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I've gotta see those MST3k eps. I've seen a smattering, but missed a few classics. Gotta love 007. For me the only ones I haven't seen are Octopussy, Living Daylights (saw part of it), and then I'm all set. Well, not including the half-official ones. Also I didn't finish Thunderball a couple times over the years, so asterisk on that one. Overall the Moore era is my fav, with the Gold entries from Connery and Brosnan being in my top 10 too. And I love Casino Royale (the newer one). It's cool that the Hitman devs are making a 007 game too.
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Davros1 posted:Here's Operation Kid Brother/Operation Double 007: Thanks! Last MST3k I popped on was Zombie Nightmare with Thor, a metal hero of mine. This Pumaman sounds like quite the hero himself too. Here's a question for the Bond thread. Any other fav spy or 007 adventure feeling movies you're a fan of? Or anything in that ballpark? I love the Lupin the Third franchise, which has a lot of Bond in it's DNA. Castle of Cagliostro is a great gateway into that for example. Island of Assassins (aka In Memory of the Walther P38) is one of the more 007 feeling ones. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 08:49 on May 31, 2021 |
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Thanks for the recs! I've gotta watch that Pumaman ep asap. A few of the top mst3k eps I've seen: Overdrawn at the Memory Bank (movie might just rule anyway), Mitchell, Pod People, Hobgoblins, and Godzilla vs Megalon (again - movie rules).
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Davros1 posted:Check out Angels Revenge. It might be my favorite MST3K Awesome, will do! And yep I've seen the Diabolik ep, good stuff. I've been meaning to try that movie itself sometime too. Just now I was looking at a wiki that mentions Body Movin' by the Beastie Boys video is based on that, I forgot about that. Pretty ill. And now a random Bond opinion: Quantum of Solace is really really underrated. Or at least, I like it. The Bourne era shaky cam isn't my fav, and the overall plot and villains etc is just ok, but something about the adventure, and Olga K's sidekick Bond girl etc just makes for a cool ride. It aimed low, and for me landed respectably.
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I have the first Modesty Blaise book version on my goodreads list, mainly because Vince is reading it in Pulp Fiction. I love some pulpy older comics (Judge Dredd starting in 77 etc), never read any Blaise. Are you fans of mainly the comic version, or the novel version as well? Speaking of spies and Tarantino, I got that Berlin Game book on the shelf mainly since QT mentioned being a fan of it and wanting to film it. Plus Lemmy was also a fan of that author, always good.
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Requisite ramble from rube who hasn't seen movie yet, here I go:Total Meatlove posted:They always have been. This film quotes You Only Live Twice a lot? I saw that for the first time earlier this year, solid stuff. Haven't seen this new one yet, just curious if you mean they're literally saying lines from the movie's script, or just quoting like a song would, using bits or beats from that movie? Also I read a couple lines of spoiler post, and wowsers. The biological weapon thing, a'la foxdie in MGS, I still can hardly even believe what I just read. It just seems crazy that this level of anime tragedy would happen to James Bond here. Also, it is kinda weird and funny I guess that they would plagiarize/borrow a pretty unique idea like that. Either way, as with all spoilers that are too crazy to be true, but are, glad I learned it kind of accidentally/sloppily on my part reading the threads. I think this takes the shock value away, so I could just judge it as is. But tough to say. Bond has only gone full anime when his bride fades away into glitter to save the world. Wait that happens too doesn't it don't tell me. And let's put a tragic timeloop where somebody forgets they fell in love with James, or something. Let's go nuts. I guess this could also be a bit Wrath of Khan, but that's usually reserved for sidekick sacrifices. And I jest a bit, naturally HK heroic bloodshed movies have a lot of tragic hero sacrifices as well. But a bit rare to see in this 007 style context. And I love anime. Still, I look forward to seeing this, and spoilers this big I'm generally gonna find out before the home release anyway. Too big to be secret for long. Also, gonna spoiler a Godzilla movie in here too, speaking of the often mentioned Bond / Godzilla longevity rivalry. If done well, perhaps this movie is the Godzilla vs Destoroyah of Bond movies. Since the beloved heroic Godzilla kicks the bucket in that one. Necrothatcher posted:Hideo Kojima is going to be over the moon when he sees this movie. Gotta love Hideo. Going by his twitter he seems to love just about everything, and I dig his enthusiasm. OK, I'll ask one spoiler question. Does Bond get busy? Does he get one or two suitable mates in the sack? Does he get that folks? Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:Spy movies in general feel like they are up there with cowboy movies for just not being a viable thing anymore unless you make a weird artsy deconstruction or a parody and James Bond is never going to do that. Those Mission Impossible movies are by the book modern cliche spy movies, those seem to do well, at least financially. You'd figure somebody doing it a bit more unique and cool than those could work really well. Or take say John Wick. Uses well worn genre conventions, but has a fresh feel to it. Has some tongue in cheek aspects but not quite a parody deconstruction thing, it has sincerity. I think there's still room in just about every genre. But you want a twist or two on convention, or something that feels unique to that movie. The action thriller I don't think will ever expire, so one with a slick agent versus a supervillain or evil organization etc seems pretty evergreen as well. Also, in Japan we've got Lupin the Third! Thief with a heart of gold who happens into many Bond-esque adventures. Though more comedy for sure. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Oct 2, 2021 |
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Frasier rules!Owlofcreamcheese posted:At some point once something was at some point big enough you can just profitably put it out forever, this is how season 30 of simpsons and 43 years of garfield comics get made. No one on earth though 'the predator" was a good movie but it still got 159 million out of a 88 million dollar budget because people once liked predator movies. Just for the record, I love The Predator. Kooky suburban adventure comedy Predator with Key, with that clever Black/Dekker vibe, so up my alley. Just a loose inventive off the wall genre movie, like they don't tend to make anymore. So underrated, but understandable that it's not everyone's cup of tea. I'd say a good bit better than Predators. But I do very much dislike the AvP movies, I'm not totally crazy. And I concur on what you're saying about these conglomerates just greenlighting known name things etc. Agreed that Bond is evergreen and we need more cool Bond movies, and also Hideo Kojima should be a consultant. And get Nic Cage as the new Q.
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Nice to see another Quantum fan here. I'm not too into the shaky cam trend, but a cool offbeat flick, and Olga was owning.
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Honest Thief posted:I get they sorta had to but being so devoted to being a spectre sequel brought the movie down a bit, also had they cut it a bit closer in runtime would have made a better flick but liked it better than spectre But not that Fragile! (I just wanted to use her catch phrase.) When is this hitting the streaming scene, or at least send me an Oscar screener, I'll vote. I'll watch some stuff for Bond.
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For Your Eyes Only gotta be in my top 5 themes. That rules. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkYjmQOBUwI (Fav Bond cover)
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That Ana part did rock. Especially after a fairly serious somber beginning, a tuxedo closet innuendo zone was like we stepped into another dimension. A good one I'd say. Anyhoo, saw this last night, pretty solid decent fun, not bad, kinda cool. Tough to rate something that I find just pretty ok. When Casino Royale hit, that was one of the coolest movies ever, plus I was 20, clearly prime time to be blown away by that. Not to say I've lost interest or whatever, but there is just not as much of a connection by far in this movie for me. It has its moments, but it feels kind of detached and cold a little, like it's going through the motions a bit. But not entirely, some bits do land at least fairly well, and I really did care about Lea's character and that romance and whatnot. Pretty epic vintage Hollywood vibe to that, and she just knocked it out of the park. Some of the action was cool, a few very stylish standout moments. Overall with Bond taking cover and firing a machine gun tactically like a Tom Clancy character, just not quite as flashy as movie Bond could be in my imagined version. I feel when it's so heightened, you might as well go for it all the time, not just in the crazy set pieces. But overall some solid action adventure. The dialogue is probably the weak spot for me overall. There are a lot of movies that have this style, where people talk in very short sentences, and always call back to and rhyme with things people said earlier. It just doesn't feel like there are a lot of really in the moment conversations, that really connect with me. So you're sort of taking it all in from a distance I guess is the vibe. Directing is a factor too, though I enjoyed the style at times, and of course True Detective did rule hard. I like what they went for with the overall character story direction for Bond, and the ending was fairly well done I feel. And for sure, people weren't kidding, tons of fun for Hideo Kojima fans watching this. Just Hideo all over the place. They should've let