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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Finally saw this, left feeling pretty cold about the experience. I was all ready for an absurdly powerful Bond after Spectre kind of escalated him to that level, so it didn't bother me that he's effortlessly handling ridiculous amounts of guards and stuff, but I think I just felt the entire villain side of the movie was super disappointing. I guess maybe I just don't like Rami Malek, or at least I haven't enjoyed him in anything I've seen... maybe Bohemian Rhapsody made me biased for other reasons. I'm fine with a villain turning out to be Just Evil, but I just didn't get enjoyment out of his performance or the way his cult/organization was actually portrayed. For all that I completely forget the specifics of Spectre's plot, I find Christoph Waltz just endlessly watchable as a monologuing villain.

And it felt like this movie eschewed intrigue, spying, really any genuine thrills or wacky fun in favor of "everything is about James Bond personally" sad drama. Except of course the stuff with Ana de Armas, as everyone's mentioned. Her character and performance were so perfectly executed, and I guess I just felt teased that none of the rest of the movie even tried to revisit that kind of energy.

I'm not a Bond expert so I don't quite have the appreciation for specific historical callbacks, but I was generally into the Craig movies' concept of showing Bond's unavoidable progression from the gritty and brutal smaller scale to "Bond casually infiltrates secret supervillain bases to thwart genocidal plots..." it just felt like they lost track of the fun for me. It's like they knew they had to make Bond less problematic, which I'm down for, but beyond that I felt a huge clash where Bond has basically become a superhero, but also he doesn't get to enjoy himself at all. Like, it's both absurd and overly serious at the same time and the tone is just dissonant to me.

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Eddie Redmayne as the next Bond, just to piss people off

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Cast Matt Smith as the new Bond! Then, like all his movies, he ends up not actually showing up in the movie and we get the first Bond movie where Bond never appears

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Timby posted:

Spectre, especially, was unforgivable, given that it was quite literally a demo track that Sam Smith recorded in about ten minutes.
Did they get late in the process with Radiohead before bailing on that song or something?

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Looking it up, I think that was just the song "Man of War" that was actually from the 90s. That got rejected for the stupid Oscar reasons, Radiohead went back and had a go at an original Spectre song, and then the producers just thought it was too sad lol

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Ghost Leviathan posted:

I think someone thought for five minutes of the implications of a black lead played straight as a violent hedonistic sexual predator.
Yeah only white actors get to do that!!

Anyway I think it's interesting that two of ATJ's biggest roles, in Godzilla and Kickass, were as Bland American Dude. Honestly as far as I remember he was pretty badass in Outlaw King, it's just hard to separate him from that stuff

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

I somehow really liked Spectre when I first watched it, and I figure I probably shouldn't revisit it. From my point of view it was speedrunning the "serious bond to ridiculous bond" thing and I found that deeply amusing

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Cacator posted:

I can't imagine them ending the Boys on a satisfying note because of, you know, reality.
I expect it to end in some extremely pathetic sequence of self-sacrifice "wiping the slate clean" and leading to a potential future where we can all get along if we focus on unity instead of division.

(the last season was really really bad)

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Radiohead has done two better bond songs than Spectre

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Could see Jonathan Bailey pretty easily tbh

Martman
Nov 20, 2006

trevorreznik posted:

I was going to suggest Pattison but 1) he's booked as bruce wayne and 2) he's 38 somehow???
Twilight came out 17 years ago

I'm so sorry

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Martman
Nov 20, 2006

Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:

The Color Run is not an extreme form of exercise lol. It's literally a bunch of kids and non-serious runners doing the laziest 5k ever.
u got Sony'd

NBD tho

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