and Dean had dressed up as Team Angle instead of the other way around.
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Kurt is broken down and the match was absolutely going to suck regardless of who it was but that doesn’t mean they should’ve picked literally the shittiest choice possible.
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Digital Jedi posted:He was so happy that night It was adorable. 
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SamuraiFoochs posted:STAC, trust me when I say I genuinely believe Flair was in much better shape against HBK than Kurt is now. Problem is that Kurt has always relied on being a wrestling machine. Flair hasn't. I'm not saying we got as good as we could have, but it was never going to be anything better than inoffensive. Angle's strength was being a wrestling machine but a lot of the reason people loved him was because of his goofy comedy character work and personality. Like I said, I haven't seen him in his WWE return so I don't know how broken he is. But I have a hard time imagining someone like Cena couldn't have had a fun sports entertainment match with him at the very least. It just feels like we're accepting that because they couldn't get a good match/story with Baron Corbin out of it it was a helpless cause. I know he send in some apparent stinkers with guys like AJ and Joe he's made magic with before, but I gotta think that a heavily rehearsed, planned, and story driven match could do better.
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Apr 9, 2019 00:30
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He can't turn his head, he's slow, he can't transition between moves.
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Would've been a good opportunity to give him new gear and new music but Yknow why bother
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I accept Corbin because people already dislike him. I think if you put in a "good" wrestler against Angle at this point, it'll only diminish his opponent rather than give him a good send off. Corbin's a safe sacrifice. Unless you go with the straight up super gimmick match where Shawn Michaels sells every Hogan attack like he's Loki at the end of the Avengers.
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Hey now. That DICK! posted:you can fake a disease but you cant fake heart I read this initially as "You can fake a diesel but..." still rings true.
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