|
Imagine if they let Bond have fun again
|
#
¿
Jun 28, 2022 01:58
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 20, 2025 00:49 |
|
|
But does the world still need deniable wet work done illegally on foreign soil on behest of Western Governments?
|
|
#
¿
Jun 28, 2022 03:33
|
|
|
Yes
|
|
#
¿
Jun 28, 2022 06:14
|
|
|
View to a Kill is fun bad , whereas moonraker and octopussy are bad bad. For Your Eyes Only is the best Moore though.
|
|
#
¿
Jul 31, 2022 21:51
|
|
|
The one thing I'll give Octopussy is his love interest is in the same Area Code as his age instead of being the age of his granddaughter. Moonraker suffers from being imo the worst directed of all Bond films. It's plot is undercooked and the acting pretty bad, but the worst part is how tepid the direction and shot composition is. Nobody wants to go Rio after seeing it in this movie, the space sets look completely amateurish compared to it's contemporaries, Venice looks dull, the whole movie lacks any flair or panache. It's a movie made to cash in on the SciFi craze and it feels like it.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 1, 2022 07:48
|
|
|
He should be a dude In a nice suit driving a cool car and doing wet work for the queen. Literally all anyone's asked for
|
|
#
¿
Aug 9, 2022 20:45
|
|
|
Lobok posted:"Now James, Q Branch has managed to devise a time machine, and--" Already better than any craig
|
|
#
¿
Aug 9, 2022 20:58
|
|
|
gently caress that nerd poo poo
|
|
#
¿
Aug 10, 2022 16:01
|
|
|
Canada's the only country in NA he hasn't visited right? They should get on that.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 11, 2022 18:23
|
|
|
Tenet is the apex of Nolan being unable to mix sound for poo poo, I didn't understand anything anyone was saying in that movie
|
|
#
¿
Aug 25, 2022 16:03
|
|
|
Goldeneye holds up very well. People deriding it haven't actually played it, or haven't in decades but still feel the need to chime in.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 13, 2022 17:56
|
|
|
They say this everytime I've never really got the hate for Thnderball. The underwater sequences are slow, but are also pretty interestingly filmed and filled with tension. The scenery is gorgeous, one of the best looking classic bonds easily. The festival escape is one of the best "social" escapes in the series behind only the winters festival escape in OHMSS. Fiona Volpe is one of the best female henches, Largo is a great villain who manages to feel like someone whose incredibly powerful in a criminal organization but is also terrified of his boss, and the whole thing feels vaguely plausible and has some good actual spycraft that really starts falling out of the series by the next movie.
|
|
#
¿
Sep 22, 2022 23:13
|
|
|
NTTD is bad, but so are a few of the movies. Its exacerbated by the incredible fatigue of having to wait so drat long for it and for being stuck with Craig for so long. It does still have a few good parts like the Ana de armas scènes, but as a whole it's only worth one watch. Personally I'm going with From Russia with Love, been a minute since I've seen it. Hyped to see that opening and the train fight again. Gonna save OHMSS for Christmas like usual, and maybe do a mini marathon of all the Connery's over my vacation
|
|
#
¿
Oct 6, 2022 01:01
|
|
|
Conversely the awful score in For Your Eyes Only drags what would be a top five Bond into the tens.
