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AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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I recently watched through them with my son, and I just could not get into Thunderball at all.

Since no one asked, here's my favorite from each actor:
Connery: From Russia with Love, by far.
Lazenby: OHMSS by default but it was far better than I thought it would have been.
Moore: The Spy who Loved Me, with For Your Eyes Only drawing a close second.
Dalton: License to Kill.
Brosnan: Goldeneye, by far.
Craig: Casino Royale

AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Aug 14, 2019

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AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Basebf555 posted:

But I marvel at the ridiculously inept car chase opening every single time because it's just so so bad. I know the behind the scenes reasons for why it turned out that way but it really is a sight to behold. You absolutely cannot follow any of the action at all and because the movie jumps into the scene with nothing to establish what's what, you can't even tell which car Bond is driving half the time. I think it's gotta be the unquestioned worst car chase to ever appear in a blockbuster film.
I always liked that car chase. I loved using the quarry roads as the setting, and I never had an issue with who was in what car. At 1:00 in the engine noises just absolutely exploding you into the middle of the chase was awesome in a theater.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfYC_CBNtiM
For anyone who wants to rewatch.

Edit:

Basebf555 posted:

Hey you're entitled to your opinion but man I just don't get it. I see no redeeming qualities in that scene.

I think you'll find that this is the internet, therefore my opinion is the only valid one and you should be ashamed to differ from mine.

AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Aug 14, 2019

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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I'm still waiting for "Property of a Lady" and "007 in New York" to be used.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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peekaboo gangster posted:

Now now, let's not lift up Another Way to Die like that. It belongs in the dungeon with the other no good, very bad songs, thank you very much!

Also, none of them hold a candle to Eric Serra's score for Goldeneye (another bad song redeemed by the fact that it is, far and away, the greatest piece of music associated with the film).

This one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl6D0iim7wU (if it doesn't queue up automatically, skip to :30)

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Timby posted:

The World is Not Enough is basically the quintessential "greatest hits" Bond film. I mean, Brosnan himself is a "greatest hits" Bond, but you've got a boat chase, a ski chase, a killer theme song, a charismatic villain (Robert Carlyle is the only person who is giving a gently caress in that movie), pretty women, a nuclear threat ... it ticks all the boxes.

Shame it's at least 20 minutes too long, has some really awful jokes and Denise Richards is sleepwalking through the whole thing.

I really liked Sophie Marceau in that movie. I'd easily put her up there with my favorite bond Villains, and outside of Vesper, she's probably the best love interest Bond has had as well.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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sean10mm posted:

The funny thing about Moore is that he could do menacing just fine, but didn't want to, and the movies rarely asked him.to.

The tie flip in "The Spy Who Loved Me" and him killing Drax were really the only time he seemed to be the menacing killer he was with Loque, which is kind of a shame because he really was great.

AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Sep 27, 2019

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Timby posted:

I still want to know what Danny Boyle's idea for the story was. Craig loved it, it's Broccoli and Wilson who flipped poo poo over it.

I thought it was that he wanted to kill off Bond at the end.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Another old person giving a +1 to the choice. The only one of hers that I know the name of is Bad Guy but it has a cool bass line and doesn't sound like most of the other stuff I'm hearing from what my kids listening to, so I'm in.
We all know music peaked in (date you were in high school and college) but so long as it's better than that sleepy rear end Sam Smith song I'm good.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Lobok posted:

Who was the youngest before Eilish? Tom Jones is way before my time and seems like someone who's always been old but Thunderball was released when he was 25.

Sheena Easton was 22 with For Your Eyes Only, Sam Smith was 23 for his.

I got bored at work.
code:
Movie                         Singer            age 
No Time to Die	              Billie Eilish	19
For your eyes only	      Sheena Easton	22
Spectre	                      Sam Smith	        23
Skyfall	                      Adele	        24
Thunderball	              Tom Jones	        25
Living Daylights	      Aha	        25
The Man with the Golden Gun   Lulu	        26
Dr. No	                      Byron Lee	        27
Goldfinger	              Shirley Bassey	27
You Only Live Twice	      Nancy Sinatra	27
A Veiw to a kill	      Duran Duran	27
Quantum of Solace	      Alicia Keys	27
Live and Let Die	      Paul McCartney	31
The spy who loved me	      Carly Simon	32
Casino Royale 	              Herb Alpert	32
From Russia With Love	      Matt Monro	33
The world is not enough	      Garbage	        33
Diamonds are forever	      Shirley Bassey	34
Tomorrow never dies	      Sheryl Crow	35
Octopussy	              Rita Coolidge	38
Never Say never again	      Lani Hall	        38
Moonraker	              Shirley Bassey	42
Casino Royale	              Chris Cornell	42
Die another day	              Madonna	        44
License to Kill	              Gladys Knight	45
Goldeneye	              Tina Turner	56
OHMSS	                      Louis Armstrong	68

AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jan 17, 2020

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Groovelord Neato posted:

Naturally, it's the best one.

