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Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


There's no loving way I'm rewatching all 24 earlier installments in prep, like some fans are doing. But I'm game to rewatch Craig's outings, good and bad... Does this really tie into all his earlier films with overarching story as some claim? I guess so... Seems to follow directly from Spectre, and Spectre tried to pull them all together...

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Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


Payndz posted:

As far as "how do you make an imperialist, borderline rapist 1950s throwback like James Bond relevant and aspirational today?", you have to play to his strengths: make him absolutely the coolest motherfucker in the room, with the best clothes, the sharpest one-liners and absolutely impeccable taste in everything. "Men want to be him; women want to be with him" still applies, it's just exactly what they want from him that's moved with the times. (And if as a result of that women want to be him and men want to be with him, run with it - he's a fantasy figure, after all.)

Yep, Bond should be impossibly sophisticated, able to identify the Dom Perignon vintage year with just a sip (not even smoking can dull his palate), he takes off his wetsuit and the tux underneath has nary a wrinkle and his hair is perfect etc. Don't really see that sort of stuff in Craig's movies, or in other modern action/spy movies.


happyhippy posted:

Give Bond some decent loving gadgets in future.

This too.

Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


chitoryu12 posted:

Yeah, I did a goldmined thread covering all the original Fleming books. They’re pretty radically different from the normal “common knowledge” about them.

Link? TIA

Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


QoS is I think the shortest of the Craig Bonds, so it has that going for it

Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


It's the opening credits music in Dr No.

Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


I grew up watching Thunderball on television, and the commercial breaks disguised how boring it is. You watch a bit of it, and when you start to get antsy, the commercial comes and you can walk away and do stuff for a few minutes, refreshes you before you get back into it. When I finally saw it straight through, commercial-free, I was surprised at how it drags in places.

Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


Yeah another Octopussy fan here, although perhaps I'm biased by a Maud Adams infatuation.

I also like MWTGG more than most Bond fans, but this has nothing to do with Maud. (I don't really even associate her with this film and I'm always a bit surprised when I see her name in the opening credits... "Oh yeah... I forgot she's in this..."). What I like about MWTGG is Christopher Lee, a fantastic Bond villain who is able to salvage the movie for me unlike Michael Lonsdale or Christopher Walken (both great but I hate their entries). Nick Nack is fun too.

Also, it was a nice return to a more typical Bond format after the very weird Live And Let Die. (I am old :corsair:; you sorta had to be there as they were coming out.)

EDIT: Don't mean to imply that I think MWTGG is good. It IS sub-par; it's just not the worst. Octopussy, though, is kinda ok for Moore entry?

Sir Nose fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Sep 23, 2022

Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


Barudak posted:

View to a Kill is actually up next for me in my Bond watch and Im dreading old Roger Moore trying to stunt his way through this.

I think Bond has always been funny and a bit pithy, but The World is Not Enough has some bits where it goes a little extra. The bit where Valentin's factory collapses after he says he still has the walls is goofy, but to immediately follow it up with "my insurance will never believe this" is too much and wasting the superior joke to have it come second.

I really think the films weakness Denise Richards casting aside, is if Renard had just been "a terrorist who has no qualms left now that he is slowly dying" and we let some of the jokes breathe just a bit more we'd be having real arguments for it being Brosnans best film.

Probably gonna be favorite Bond kill quip ever with Elektra though.

I never understood the elevated love for Goldeneye. Sure it was pretty good, but it wasn't all that great, kinda dull in spots and in my mind not significantly different enough from the other Brosnans to merit its status. Glad to read some positive takes on Brosnan's other, usually derided, outings.

Edited to spell Brosnan's name correctly.

Sir Nose fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Nov 17, 2024

Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

I doubt many people even remember All Time High (Octopussy), good or bad because it just has no staying power, much like the movie it's associated with.

I remember All Time High, it actually got played on the radio a lil bit. Now, Moonraker that's the one I have no active memory of, it never got played on the radio (at least in my part of the world).

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Sir Nose
Mar 28, 2009


https://www.the-sun.com/tv/13910963/amazon-james-bond-young-casting/

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