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Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


English is very, very dumb.

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Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

TorakFade posted:

If anyone's still on the fence, you can prepurchase on GMG for 25% off using SPQR25 code at checkout.

That makes the game 29.99$. I already preordered it for 35$ during the lunar year Steam sale, I'm kinda tempted to be a full-on cheapskate and refund it to save those extra 5$ ... it could buy me a flavor DLC or something :v:

Just to clarify this: It is not a discount of the current price. Your discount increases to 25% from whatever GMG currently have it set as.

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002

1stGear posted:

To be clear, I wasn't criticizing the quality of translation or anything cause I got no loving idea how any of those words can be pronounced. Just the perpetual incredulous amazement that a word can look one way in English and be pronounced so radically different.

Y'all need some of God's chosen tongue: American.

But both of those are pronounced how they're spelled. It's like Germany vs. Deutschland.

sudo rm -rf
Aug 2, 2011


$ mv fullcommunism.sh
/america
$ cd /america
$ ./fullcommunism.sh


1stGear posted:

To be clear, I wasn't criticizing the quality of translation or anything cause I got no loving idea how any of those words can be pronounced. Just the perpetual incredulous amazement that a word can look one way in English and be pronounced so radically different.

Y'all need some of God's chosen tongue: American.

what's funny is that if we had better records or if the germanic tribes had a written language most of these would probably be even more different

it's basically just "what the romans called them" vs "what they called themselves", and we just happen to know a lot more about the former.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



I wish it was 18 hours in the future

Magissima
Apr 15, 2013

I'd like to introduce you to some of the most special of our rocks and minerals.
Soiled Meat

sudo rm -rf posted:

some quick work on germanic tribe names that i'll probably put in a mod:



I love the idea but at least some of these are just modern (High) German versions of the Latin names, right? Aside from being anachronistic, it's not any more closely related to the actual autonym than the Latin.

Mr.Unique-Name
Jul 5, 2002

Everybody on this thread is a giant loving nerd.

sudo rm -rf
Aug 2, 2011


$ mv fullcommunism.sh
/america
$ cd /america
$ ./fullcommunism.sh


Magissima posted:

I love the idea but at least some of these are just modern (High) German versions of the Latin names, right? Aside from being anachronistic, it's not any more closely related to the actual autonym than the Latin.

yeah, definitely. i went with proto-germanic and old-norse where it was available, but as you can imagine, it's not for most of them.

it's not a claim to accuracy, it's more about invoking a feeling that you're actually playing another culture. it's hard to do that with everything latinized.

sudo rm -rf fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Apr 24, 2019

deathbagel
Jun 10, 2008

Eimi posted:

English is very, very dumb.

This is true, we should all convert to Esperanto!

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
My stance is that if there’s one vaguely tangible benefit to putting however many hundreds of hours into these games, it’s that it helps you put into context those names you’d normally see devoid of it in a textbook or whatever. Which is completely nullified if you don’t use the standard accepted names.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider


I'd play this mod too.

sudo rm -rf posted:

maybe, that will need to wait until the game comes out though

That was a joke. Please do not waste your life renaming the provinces (alright, cities, if we must), there are seven thousand of the little bastards.

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
Name them Rome I through Rome VII.

You'll never guess where Rome CDXX is located.

sudo rm -rf
Aug 2, 2011


$ mv fullcommunism.sh
/america
$ cd /america
$ ./fullcommunism.sh


Koramei posted:

My stance is that if there’s one vaguely tangible benefit to putting however many hundreds of hours into these games, it’s that it helps you put into context those names you’d normally see devoid of it in a textbook or whatever. Which is completely nullified if you don’t use the standard accepted names.

you'd never see the vast majority of the names from imperator in a text book anyways because the -ia endings to denote "country of x tribe" is almost purely an invention of the game

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



KOGAHAZAN!! posted:

I'd play this mod too.


That was a joke. Please do not waste your life renaming the provinces (alright, cities, if we must), there are seven thousand of the little bastards.

Province names for each culture or bust :colbert:

Fintilgin
Sep 29, 2004

Fintilgin sweeps!
Ugh. I knew I should have gone with my gut and just ordered it off Steam. :smith:

Ordered one copy of the deluxe edition of Green Man Games. Everything looked fine checking out, and then the confirmation email/screen looked like this:


My credit card only shows 1 charge of (what should be correct) $41.24, but now I'm all anxious and irritated. Submitted a support ticket and am ready to contest the charge with my credit card company if they give me poo poo. :(

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
yeah i'm not impressed with gmg, i didn't get screwed on check out like you did but they don't give you the code so that you can preload it on steam, instead you have to just wait around and keep checking back until they send it to you

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

AnEdgelord posted:

yeah i'm not impressed with gmg, i didn't get screwed on check out like you did but they don't give you the code so that you can preload it on steam, instead you have to just wait around and keep checking back until they send it to you

There is no preload.

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

There is no preload.

well drat

nevermind lol

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Fintilgin posted:

Ugh. I knew I should have gone with my gut and just ordered it off Steam. :smith:

Ordered one copy of the deluxe edition of Green Man Games. Everything looked fine checking out, and then the confirmation email/screen looked like this:


My credit card only shows 1 charge of (what should be correct) $41.24, but now I'm all anxious and irritated. Submitted a support ticket and am ready to contest the charge with my credit card company if they give me poo poo. :(

Don't worry, GMG is an entirely legit site, whatever went wrong here should get sorted out without hassle, especially with your credit card already charged correctly.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
I've been watching this video series. It makes a nice prologue to the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oThgqdp0ic8

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


1stGear posted:

To be clear, I wasn't criticizing the quality of translation or anything cause I got no loving idea how any of those words can be pronounced. Just the perpetual incredulous amazement that a word can look one way in English and be pronounced so radically different.

