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morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Not really surprising at all but when Boston media is reporting on something I assume it's coming from the Celtics, even when they go out of their way to say their source is NOT THE CELTICS

https://twitter.com/SteveBHoop/status/1139288332914110464?s=20

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humpthewind
Jan 8, 2007

Noblest of all dogs is the hot-dog; it feeds the hand that bites it.


I saw a post on Facebook comparing the first six seasons of Arenas vs Curry and the numbers were eerily similar. Can someone with more bball ref skill show me the comp?

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


humpthewind posted:

I saw a post on Facebook comparing the first six seasons of Arenas vs Curry and the numbers were eerily similar. Can someone with more bball ref skill show me the comp?

Peak Gil is probably a little underrated now but Steph's career 3pt% is like 7 percent better than any Arenas season. I can't get the link to work on my phone but I ran it and basically they have comparable pts/reb/ast numbers but Steph is way more efficient.

MourningView fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Jun 14, 2019

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



gil would go top 5 in a modern draft

nothing but respect for my black president

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

Tits and cooters, Mr Bond.


humpthewind posted:

I saw a post on Facebook comparing the first six seasons of Arenas vs Curry and the numbers were eerily similar. Can someone with more bball ref skill show me the comp?

Iím phoneposting but the answers shouldnít surprise you

Steph takes many more three pointers as a % of FGs (33 as a rookie to 48 in his sixth year), teammates rely on his assists more, he uses fewer possessions, and he turns it over much more (which just from the territory of playing more like a PG and less like a combo guard, which is no shade at Arenas, just different playstyles)

Arenasís numbers were WAY closer to Kyrieís

humpthewind
Jan 8, 2007

Noblest of all dogs is the hot-dog; it feeds the hand that bites it.


I think agent zero would make far superior shoes though

humpthewind
Jan 8, 2007

Noblest of all dogs is the hot-dog; it feeds the hand that bites it.


kingcobweb posted:

Iím phoneposting but the answers shouldnít surprise you

Steph takes many more three pointers as a % of FGs (33 as a rookie to 48 in his sixth year), teammates rely on his assists more, he uses fewer possessions, and he turns it over much more (which just from the territory of playing more like a PG and less like a combo guard, which is no shade at Arenas, just different playstyles)

Arenasís numbers were WAY closer to Kyrieís

I wonder if the number of kobe assists Gil created helped close the assist gap

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



gilís best teammates were antawn jamison and caron butler

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

Tits and cooters, Mr Bond.


humpthewind posted:

I wonder if the number of kobe assists Gil created helped close the assist gap

The Wizards got 12.8 OREB/100 pos in 06-07 above the league median of 12.2. Your post establishes as law that this advantage is due to Gil and no one else, so if you consider an OREB to be worth one point, thatís a marginal 0.6 points via Kobe assists/100 pos above the average team. Letís assume he only assists on 2s to make it easier, so thatís .3 assists per 100 that Gil DESERVES to have tacked on to that season. That takes him from 7.7 to 8.0.

Curry had 11.6/100 in his sixth seasons but weíre arguing in bad faith since itís the internet so letís compare that to his rookie year 7.8 assists/100 instead. A loving CHUMP NUMBER. Gil easily wins again

You also have to account for him being held back by that hideous mid-2000s Wizards logo

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch



oh and those loving atrocious zephyr jerseys, awful

anyways hereís one of my favorite basketball memories not involving the spurs: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ogrLrD6_8-o

humpthewind
Jan 8, 2007

Noblest of all dogs is the hot-dog; it feeds the hand that bites it.


kingcobweb posted:

The Wizards got 12.8 OREB/100 pos in 06-07 above the league median of 12.2. Your post establishes as law that this advantage is due to Gil and no one else, so if you consider an OREB to be worth one point, thatís a marginal 0.6 points via Kobe assists/100 pos above the average team. Letís assume he only assists on 2s to make it easier, so thatís .3 assists per 100 that Gil DESERVES to have tacked on to that season. That takes him from 7.7 to 8.0.

Curry had 11.6/100 in his sixth seasons but weíre arguing in bad faith since itís the internet so letís compare that to his rookie year 7.8 assists/100 instead. A loving CHUMP NUMBER. Gil easily wins again

You also have to account for him being held back by that hideous mid-2000s Wizards logo

Also Gil was never shut down by Kevin Love. I think the conclusion here is clear

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming


Declan MacManus posted:

gilís best teammates were antawn jamison and caron butler

And a few randomly good Larry Hughes years

Silly Burrito
Nov 26, 2007

Set a course for
the flavor quadrant.


