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~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Zamujasa posted:

they mention the previous version only looked at the list of files

they're trying to find any shortcuts to iexplore.exe even if they have a non-standard name

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Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
jokes on them all my porn is in a folder called not porn in c: root not getting my homegrown billy

Carrier
May 12, 2009


420...69...9001...
Hearing rumours at my company that they got told by Lastpass that the breach was backups for all their users and they are going to drop a report about it next week lol. Lastpass is hosed.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Carrier posted:

Hearing rumours at my company that they got told by Lastpass that the breach was backups for all their users and they are going to drop a report about it next week lol. Lastpass is hosed.

lmao and their last report was very specifically angling for that to have not been the case. security crew next week is going to be skyrim guards lmao

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug
Amazing how LastPass and all these guys never learn that transparency upfront with customers goes a long way.

Enjoy the hit to your buisiness

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

lomarfPass

Dr_0ctag0n
Apr 25, 2015


The whole human race
sentenced
to
burn

cinci zoo sniper posted:

lmao and their last report was very specifically angling for that to have not been the case. security crew next week is going to be skyrim guards lmao

I thought they already admitted they lost control of all the encrypted lastpass vaults from a backup source, or is this something else related to GoTo backups?

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Dr_0ctag0n posted:

I thought they already admitted they lost control of all the encrypted lastpass vaults from a backup source, or is this something else related to GoTo backups?

im referring just to the most recent (lol) disclosure, https://www.goto.com/blog/our-response-to-a-recent-security-incident

quote:

Our investigation to date has determined that a threat actor exfiltrated encrypted backups from a third-party cloud storage service related to the following products: Central, Pro, join.me, Hamachi, and RemotelyAnywhere. We also have evidence that a threat actor exfiltrated an encryption key for a portion of the encrypted backups. The affected information, which varies by product, may include account usernames, salted and hashed passwords, a portion of Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA) settings, as well as some product settings and licensing information. In addition, while Rescue and GoToMyPC encrypted databases were not exfiltrated, MFA settings of a small subset of their customers were impacted.

the vaults were gone yes, but here they talk about encryption keys, implying a specific set of services being affected by that, as in not lastpass. while every sane security team should have been operating under the assumption that every single lastpass item is compromised from the original disclosure of the current lastpass story arc, the optics for them are going to be, miraculously, even more catastrophal if they need to add to the above that lastpass was in fact further pwned

Chris Knight
Jun 5, 2002

me @ ur posts


Fun Shoe
security fuckup megathread 18.18: lomarfPass

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


edit: I don’t know the difference between lastpass and circleci lol

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




Pollyanna posted:

edit: I don’t know the difference between lastpass and circleci lol

in your defence, they’re the same thing - a software product you shouldn’t be using

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

LaffPass

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

lol why does this go back two years
CVE-2023-0361: libgnutls: Fix a Bleichenbacher oracle in the TLS RSA key exchange
https://gitlab.com/gnutls/gnutls/-/issues/1050

libg deez nutls

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




godaddy truly is a universal hosting services provider https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/godaddy-hackers-stole-source-code-installed-malware-in-multi-year-breach/

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


Twitter is making SMS based MFA require a Twitter Blue subscription. Non-paying users either have to manually remove SMS MFA from their account themselves themselves or switch to an app or token based MFA else they risk being locked out of their account in a month.

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
sms mfa should never be allowed in the first place

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer
some mfas always trying skate uphill

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

dpkg chopra posted:

some mfas always trying skate uphill

CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

sms mfa should never be allowed in the first place

yeah, people are having a meltdown over this like it's some kind of security nightmare, but as noted it's only making the non-blue accounts more secure

Agile Vector
May 21, 2007

scrum bored



infernal machines posted:

yeah, people are having a meltdown over this like it's some kind of security nightmare, but as noted it's only making the non-blue accounts more secure

like most things lonny is involved in, the risk increases the more you pay

outhole surfer
Mar 18, 2003

somehow mfers at work keep turning off their mfa on google workspace, forcing me to add them to the exemption group temporarily when their session eventually expires

El Mero Mero
Oct 13, 2001

infernal machines posted:

yeah, people are having a meltdown over this like it's some kind of security nightmare, but as noted it's only making the non-blue accounts more secure

are we really at a point where sim swapping is so bad and easy that we’re back to single-factor logins being better if you don’t have a hardware token?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.
i think we're at the point where app based and totp mfa are considerably better and they are both available options for blue and non-blue accounts per people complaining about the loss of sms

if you are not a twitter blue subscriber, you still have at least two other mfa options, you just can't use sms mfa, presumably because sms messages cost money to send.

