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There's a book coming out about making of the series. There are some amazing things in it, it seems.quote:George R.R. Martin: “So we’re by this little brook. They tied the horses to the trees and there’s a seduction scene by the stream. Jason Momoa and Tamzin are naked and “having sex.” And suddenly the video guy starts to laugh. The silver filly was not a filly at all. It was a colt. And it was getting visibly excited by watching these two humans. There’s this horse in the background with this enormous horse schlong. So that didn’t go well either.” quote:George R.R. Martin: “The biggest thing was Dan and David called me up and had the idea of eliminating Rickon, the youngest of the Stark children, because he didn’t do much in the first book. I said I had important plans for him, so they kept him.” GRRM talks about horse cocks and D&D didn't want Rickon to be in the series at all, were told that he's gonna be important and in the end Rickon was in but did nothing of importance.
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Have there been other cases of a TV series starting out as a total cultural powerhouse to going out on a whimper?
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Sep 22, 2020 19:06
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Sep 22, 2020 19:09
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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to a certain extent but GoT dominated pop culture and social media for a full decade. Now it's like it never happened
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Sep 22, 2020 19:13
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The original run of Twin Peaks?
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Sep 22, 2020 19:23
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Bioshuffle posted:Have there been other cases of a TV series starting out as a total cultural powerhouse to going out on a whimper? Maybe Lost or House or the X-files? They were all huge in their prime and lost their luster or faded away. I like post molder x files but a lot of people didn't.
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Sep 22, 2020 19:49
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Dexter was big but not really on that level. ER was the biggest show there was in the mid-90s but as one actor after another left but the show kept on a-going, it became an afterthought.
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Sep 22, 2020 20:55
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Binging the show right now and doing a LOL at the child actor having a sex scene. Yet somehow Cuties is the one in the crosshairs?
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Sep 22, 2020 20:57
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The first run of Penny dreadful had a pretty dismal end as well. That show had great atmosphere but completely threw it out the window in the last five episodes. The big bad guy didn't even get killed, instead he walked out of the room off screen.
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Rickon being on cannibal island could have been a fun filled episode
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Sep 22, 2020 21:02
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Mantis42 posted:The original run of Twin Peaks? yeah no one talks about twin peaks anymore nor was it influential in any way whatsoever. David Lynch deffo on the same level as D&D. Good call op.
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Sep 22, 2020 21:08
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I would also be curious about what happened with Dallas. Like I only know about the show from The Simpsons spoof, but as I recall that cliff hanger was A Big DealTM
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As Nero Danced posted:The first run of Penny dreadful had a pretty dismal end as well. That show had great atmosphere but completely threw it out the window in the last five episodes. The big bad guy didn't even get killed, instead he walked out of the room off screen. There's a lot of goofy stuff going on in Penny Dreadful season 3 where a picture is painted of a showrunner nuking his own show in a hurry (despite denials) because he's been told he's only getting this one last season. Unlike GoT, which took a couple of seasons for the life to fully leave its bones, Penny Dreadful does a nose dive.
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Sep 22, 2020 21:18
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Binging the show right now and doing a LOL at the child actor having a sex scene. Yet somehow Cuties is the one in the crosshairs? Are you talking about Maisie Williams? She was like 22 years old.
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thexerox123 posted:Are you talking about Maisie Williams? She was like 22 years old. The actor, sure. But doesn't the MPAA consider what the actors are depicting? I'd swear I've seen ratings for like "Teen Drug Use" even though it's a bunch of 27 year old jabronis pretending to be high schoolers Didn't bother me since it's all make believe, but that was definitely sex between a child and an adult
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Sep 22, 2020 22:01
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How does age as a number ever work in westeros with the hosed up seasons and all?
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Sep 22, 2020 22:08
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Probably not even relevant, since there's no such thing as consent, and you're sexually available once you've had your Moon Blood or whatever they call it.