Ok, now see what a one year rental can do, Danny Ainge?

:getin:

iospace
Jan 19, 2038




Hi Golden State :wave:

scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!






Fun Shoe

iospace posted:

Hi Golden State :wave:

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.



https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1139381622174732288?s=19

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark



Masai trampled the Knicks twice on his way to building a contender and a champion

Give that man a blank check and heíd fix the Wizards

kingcobweb
Apr 16, 2005

Tits and cooters, Mr Bond.


Masai on the Wizards would be able to trade Wall and a second round draft pick for the Empire State Building with free shipping for it to go on the national mall

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004




IT'S THE OFFSEASON, LET'S GET THE RUMORS GOING: IS DERRICK ROSE BACK???????????

duodenum
Sep 18, 2005



So now Kawhi can go to the Lakers with a clear conscience and make Kobe the 6th best Laker.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004




i really want the bulls to sign PAT BEV, the Prince of Boylenball

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012


"We all knew what my destinations were" when asked about getting traded to Toronto

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

Welcome Warriors fans. So many good moments over the years, and perhaps still more to come for you in the future. No one is ever going to give the Warriors sympathy for this, so I hope you don't look too hard for it, and also I know at times like this, y'all perhaps know more than anyone that silver linings are not welcome so I won't give them to you.

And to all who fished with me this offseason, it's been a joy that we've mostly had calm, playoff poster free discussion for the past few months and I thank you all for that.

tanglewood1420
Oct 28, 2010

The importance of this mission cannot be overemphasized


Crosspost from N/V but just making sure people see

:siren: I made the free agency prediction challenge thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3891903 :siren:

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004




https://twitter.com/wontgottlieb/status/1139663179535904768

granted i haven't been following the lakers but i was under the impression that lonzo loving sucks

Dejan Bimble
Mar 24, 2008

we're all black friends


Plaster Town Cop

R.D. Mangles posted:

https://twitter.com/wontgottlieb/status/1139663179535904768

granted i haven't been following the lakers but i was under the impression that lonzo loving sucks

He was hurt this year, but I think the sketch of the player he is came through. He can run, and make crazy crosscourt passes, he can defend and rebound. He can not run an offense in the half court and he cannot shoot or score at the basket

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004




also i know he is not good on defense and isn't a great facilitator but zach lavine gets buckets and that seems really undervalued here.

MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?


That trade is some serious Laker fan fiction. It'd be awful for the Pelicans

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

#1 Pelican Fan


MourningView posted:

That trade is some serious Laker fan fiction. It'd be awful for the Pelicans

It's what the Lakers would like to happen just as the Beal trade is what the Pels would like to happen. Neither will happen.

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
And now the whole nation - pulpit and all - will take up the war-cry, and shout itself hoarse, and mob any honest man who ventures to open his mouth; and presently such mouths will cease to open.

MourningView posted:

That trade is some serious Laker fan fiction. It'd be awful for the Pelicans

Yeah the money doesnít work. Itís weird though all the people taking about it have like gotten one thing right over the year.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

°Hola SEA!




Dejan Bimble posted:

He was hurt this year, but I think the sketch of the player he is came through. He can run, and make crazy crosscourt passes, he can defend and rebound. He can not run an offense in the half court and he cannot shoot or score at the basket

So heís...second year Rondo? But taller and with smaller hands, and can shoot threes if extremely way the gently caress wide open

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004




DeimosRising posted:

So heís...second year Rondo? But taller and with smaller hands, and can shoot threes if extremely way the gently caress wide open

:siren: THE REAL TALL RONDO

Lockback
Sep 2, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.


DeimosRising posted:

So he’s...second year Rondo? But taller and with smaller hands, and can shoot threes if extremely way the gently caress wide open

Rondo could score at the rim, but Lonzo is a better (more versatile at least) defender and I think a little less likely to bonehead your team like young Rondo could.

R.D. Mangles
Jan 10, 2004




the Next Rondo is the man who throws Ryan Arcidiacono into the scorer's table

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DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

°Hola SEA!




Lockback posted:

Rondo could score at the rim, but Lonzo is a better (more versatile at least) defender and I think a little less likely to bonehead your team like young Rondo could.

Yeah I intended (but did not say) that his big hands explain his better finishing

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