Y'all need some of God's chosen tongue: American.

Randarkman posted:

Alot of English/American people seem to be hit with some kind of moron ray the minute they see something that looks a little bit different and immediately go about thinking it's much harder than it actually is

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
I once pronounced a word by reading the letters in the order they were in, without adding or removing any.

It was awful.

Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Many native English speakers just assume every other language is as broken and nonsensical as ours, and just throw our hands up and don't even try.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

All languages are broken and nonsensical and English is not particularly outstanding in those fronts.

loving look at French. Who thought that was a good idea?

Temaukel
Mar 28, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Speaking of the UI, how hard would be to recolor the friezes and statues to look like this. I'd actually no-joke make a mod and upload it to blab blan nexus.whatthefuckname.cum

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

canepazzo posted:

To pass the time and get some more background info for the game launch later this week, I've been listening to this guy's History of Rome podcast; it's about 200 episodes, each 12-15 minutes, covering from the foundation to the fall. He starts a bit dry and kinda boring but after episode 3-4 he really gets into it and is actually an entertaining narrator. Game's period is covered from around episode 13 or so, haven't gone too far yet.

Highly recommend, podcast's also on Spotify.

Edit: has any other game ever got the endorsement of a country's official twitter? :aaa:

https://twitter.com/armenia/status/1120303285699842048

CK2 :smug:
https://twitter.com/armenia/status/1029296342500298754

Orv
May 4, 2011

deathbagel posted:

This is true, we should all convert to Esperanto!

The swatch internet time of languages.

Family Values posted:

Many native English speakers just assume every other language is as broken and nonsensical as ours, and just throw our hands up and don't even try.

Thanks for this, it's like having my brain dragged over hot coals.

Orv fucked around with this message at 07:01 on Apr 25, 2019

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Funky Valentine posted:

All languages are broken and nonsensical and English is not particularly outstanding in those fronts.

loving look at French. Who thought that was a good idea?
Nah, in my language A is always a, E is always ɛ as in bed and even I and Y are always just i.

TorakFade
Oct 3, 2006

I strongly disapprove


I have a day off today (national holiday) and let me tell you, being home with nothing to do, waiting for the game to release at the end of the workday sucks :mad:

Insurrectionist
May 21, 2007

Family Values posted:

Many native English speakers just assume every other language is as broken and nonsensical as ours, and just throw our hands up and don't even try.

Some lovely Poem That Thinks It Knows Better Than Me posted:

Made has not the sound of bade
What since when???

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
That poem only works when speaking in specific registers.

Communist Bear
Oct 7, 2008

Hurry up GreenManGaming.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here
Somebody has already modded in Atlantis on the release day stream.

Pyromancer
Apr 29, 2011

This man must look upon the fire, smell of it, warm his hands by it, stare into its heart

deathbagel posted:

This is true, we should all convert to Esperanto!

You think one of recommended nations in Imperator is "Matsedon"

Pharnakes
Aug 14, 2009

Fintilgin posted:

Ugh. I knew I should have gone with my gut and just ordered it off Steam. :smith:

Ordered one copy of the deluxe edition of Green Man Games. Everything looked fine checking out, and then the confirmation email/screen looked like this:


My credit card only shows 1 charge of (what should be correct) $41.24, but now I'm all anxious and irritated. Submitted a support ticket and am ready to contest the charge with my credit card company if they give me poo poo. :(

Submit a refund request and maybe they'll give you the $90.00 :v:

Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!
I ordered off GMG ( and got the collectors for £32 which is pretty amazing I'd say), I also got two copies of Stellaris pre-ordered from there before it came out.
But I wish they'd give me my code already, it's just two hours left!

Rolling Scissors
Jul 22, 2005

Turn off the fountain dear, it's just me.
Nap Ghost

Fintilgin posted:

Ugh. I knew I should have gone with my gut and just ordered it off Steam. :smith:

Ordered one copy of the deluxe edition of Green Man Games. Everything looked fine checking out, and then the confirmation email/screen looked like this:


My credit card only shows 1 charge of (what should be correct) $41.24, but now I'm all anxious and irritated. Submitted a support ticket and am ready to contest the charge with my credit card company if they give me poo poo. :(

I got the same and made a support request immediately. They answered pretty quick confirming it's a bug with the order confirmation email and checking my statement later I indeed was charged just once. Good of them to quickly respond but this kind of thing should never even happen in the first place.

Ham
Apr 30, 2009

You're BALD!

Taear posted:

I ordered off GMG ( and got the collectors for £32 which is pretty amazing I'd say), I also got two copies of Stellaris pre-ordered from there before it came out.
But I wish they'd give me my code already, it's just two hours left!

If it's any consolation there's no preload.

1.3GB download for standard edition, 2.1GB for deluxe.

Diogines
Dec 22, 2007

Beaky the Tortoise says, click here to join our choose Your Own Adventure Game!

Paradise Lost: Clash of the Heavens!

From those following more closely, how bad is the AI compared to EU4 or CK2 or *shudder* Stellaris?

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Taear
Nov 26, 2004

Ask me about the shitty opinions I have about Paradox games!

Ham posted:

If it's any consolation there's no preload.

1.3GB download for standard edition, 2.1GB for deluxe.

I'm not really after a pre-load, I just worry that I won't get it.

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