|
|
#
¿
Oct 6, 2022 04:08
|
|
|
pretty soft girl posted:Actually the bill conti disco score loving owns Only person I ever seen say that the most serious Moore needed the cheesiest soundtrack
|
|
#
¿
Oct 6, 2022 19:22
|
|
|
Goldeneye is "The Experience of Love". Mystery of Love is one of the songs Kanye sampled for Fade
|
|
#
¿
Oct 6, 2022 21:47
|
|
|
I'm not a big score guy, but I didn't remember Goldeneye standing out at all. Just the slide whistle in Golden Gun and For Your Eyes Onlys Conti score
|
|
#
¿
Oct 7, 2022 02:28
|
|
|
He was the best part of Bullet Train, I hope to god whoever they cast that they don't go back to the same poo poo Craig's Bonds were doing.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 18, 2022 00:09
|
|
|
Dalton deserved more films, dude killed it in both of his appearances and managed to do darker better than Craig while also actually being able to pull off the humor. That said, the next script they had looked like a total trashfire and I'm glad he got to go out on a highnote
|
|
#
¿
Dec 22, 2022 23:32
|
|
|
thrawn527 posted:I said this briefly in my old Bond rewatch thread, but to expand on it, I thought Dalton should have taken over at least one movie earlier. A View to a Kill is by no means a great movie, but it has some great stuff in there, and I think a lot of its problems can be traced back to tonal issues. Mainly the Roger Moore era butting up against the new, darker era that was coming. Moore even said that he disliked the darker, violent tone the movie took. Plus Moore was clearly too old. I think bringing Dalton in on that movie would have solved a ton of problems with it, and made it a well remembered movie. I don't think you're wrong that Dalton would've improved View to a kill, but I think it would make for a worse run as bond for him. Introducing him in more grounded East vs. West plot where real spycraft is being done simultaneously with the goofy super spy stuff puts you on much more even ground for his further films. If you start with View, you end up in the same situation Moore was in with For Your Eyes Only where he is being a more grounded spy, but your mental picture of it is tainted by the goofyness of Live and Let Die and the others. If we want to get really hypothetical I think the best would've been. Intro Dalton in Living Daylights, then License to Kill, then View to a Kill third instead of the awful China script.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 23, 2022 03:09
|
|
|
Just got back from seeing Pathaan, if you cats are struggling for some Spy nonsense to fill the void in your hearts you could do far worse than it. The director lifted drat near every action set piece from either Bond, MI, or seemingly MGSV. It's got almost no location shooting as far as I could tell, and the CGI is Spy Kids tier, but it makes up for it with a ton of heart and and a plot that takes itself seriously instead of winking at the audience constantly.
|
|
#
¿
Jan 26, 2023 02:21
|
|
|
Dalton is going to get a reappraisal here soon, I can feel it.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 27, 2023 16:05
|
|
|
They do Felix dirty, but it does give you enough emotional stakes to believe that Bond would burn his MI6 life just to get revenge. And goddamn is it fun watching Dalton thread the needle in the crew between making himself look trustworthy and subtly increasing the paranoia to break Sanchez's crew. It's also got some of the craziest stunts and action, with the plane being downed that Nolan borrowed later, explosive decompression, the tanker chase, and one of the best final kills in the franchise with the wedding lighter lighting Sanchez up.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 27, 2023 17:32
|
|
|
Matinee posted:I've heard that For Your Eyes Only was written with Dalton in mind because Moore hadn't renegotiated his contract yet. MrMojok posted:What’s great about Dalton is that he’s handsome and charming and all that, but there is this coldness, a kind of possible brutality there, just below the surface. Very Fleming-esque. It's great because he can do the psychotic cold blooded killer thing as well as Craig, but also pull off the humor and gaiety that Craig was fully incapable of. Man just got hosed by where his movies were in the culture rather than what they were.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 28, 2023 03:40
|
|
|
I think I prefer the novelty of unique Artists, however they've been on a real losing streak for awhile except Adele.
|
|
#
¿
Jun 28, 2023 19:49
|
|
|
Twine is criminally underrated.