him be in the writer's room. Even a memorable ladder scene! Thumbs somewhere in an upward direction. LionArcher posted:In honor of the insane screen draft podcast, I think it's time the thread ranks the Bond films... Right on, good luck. I've still got three or so to watch. I'm not a bad enough dude to rank it all, I'd also want to have rewatched them. But I will say GoldenEye is too good, and Spy Who Loved Me is highly artisanal and quality grade filmmaking. Goldfinger, it's the shiznit. How about a 007 vs Lupin the Third ranking. Island of Assasins aka Walther P38 would go down pretty smooth for Bond fans in here I'd say. And everybody needs to see Castle of Cagliostro. Lupin has even more movies than Bond (counting TV movies), pretty prolific son of a gun. Oh yeah, one more thing about No Time to Die. That one-liner moment, the mind-blowing one.. It is too good. I know various trends and styles are cyclical, but genuinely, we can clearly have over-the-top one-liners in a serious film. It is just right, and time has shown it's an art form that will never die. Similarly, in stuff like Halloween (2018), the one-liner at the end Happy Halloween, Michael, it just knocks my socks off. I think much like the dark time when the Ninja Turtles would not say "cowabunga" in their cartoons, history will come to show that some things were indeed just always good. The one-liner is one of them. It is the very lifeblood of the universe. In Cosmos, Carl Sagan said we're all made of "star stuff". I think the truly star stuff, is a well delivered one-liner in a movie. But I digress. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Nov 14, 2021 |
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This occured to me when people said Idris is too old etc. Let's have a Bond roulette period for the next 15 years. One or two movies per Bond, start with Idris, maybe a Tom Hardy, whoever, just make some great movies. Plus, in general especially with Marvel movies lately, sometimes they don't feel like they're bringing it all, making the best movie they can. More like it's getting the ball rolling for the next movie. At least I felt that way about Shang-Chi lately. So I say just make the best Bond movie you can, and get some cool casting like Idris, that's better than trying to do an episodic plot with Bond I think. Also, maybe this goes without saying, but I don't think we want another origin story or first mission. Kind of like how we wouldn't want another movie of Spider-Man getting his powers. Roll with a Bond who is experienced, and it could just bounce around his career with a slightly looser continuity. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Nov 19, 2021 |
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Just watched Octopussy, that's a really classic flick right there. Saw The Living Daylights last week, very good stuff, Timothy slayed. So now I've seen every EON Bond movie, feels pretty good. My journey is complete. Also both these movies had terrific titular lines, some of the best. https://youtu.be/3J8PJ2ZtypI?t=50 (Octopussy) https://youtu.be/BnBeUvDdsb0?t=32 (Living Daylights)
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Always cool to hear about Fleming and the books. Entertainment history is cool stuff. I'll say for me, I love the Bond movie series, it's been hugely influential and has its own vibe to it. I'd enjoy seeing more stuff in this kind of spy adventure fantasy genre. I'm a big fan of Lupin the Third, which is heavily influenced by that kind of thing. That's a franchise in Japan that's been going strong for a long time. A Bond fan might dig some of those movies, Island of Assassins for example. Castle of Cagliostro by Miyazaki being a great gateway movie. And that series is also a bit like Bond in that the screen adaptation is a lot different from the written one, and has a wider appeal I think.
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I liked QoS, shaky cam not withstanding. Olga was owning. Here's my ranking of the Roger Moore bonds! 1. The Spy Who Loved Me 2. Octopussy 3. For Your Eyes Only 4. Live and Let Die 5. The Man with the Golden Gun 6. A View to a Kill 007. Moonraker I know Moonraker fans, I hear ya, and the laser gun is great on Nintendo 64.
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For sure, there are a lot of possible tones, and various nuances on how to play with all the elements. A good example is John Wick. The first one especially has a tone that seems to resonate with a wide array of people. It can be genuinely sad with the setup and him reflecting on his wife and life etc. It also has a stylized and heightened tone and world that is a little knowingly campy, in a very sharp and pleasing way. I also love John Wick 2, which does up the humor a bit, and I still like 3 which feels a little less tight and more spectacle-y. Not to say a James Bond movie needs that exact mix or anything. I would like a James Bond movie to be unrealistic, not aiming for grounded, and not minding having humor and some one liners. While also being genuinely compelling and cool. But that varies for everyone.
