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mcbexx posted:I can totally see Cersei being so mad for power and spiteful that she'll happily sell out Westeros' humankind just to sit next to the Night King on the Iron Throne as his undead frost queen. "Let him be king over ashes" is sort of a theme and it applies very much to Cersei's ambitions who already burned half of king's landing just so she could cling to power. The funny thing about Cersei is how half the past season revolved around Jon's mission to recruit Cersei using a wight and how it was a big deal but now, of course, the second she's our the sight of the dragons she's just back to her old power mongering ways and we're expected to think that Sansa is really clever for pointing this out to Tyrion but the whole thing was ridiculously obvious all along, Jon's mission made zero sense, they lost a dragon and spun the wheels for an entire season and it had almost no bearing on this season because Cersei is Cersei. Oh well.
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Dickon was okay to Sam, he was just the preferred brother but he never mistreated Sam, incidentally Sam only broke down when he heard Dickon was killed, his reaction to his father's death was relatively stoic.
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Apr 16, 2019 12:54
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I'm glad we spent twenty minutes of screen time following the Arya's quest of getting a pointy stick from Gendry.
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Apr 22, 2019 06:56
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The oath says: "I pledge my life and honor to the Night's Watch, for this night and all the nights to come", it doesn't say "until my heart stops beating for some unspecified period of time". I'm certain that in the books there will be characters who'll consider Jon to be an oathbreaker, for the show that would just be some confusing ambiguity. OTOH in the books it's pretty safe to assume that the Night's Watch is pretty much over with the moment Jon is murdered because Castle Black has a 10:1 ratio of Wildlings to Night's watch men, and a few Melisandre\Selyse loyalists who probably wouldn't be down with the whole thing either, so who knows.
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Apr 22, 2019 12:28
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:Are the vale knights all at winterfell still? There aren’t any armies or characters left. Yes, Lord Royce is the guy with the goofy breastplate hanging around Sansa.
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Apr 22, 2019 14:54
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TheRat posted:I doubt Melisandre shows up before ep 4-6 somewhere. She feels like an endgame-character. Mel will show up at the last second going all "I sure was wrong about a whole lotta stuff, I guess R'hllor is a C tier deity after all".
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Apr 22, 2019 14:59
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This faceless teenage assassin fucks.
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Apr 22, 2019 16:57
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Goons are trying to show off that they're the Least Pedophiliac by going on the offensive of how wrong the sex scene is I'll have you know I was an 18 year old and then a 22 year old and I did no such thing.
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Apr 22, 2019 17:03
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Have they used the word obsidian in the show? It's definitely the Westeros equivalent but I just sorta figured that dragonglass is a fantasy material that is like obsidian in every way and also can be smelted and forged in any manner shown or implied by the show Yes, at least once when Sam is explaining what Dragonglass is to Stannis, the guy who literally lived on a volcano and knows all about Dragonglass.
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Apr 22, 2019 17:05
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Reminder that steel can't be caste into molds to make weapons in a medieval setting anyway so it's all dumb but Gendry literally learned to smith from the guy who ruined ice by melting it down like a goof
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Apr 22, 2019 17:15
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In the books it is implied that the volcanoes of valyria had 'wyrms' which were proto dragons and the valyrians magically engineered them into dragons. It's clear that the whole 'walkers are immune to magic fire' thing was pulled from D&D's rear end just for the gotcha scene and nothing more
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Apr 29, 2019 16:21
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Matt Zerella posted:I'm pretty sure the books and the show have stated that wildfire is pretty unstable and doesn't travel well? At the very least it's been alluded to? I know for sure in the books they talk about the stock under the city deteriorating. They did but then the arch pyromancer (rip Roy Dotrice) says that Aerys' secret stashes have been found and are as potent as ever, presumably due to the return of the dragons
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Apr 29, 2019 16:23
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KidDynamite posted:So like gently caress the story arguments. Did anyone else with an OLED TV have this episode and any dark scenes in general look like complete poo poo? I was watching via HBO Go and the first 20-30 minutes were so bad. I need to find some 4k I don't think it was your TV, I watched it through HBO go as well and the dark scenes were riddled with compression artifacts. I think it's just the codec HBO use or some poo poo.