|
|
#
¿
Jul 6, 2023 14:20
|
|
|
15.Tomorrow Never Dies It becomes more relevant every day doesn't it. 14. Quantum of Solace The loosest the franchise ever got on account of circumstances. Kind like it like that. It's like Cruises character from Collateral directed a film. 13. Live and Let Die Absurd in a great way. 12.TWINE Criminally underrated. The final fight and some of the gadgetry was too goofy but Elektra King as the villain was perfect. I even love how she was going after M not Bond. The final punchline is so loving dumb it becomes hilarious. 11. Dr. No Practical spying, beautiful location, a cool base. The film feels half way to a perfect bond Film and it was the first released. And as a bonus it doesn't step on any of the landmines that the rest of the franchise does. 10. Goldfinger It's good, but I don't get the legendary status. Oddjob is my boy though. I'd let him hench for me anytime. 9.You Only Live Twice Turning Connery Japanese is so absurd it gets a hearty laugh. Tiger Tanakas dubber owns super hard. We get the classic volcano base, love that helicopter shot as the men are chasing him on the roof of the building. Maybe the best opening scene in bond? 8.For Your Eyes Only God I wish Moore had more films like this and less goofy poo poo. Him kicking that car off the cliff was ice cold. 7.Casino Royale Mads is one of the best villains wasted in a movie that's half Bourne half bad poker. Eva Green saves the film, and then dooms it by dragging it out for five endings. Worse in retrospect after everything it set up ended up being so lame. 6.Goldeneye Sean Beans character remains the best Bond but Bad in the franchise. Especially over jokerlites like Silva. 5.License to Kill Man deserved another film 4.Thunderball I'm like the only person who loves this movie. I love largo, Fiona Volpe is the first time the seductress actively worked VS bond. Domino is one of the hottest bond girls. The scene with Bond fleeing Mardis Gras is suitably tense and présages some of the more Interesting scenes we get in OHMSS 3.Living Daylights Would be above Russia of the last act was slightly shorter. Skiing on the cello case remains one of the best gags on the series despite being in one of the most grounded films. 2.From Russia with Love The perfect classic bond. Beautiful women, semi realistic spying, exotic locales. 1.OHMSS Best action in the assault on the compound. Blofeld and Tracy are absolutely perfect, incredibly dynamic all the way through. Much more grounded than the films had gotten
|
|
#
¿
Jul 30, 2023 02:11
|
|
|
You can watch the remake of the Thomas Crown Affair and tell he could pull off Bond fine. He just had poorly written and directed films compared to his predecessors.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 4, 2023 22:43
|
|
|
Octopussy has the best Moore love interest imo. Going from her to the girl young enough to be his granddaughter in View to a Kill is rough.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 24, 2023 17:26
|
|
|
And it remains the last good thing she's done in film.
|
|
#
¿
Aug 24, 2023 22:32
|
|
|
Moore's films have a lot of good moments and characters but rarely are cohesive and coherent enough to be good. Sad really, he was good when he was younger
|
|
#
¿
Dec 4, 2023 00:46
|
|
|
Craig really overstayed his welcome especially with how long his movies took to come out. Does not help that his first movie was an intro, the second a fumbled continuation of the intro, and then he has three films that are trying to send him off. The dude never had a chance to be prime Bond only newbie Bond and Too Tired for this poo poo Bond
|
|
#
¿
Dec 4, 2023 03:53
|
|
|
My judgement of the newer films has also been impacted heavily by how much better the YRF and Mission Impossible movies have been. MI has always been its own thing generally so it's not in the convo as much despite being the most obvious competition but the YRF spy universe despite borrowing liberally from other films, is way more fun and exhilarating than what Bonds been on lately. And those movies are coming out yearly.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 4, 2023 03:57
|
|
|
thrawn527 posted:My favorite part of the movie (outside of the opening song), is when the lead villain, Zorin, has a meeting with some investors, and one guy wants out. Do you not always assume scenes are set on blimps? Without contradictory information I always assume characters are within or around a blimp.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 4, 2023 22:59
|
|
|
DarkSol posted:
As Bond. OHMSS is the peak of the films
|
|
#
¿
Dec 6, 2023 02:59
|
|
|
FYEO is almost annoying because it shows how incredible Moore's run could have been if he had better, less goofy writing and directors. It's still by and by far Moore's best film although I wouldn't rate it over Daltons 2 OHMSS or From Russia or Thunderball. I'm probably the biggest Thunderball fan in the thread though
|
|
#
¿
Dec 6, 2023 06:53
|
|
|
F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Better than Spy Who Loved Me? That's a genuine question because that's generally seen as one of his best movies. It is good, though, if a bit forgettable. I've never vibes with that film at all. I'd rate it at the bottom of Moore's run along with Moonraker if I'm honest.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 6, 2023 18:38
|
|
|
Then he drinks a bud with lime in License to Kill lol.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 6, 2023 19:28
|
|
|
Red Grant remains the best anti-bond the franchise has done. That opening leading to the whole cat and mouse game until Bond cooly but barely manages a win
|
|
#
¿
Dec 6, 2023 20:12
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 20, 2025 00:49 |
|
|
Apparently Brits thought it was a loving riot.
|
|
#
¿
Dec 6, 2023 20:20
|
|