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




infernal machines posted:

yeah, people are having a meltdown over this like it's some kind of security nightmare, but as noted it's only making the non-blue accounts more secure

Agile Vector posted:

like most things lonny is involved in, the risk increases the more you pay

really it's the perfect analogy, you have to way for tesla "fsd" too

cinci zoo sniper
Mar 15, 2013




El Mero Mero posted:

are we really at a point where sim swapping is so bad and easy that we’re back to single-factor logins being better if you don’t have a hardware token?

have you heard of totp

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

cinci zoo sniper posted:

have you heard of totp

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat

cinci zoo sniper posted:

have you heard of totp

what is this new technology, im pretty sure a mainstream site like google hasnt integrated it for a decade or anything like that

Achmed Jones
Oct 16, 2004



el mero mero is right. there's a ton of people who won't use totp but will uses sms mfa. they are much better off with sms mfa than no mfa. that there's another better (but less user friendly) choice is irrelevant and misses the point

CRIP EATIN BREAD
Jun 24, 2002

Hey stop worrying bout my acting bitch, and worry about your WACK ass music. In the mean time... Eat a hot bowl of Dicks! Ice T



Soiled Meat
gently caress those people then, they can go kick rocks

Soylent Pudding
Jun 22, 2007

We've got people!


If nothing else consider how much harder it's going to be to convince people to migrate away from SMS MFA now that Elon is marking it as a premium feature.

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

Achmed Jones posted:

el mero mero is right. there's a ton of people who won't use totp but will uses sms mfa. they are much better off with sms mfa than no mfa. that there's another better (but less user friendly) choice is irrelevant and misses the point

If they are on that level of non-technical, iOS has native TOTP and security key in the os at the tip of their finger(or face).

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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El Mero Mero posted:

are we really at a point where sim swapping is so bad and easy that we’re back to single-factor logins being better if you don’t have a hardware token?

from what i've heard sim swapping can be as simple as running into a verizion store and stealing the managers ipad

assuming you get a few dozen swaps before it's deactivated a single sim swap costs like $100

Perplx fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Feb 18, 2023

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Perplx posted:

from what i've heard sim swapping can be as simple as running into a verizion store and stealing the managers ipad

this genuinely sounds like a relevant factor though if that's what it takes. i was under the impression that the us network setup made it even easier than that

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


sms is obviously broken, but it it only matters if someone is targeting you

it still more than does the job to protect you against the assholes just running down password breach lists looking for low hanging fruit

and we all know that the people using sms arent using unique passwords

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Achmed Jones posted:

el mero mero is right. there's a ton of people who won't use totp but will uses sms mfa. they are much better off with sms mfa than no mfa. that there's another better (but less user friendly) choice is irrelevant and misses the point

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:

gently caress those people then, they can go kick rocks

I don't have actual numbers on hand, but that's the majority of people by an order of magnitude

Perplx
Jun 26, 2004


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I was way off on pricing, I was thinking of an episode of darknetdiaries

https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/112/ posted:

DREW: So, I’ll break it down to you based on carrier. So, T-Mobile at the moment costs you about $5,000 per swap. If they’re a fraud victim, then it costs you $7,500. A fraud victim has special protections on their account, but they’re still bypassable. Verizon is going to cost you upwards of probably $50,000. Verizon is extremely well secured, but it’s still possible if you have the right equipment. Like, you need a branch manager login which is a very high position. So, you need to be able to pay off that Verizon manager a lot, and you can’t hack them. You can’t – it appears, right now. I could be wrong. Maybe we’ll find new findings. But they pretty – you literally just need a insider. You can’t rat him or anything. For AT&T, I think that people are starting to decrease their prices down to $4,000, $2,000…$2,000 to $3,000 because their opus tool is not too secure.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

The Fool posted:

sms is obviously broken, it it only matters if someone is targeting you

it still more than does the job to protect you against the assholes just running down password breach lists looking for low hanging fruit

and we all know that the people using sms arent using unique passwords

sms is not *inherently* broken though, it entirely depends on how telco peering and similar is actually done. if done well enough that the attack is "your chosen operators backend could access your second factor" then it's actually to my mind pretty decent.

but afaik that is not actually the barrier in a lot of places/setups, and i think the "stealing an ipad from a telco manager" is imagining it *stronger* than it is.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Perplx posted:

I was way off on pricing, I was thinking of an episode of darknetdiaries

lmao att

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Cybernetic Vermin posted:

but afaik that is not actually the barrier in a lot of places/setups, and i think the "stealing an ipad from a telco manager" is imagining it *stronger* than it is.

I have some recollection of a story about a compromised account that happened because the attacker just convinced a phone rep that they lost their phone and the phone rep ignored policy ( and a flag on the victim's account iirc ) and issued a new sim

which is obviously a low bar, but still requires targeted effort

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sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





People have keys to their homes and cars, so it's only a small leap to convince them to also have keys to their computers and data, or at least their bank accounts.

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