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Apr 29, 2019 17:00
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"But Khaleesi, we are light cavalry, we wear no armor and don't carry pole weapons" Said no Dothraki.
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Apr 29, 2019 17:02
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Zotix posted:A lot of pages to go through while I'm at work. Any discussion on the possibility of Arya becoming converted? All the walkers were converted by touch, viserion, Bran, etc. No adult living human beings were shown converted into White Walker status other than the Night King himself, and he was converted through an obsidian slab transplant through the heart.
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Bedshaped posted:BotB wasn't any different than this episode was it? Nah, this episode didn't look great.
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Apr 30, 2019 23:43
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Its Coke posted:Someone unpaid with just some consumer video editing software fixed the Rhaegal scene: https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/bnq8to/rhaegal_dies_but_it_makes_slightly_more_sense/ Much better. GoT has become a show lacking all true 'TV craftsmanship', they just blow wads of money on sets, costumes and CGI but everything from side of the producers, directors and writers is pretty rote, you can really tell that D&D grew to view the whole thing in more logistical terms than artistic terms.
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May 12, 2019 19:03
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This season had a few opportunities to remind the viewers that Dany's main parental figure was her mentally broken brother Viserys, that he literally indoctrinated her into thinking that her life if meaningless unless she reclaims the iron throne, the show could have done a better job at showing how Dany's entitlement (reinforced by the universe giving her magical powers) erodes her sanity and prevents her from giving up on Viserys' dreams.
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May 13, 2019 06:43
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D&D shoulda just shown Dany's army setting camp outside of King's Landing -> fade to black -> *five years later* - so they could take a giant piss at GRRM's delicate writing sensibilities.
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May 13, 2019 07:25
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All Sandor had to say was "even a monster deserves better" instead of "this is what you always were"
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May 13, 2019 09:41
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She'll dye her head black in the beginning of the next episode and by the next time she shows up on screen she'll be a platinum blonde again.
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May 13, 2019 13:17
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Vegetable posted:Why is Jamie’s hair so dark? It was so obvious when he was beside Cersei. In the earlier season he had blond locks. Tyrion and Jaime both started with golden hair and went back to their natural hair color after the first season (I think for Tyrion it was right after the first episode). It's just a thing that happened.
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May 13, 2019 14:35
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:https://twitter.com/NiveaSoftXX/status/1127801971786825728 gently caress me all those guys on twitter going "Woah!!! so deep!!!", like what the hell. This is as fake deep as it gets.
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May 13, 2019 14:49
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Actually the paler a GoT character is the more likely is it to be a murderous rear end in a top hat.
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May 13, 2019 15:01
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ElGroucho posted:Let this be a lesson to all the writers here He did make tens of millions of dollars from the whole thing...
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May 13, 2019 15:14
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Cleganebowl should have had the undertones of a mercy kill, should have had Gregor killing Qyburn like Vader killed the emperor after fighting Sandor against his will. But no I mean Gregor is still really angry about that toy knight from when he was 12.
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May 13, 2019 15:58
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Groovelord Neato posted:i dunno season 5-7 were mostly boring bad and now it's off the wall ridiculous bad and it's far more entertaining. Yes, this season is written like a dumpster fire but they made better use of the CGI budget.
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May 13, 2019 16:08
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Chris James 2 posted:https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/game-of-thrones/s08/e05 48% on Rotten Tomatoes. Officially the lowest critically-reviewed episode of the series' history People who think that this is the show's worst episode really haven't been paying attention for the past few years.
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May 13, 2019 16:22
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No Wave posted:Wow, it's nuts that Maisie Williams ever got nominated for an acting award. She was good at child-acting.