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Bioshuffle posted:Have there been other cases of a TV series starting out as a total cultural powerhouse to going out on a whimper? Lost kicked rear end the entire time, anyone that didn't like the final season was an uncultured fool 
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It felt like JJ was salty that people predicted the "dead the whole time" thing and made it the final season twist instead
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Bip Roberts posted:How does age as a number ever work in westeros with the hosed up seasons and all? You can track years by the progression of the sun and changing stars and stuff. Or they invented calendars way back and really stuck to them
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Bip Roberts posted:How does age as a number ever work in westeros with the hosed up seasons and all? How does agriculture work? How does Mance Rayder field an army of 100,000 warriors (warriors, not just people--implying hundreds of thousands more out there) when they appear to live on permafrost? https://www.livescience.com/18972-earth-seasons-tilt.html quote:Forget modern technology, the steam engine, or sliced bread. In a world without seasons, there wouldn't even be wheat. According to Don Attwood, an ecological anthropologist at McGill University in Montreal, humans would probably never have advanced past a state of living in small, scattered settlements, scrounging for survival and often dying of horrific insect-borne diseases.
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The actor, sure. But doesn't the MPAA consider what the actors are depicting? I'd swear I've seen ratings for like "Teen Drug Use" even though it's a bunch of 27 year old jabronis pretending to be high schoolers HBO actually sent out an awkward tweet a few hours before or after the episode aired reminding everyone that Arya was 18 years old by that point in the story. Here it is: https://mobile.twitter.com/hbo_uk/status/1119989670182576128?lang=en
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:The actor, sure. But doesn't the MPAA consider what the actors are depicting? I'd swear I've seen ratings for like "Teen Drug Use" even though it's a bunch of 27 year old jabronis pretending to be high schoolers Daenerys is 13 in S1.  (According to the book.)
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Sep 22, 2020 22:40
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:It felt like JJ was salty that people predicted the "dead the whole time" thing and made it the final season twist instead He barely had anything to do with the show after the pilot.
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Bioshuffle posted:Have there been other cases of a TV series starting out as a total cultural powerhouse to going out on a whimper? It's not gone yet, but The Walking Dead would be a good example.
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Bioshuffle posted:Have there been other cases of a TV series starting out as a total cultural powerhouse to going out on a whimper? The fact that no one's remembered it yet is a good sign I'm on to a winner here: Heroes
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Ego-bot posted:It's not gone yet, but The Walking Dead would be a good example. lol excellent point, how is that even still going?
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I'd say the Battlestar Galactica remake, but tbh that wasn't the media cultural juggernaut that the others are.
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PittTheElder posted:lol excellent point, how is that even still going? It’s in the name of the show
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Does anything really 'stick' in the public consciousness these days? Trump was impeached 8 months ago and it feels like ancient history.
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People still say "sweet summer child"*, that's kind of a lasting legacy *No your southern auntie didn't used to say it before GoT. And that quote you're gonna google is from an old poem where it was used as a metaphor for "the wind", not naivety
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Captain Splendid posted:The fact that no one's remembered it yet is a good sign I'm on to a winner here: Just absolutely this. Everyone talked about series 1 then series 2 just....vanished the show forever.
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oliwan posted:yeah no one talks about twin peaks anymore nor was it influential in any way whatsoever. David Lynch deffo on the same level as D&D. Good call op. I mean in the way the ratings just completely collapsed in season 2.
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Everyone agrees in real time on the show*. They even purposely pointed out Arya was 18 a couple days before her sex scene. *except for Gilly's kid which stayed a baby for five years.
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Sure, kid lived in a fridge
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Solice Kirsk posted:*except for Gilly's kid which stayed a baby for five years. Maybe time was actively distorted at the wall? Explains the baby, the season-spanning weekend excursions north of the wall, and of course the Drogon 747 rescuing them from the lake
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thexerox123 posted:Daenerys is 13 in S1. They're aged up in the show.
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No, the gross thing about the scene isn't the book character's age, nor the actress's final age---it's the actress's original age when she was first hired, and also her apparent age in season 1. If you know hollywood and how much child exploitation there is behind the scenes, and if you know D&D's type, you know it was something they had calculated out since her very first audition which was god knows how early. Anyway no, no other single show dominated an entire decade of popular media conversations in history like this. Only to become despised by the public overnight. It's historic. It's not easy to do that. You pretty much have to take something historically amazing (the GoT books so far) and then make as many indefensible decisions as went into CATS the movie, which is what happened.
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It's a little bit like how Mass Effect 3 ended -- if it was just OK or predictable everyone would have ultimately been fine with it. But in both cases they screwed up in ways that cause them to nose-dive out of popular culture
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Pattonesque posted:It's a little bit like how Mass Effect 3 ended -- if it was just OK or predictable everyone would have ultimately been fine with it. But in both cases they screwed up in ways that cause them to nose-dive out of popular culture Wow, yeah I forgot about that one. Then the spin-off tanked even harder.
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