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A page with words like GoldenEye, Duke, Nukem, and Quake, that's a good page. I look forward to playing one of these GoldenEye official ports, been a long time. GoldenEye Source was a fun multiplayer mod. Man James Bond rules. Tarantino's new podcast The Video Archives has an episode with a lot of Moonraker discussion, and a bonus one with even more that they cut out. Funny stuff. I'm with Roger Avery on thinking Roger Moore Bond rules, but I'm with Tarantino on not being big on Moonraker. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Sep 19, 2022 |
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James Bond owns. Good to see fans of the Roger Moore movies, those are good times. I've been meaning to rewatch For Your Eyes Only, I'll keep an ear out for Conti. I definitely enjoy the GoldenEye soundtrack.
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That rules. I love all the 80s ones a lot (other than A View to a Kill - great song though).
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Absolutely, he rules. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnBeUvDdsb0&t=32s
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The best parts of GI Joe Retaliation are Cobra Commander and President Zartan (Bond villain Jonathan Pryce)! Love me some fun villains, great comic stuff created by Larry Hama who still writes that book today! Agreed the movie is a mixed bag, but those Joe movies are worth a watch.
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James Bond is coooool, let's hope they make a cool movie here folks. I haven't heard about that 007 game from the Hitman team in a while, that sounded good.
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CelticPredator posted:They won’t make a good movie. Definitely the corpos making a movie, it's always a roll of the dice. These producers don't tell me much, mainly franchise movies like Spider-Man and Harry Potter, but hey that guy Heyman was a producer on Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, and Juice. Those were cool! And I haven't followed the hubbub mentioned above, sorry to hear if someone lame IRL got the gig. So I guess my point there is just, some cool movies have a laundry list of lame producers. Sometimes with these projects, commercial as they may be, fun artistic ideas happen to align because they think it'll be a hit. And they make a good movie against the odds. So I tend to give it an optimistic chance, until they release stuff that looks lame and whatnot. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 09:14 on Mar 26, 2025 |
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Godzilla looks great, I don't care how old he is. On the Young Bond thing, the older actors thing doesn't bother me, and they're usually better actors and also cooler when older. Daniel Craig was 38 in Casino Royale, and I never felt he's been too old to play Bond, plus they really took their time putting out some of these sequels. Dalton was 41 etc. RDJ was in his 40s for Iron Man. And lets not forget Keanu at 49 for John Wick. (I'm also 38  )
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James Bond is cool. Black Bag is a kind of fun spy related movie that's out. Also Lupin the Third is the James Bond franchise of Japan I'd say, only with even more comedy, but yeah always recommended. Has a new anime movie hitting soon. Give us some cool fun spy adventures with Bond. So many people making movies love it, it's gotta be doable. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 02:23 on Apr 6, 2025 |
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Gaius Marius posted:Golgo 13 is closer to Bond than Lupin I don't feel that way, but I thought of giving that a shout-out too. I think the movies of Bond and the movies / feature length TV specials of Lupin are very comparable, adventure in that Bond-y way. And Golgo is more cold and stuff, though with some dark comedy, and specific in its focus on villains in a Columbo kind of procedural vibe etc, and to me a bit less of what I'm thinking of. Maybe more comparable to book Bond in tone etc. What I enjoy about the Bond thing and Bond movie influenced media, I get that more from Lupin. And I was saying the franchise rather than the character, also Golgo doesn't have many movies in comparison, especially in recent decades. I can see how on paper you'd say the main characters are more similar with Golgo for sure. Either way, I'd rather say check them both out. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 02:40 on Apr 6, 2025 |
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CelticPredator posted:
Right on, I haven't seen that since renting it as a kid. Didn't quite make the list to revisit, but always curious to retry stuff. Planning to rewatch a bunch of them soon though.