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Astro7x posted:Dany was treated very differently in Essos than when she came to Westeros. In Westeros, nobody really wanted her to take the throne. She thought she would be praised as the breaker of chains and all that stuff, but to people wanted nothing of it. Was she though? We got absolutely zero insight about how the smallfolk of westeros perceive Dany, the show was never strong on that whole perspective but in the past there were events like the riots in season 2, we sort of knew how the population of Meereen was divided and how Dany was perceived, etc, but all that sort of stuff has been completely gone here, we hear from a bunch of nobles that the people prefer Jon but on the other hand there's zero discontent in King's Landing and they don't seem to be clamoring for either Jon or Dany, but otoh the perspective of the population of king's landing wasn't even expressed after the destruction of the great sept so who knows. And really some of these had the potential of being pretty interesting, things like how the smallfolk would have seen Dany, or what people from the south made of the reports of the battle against the dead.
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Chewbot posted:And it's bizarre to me why anyone wouldn't understand why season 8 sucks to new heights compared to season 5, back when you had great characters who still had solid foundations and fascinating, unpredictable protagonists like Bolton, Littlefinger and Margery. There was still tons of potential for where the story could go and what could happen to the major players. Season 8 is a dumpster fire, but the latest episode was in no way worse than the 14 or so episodes that preceded it, the action wasn't all completely stupid, it finally made some satisfying use of a big dragon and it generally made sense from start to finish.
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May 13, 2019 17:38
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iamsosmrt posted:The true villain of the show. Deep down he's still Bran and just mad as hell he can't get a stiffy any longer. Last scene of the show, Bran seats atop the iron throne and says to no one in particular "chaos is a ladder"
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May 13, 2019 17:42
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Like, couldn't Dany at least just focus on the Red Keep? Like turn that place into smoldering rubble, that would still be intimidating, and a better 9/11 analogy surely (even though the great sept was pretty much already that) - why burn the entire city? like really, shouldn't it just be the fortifications and then the keep? Why be a total dick about the whole thing? doesn't she get how bad the PR is?
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May 13, 2019 19:17
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Groovelord Neato posted:crucifying the masters was probably the most morally justified thing she's done. Only she basically killed a bunch of random nobles, Hizdahr said his father wasn't even involved in the slave trade. She could have done a better job there as well.
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May 13, 2019 19:46
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Moridin920 posted:The Golden Company famously cares about honor over money (they have never broken a contract), has sworn to put an heir of Blackfyre on the throne of Westeros (their motto is "Our word is as good as gold"), has participated in 3 invasions of Westeros for that reason (one of which just happened when Robert Baratheon was king), and whose warcry is "Beneath the gold, the bitter steel!" in reference to Aegor 'Bittersteel' Rivers. You're thinking of the Golden Company from the books, not the one on the show, you can tell them apart by the lack of elephants.
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May 13, 2019 19:48
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Gregor I should've been returned just for the cleganebowl.
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May 13, 2019 21:09
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marshalljim posted:What is the dumbest possible way for this mess of a show to end? They could do something like have Arya kill the night king unceremoniously while nobody seems to give a poo poo and then have Emilia Clarke start murdering women and children out of the blue.
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May 14, 2019 07:26
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The twitter meltdowns are of course ridiculous but the show did specifically characterize Dany as a successful populist, she knows what it takes to have the masses love her and understands that it's a process, Dany has been shown to be an intelligent and rational person, even if cruel towards her perceived enemies. Dany is also a character that was specifically shown to grow and learn to cope with grief and disappointment and still come out on top when the odds are stacked against her (though she usually did that through burning poo poo, tbh); so while yeah, her turning was 'set up' in the last episode it is still somewhat forced, we haven't seen anything from Dany that suggests she'd turn into the joker under these circumstances, her "furious wrath" could have still been terrible even if only directed towards people who specifically opposed her or betrayed her. The show could have even been set up ambiguously wherein Dany (or Grey Worm who was also pretty hosed up) command the Unsullied and the Dothraki to sack the city after the surrender while she herself just goes to annihilate the Red Keep and the areas surrounding it, it doesn't have to be Dany personally dropping napalm death on innocent civilians, that is seriously just excessive.
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This dumb youtube video sums the discussion pretty well imo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ikUYFK84OQ
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Babylon 5 was so good it managed to land two separate and decent endings.
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