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I liked Spectre, not great but a little better for me than some other Craig ones. Only saw it at the theater, felt it was a bit laidback and slow paced, but more like a classic Bond movie to me in some ways. Found Blofeld pretty middle of the road, didn't mind it, about what I'd expect from a reboot. And I dig Lea, thought she worked, as much chemistry there as I'd expect in most of these. Craig bond just has a serious pained face all the time like Golgo 13 does (especially in bed). Seydoux is doing her thing as ever, Death Stranding style. More memorable for me than her Mission Impossible character anyway. I'll say, Thunderball is the toughest watch for me of the classic Connery run. It has a lot of cool stuff, fun characters, I like the villain gal etc. But it's just a chore to watch for me, like it takes several tries to get through it. Especially the underwater action. And it's tough to follow up Goldfinger, for me head and shoulders above any other Connery Bond. Even though I appreciate the Connery run for history and importance, and OHMSS, my favs are the Moore era and Dalton, honorable mention to Casino Royale (06) and GoldenEye, and of course Goldfinger. Not a big fan of A View to a Kill and Moonraker is a mixed bag for me (which I still try and rewatch), but I love every other Moore one. Just really entertaining movies. The Spy Who Loved Me is easily the best movie in history. I haven't watched most of these for many years. Put together a playlist of 17 out of the official 25 to rewatch in the next few months. Including all the Brosnan and Craig ones, which I mainly saw just once (except the first ones). I'll let you fine folks know what I think of these watches. Diamonds are Forever and OHMSS which I haven't seen since probably VHS are on the list for sure, just out of curiosity. OHMSS is one I really respected but still gave a 6/10 on imdb, felt like a 60s melodrama of the time, but certainly had epic stuff and a cool ending. I have changed my take quite a bit on decades later rewatches though, usually upping the score a bit. Mainly skipping ones I have rewatched in the past few years, so half the Moore ones, the Daltons, some Connery. Will hit those on the next go. Still rewatching Goldfinger and Octopussy though, being perfect film. Also I just bought the Octopussy blu-ray for 9 bucks. Here's a question, since I'm in the mood to read some Bond takes. Anyone here read any of the Bond forums out there? Just did a search and there are a bunch of somewhat active Bond forums. Classic internet, I actually signed up for SitcomsOnline a while ago to talk about Laverne & Shirley and stuff. It's just the thing to do. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Apr 22, 2025 |
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Octopussy is one of the all time greats for me, very unique mix but very my jam. I do dig Live and Let Die as well, those are both in my top 10 Bond movies.
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I know this one, All Time High is the second best one. Really, every 80s Bond theme rules, all great summer jam mix material. I have put Live and Let Die on mixes but one friend protests, the song is too powerful and bombastic for some barbecues apparently.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:All Time High sucks. Nobody Does It Better, Live and Let Die and View To A Kill are the best Moore-era ones. One thing I love about Bond, and I've cruised some Bond forums, everything can easily be ranked in any order. What a varied and awesome series. But yeah I love All Time High a lot.
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Lobok posted:I like All Time High as a song but it's never sounded particularly Bond-y to me. And not all Bond songs have that musical quality but they'll usually make up for it with the lyrics. ATH wisely avoids using the movie title in its lyrics but it also doesn't have any other kind of oblique reference or subject that might clue you in. It could be any soft love song from the period. It is written by John Barry though, and sounds to me more epic and nuanced/cinematic in some ways than a comparable radio song. But everyone gets something different out of music. I'd say sounding different for a Bond theme is part of what I find cool about it. And I do think Batman Begins and Casino Royale have a lot in common for sure too. A cool time for the well done gritty yet lovable reboot. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Apr 27, 2025 |
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Colostomy Bag posted:"All Time High" is a godawful song. A. It rules. B. I don't know what's up with SA, but it's strange that I just mention I dig a song (and rank it 2nd fav of Moore themes) and everyone who doesn't like the song has to say it sucks. Can you name some other songs you think sucks so it isn't dogpiling? Just seems odd 3 people have stopped by to say the song sucks. Anyways, it's taste, it's music, I don't know what we're gonna get out of this.
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Right on, I can dig folks. I'm just saying, I did join the Commander Bond forums lately, and it's pretty positive vibes on there. And my silly take on context, I just feel sure say some rules, say it sucks. But quoting someone just to say a song they like sucks, without much more than saying it sucks, it feels kind of negative or something. I'm not an expert.
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 This is what I've got going on in another thread. Music is very personal to us all. I can't believe someone said gently caress Yub Nub, just sharing it here because it's kinda funny and topical. Also, I'm rewatching Diamonds are Forever (paused for a moment), pretty wild stuff so far, enjoying it for sure.
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James Bond is pretty cool. Agreed the Dalton ones are some of the best.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Called forums. Everyone has a different opinion so if you make one, well we might have another. I am all for opinions, I was just sharing my opinion on this niche subject of forum communication. Seemed odd that nobody was commenting negatively on any other song, and a random deep cut song I liked just had several people saying "it sucks" or "it's awful" etc. And say you were talking to someone at a party, right? If they said "All Time High is one of my favs", would you just say "it's a godawful song" like in your post? Or would you maybe find a more friendly way to get it across? Anyways, communication. We have different opinions on that too, which should be okay with you. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Apr 29, 2025 |
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