I think out of all of them I like "The Spy Who Loved Me" and "Live and Let Die", as those are the two that stand on their own as not just theme songs, but legitimately good songs.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Colostomy Bag posted:

So worst Bond song? Hell I know sorta the most off the top of my head and am missing some but my pick goes to Octopussy.

Die another day was pretty awful.

The full list, since I had it in an earlier post:
code:
Movie                         Singer            Song
No Time to Die	              Billie Eilish	No Time to Die
For your eyes only	      Sheena Easton	For your eyes only
Spectre	                      Sam Smith	        Writings on the wall
Skyfall	                      Adele	        Spectre
Thunderball	              Tom Jones	        Thunderball
Living Daylights	      Aha	        The living daylights
The Man with the Golden Gun   Lulu	        The man with the golden gun
Dr. No	                      Byron Lee	        Three Blind Mice (instrumental)
Goldfinger	              Shirley Bassey	Goldfinger
You Only Live Twice	      Nancy Sinatra	you only live twice
A Veiw to a kill	      Duran Duran	a view to a kill
Quantum of Solace	      Alicia Keys	Another way to die
Live and Let Die	      Paul McCartney	live and let die
The spy who loved me	      Carly Simon	Nobody does it better
Casino Royale 	              Herb Alpert	Casino Royale (instrumental)
From Russia With Love	      Matt Monro	From Russia with Love
The world is not enough	      Garbage	        The world is not enough
Diamonds are forever	      Shirley Bassey	Diamonds are Forever
Tomorrow never dies	      Sheryl Crow	Tomorrow never dies
Octopussy	              Rita Coolidge	All Time high
Never Say never again	      Lani Hall	        Never say never again
Moonraker	              Shirley Bassey	Moonraker
Casino Royale	              Chris Cornell	You know my name
Die another day	              Madonna	        Die another day
License to Kill	              Gladys Knight	License to Kill
Goldeneye	              Tina Turner	Goldeneye
OHMSS	                      Louis Armstrong	We have all the time in the world
I think The Writing's on the wall is sleepy and forgettable, Die Another Day was just bad. It's tough judging the early ones because that era of music is just not my thing so I don't like a lot of them.

This is kind of unofficial because they didn't use it in the opening titles, but Surrender by KD Lang is great. I do like Sheryl Crow's, but I think this has it beat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRc4vrap5Ec

Edit:
I always thought this was a perfect Bond song too, even though it was never used as one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7gutsi1uT4

AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Feb 18, 2020

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Basebf555 posted:

This is the second time I've seen someone praise the opening chase in Quantum of Solace and I just don't get it. I mean, there are legitimate excuses for it because of the writer's strike at the time but still. It's a completely incoherent scene where half the time I can't tell if I'm seeing Bond's car of the pursuer's cars.

I'm pretty sure I defended it already, but I like it.
The pacing is pretty frantic but I have no issues figuring out which car is chasing which. I love the transition from swelling music and establishing shots to the engines just screaming and the cut immediately into the chaos of the chase.

Is it a perfect car chase? No, I've seen much better. But I've seen a hell of a lot worse.
Edit:
haha, we had pretty much the same discussion a year ago.
https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3887841&pagenumber=4&perpage=40#post497498476

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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The goldeneye score isn't completely terrible.

This isn't bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcUgh9GrOQ

This is awful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACwkQP6q1QQ

But on the other hand I think the Death of Largo (the chase music in Thunderball) was terrible too.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Darko posted:

YOLT has the space theme which is one of the most definitive Bond themes. Austin Powers and Incredibles riff in it quite well too.

The Propellerheads song "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" uses this at 5:00 as a transition, it's great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7O1_0hikl-A

Trivia for this song: Both the morse code at the beginning of the song and the bass in the second half of the song are spelling out the O-H-M-S-S

AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Oct 20, 2020

AFewBricksShy
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Zeta Acosta posted:

i really dont like craig bond


i leaning more and more to considering from russia with love as the best bond movie

It is easily the best Connery movie. I really like Casino Royale and would consider it my favorite, but I'd say From Russia with Love is as close to a tie as I can get for first place.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Aidan_702 posted:

Can we at least all agree Goldeneye is still the best theme?

As far as Bond themes go, yeah, but as far as actual songs go, I think Nobody Does it Better makes the best one with Live and Let Die as a close second.

Edit: Earlier in the thread I made a list of all of the themes, so here's some derail fodder (they are sorted by age of singer, FYI):

code:
Movie                         Singer            Song
No Time to Die	              Billie Eilish	No Time to Die
For your eyes only	      Sheena Easton	For your eyes only
Spectre	                      Sam Smith	        Writings on the wall
Skyfall	                      Adele	        Spectre
Thunderball	              Tom Jones	        Thunderball
Living Daylights	      Aha	        The living daylights
The Man with the Golden Gun   Lulu	        The man with the golden gun
Dr. No	                      Byron Lee	        Three Blind Mice (instrumental)
Goldfinger	              Shirley Bassey	Goldfinger
You Only Live Twice	      Nancy Sinatra	you only live twice
A Veiw to a kill	      Duran Duran	a view to a kill
Quantum of Solace	      Alicia Keys	Another way to die
Live and Let Die	      Paul McCartney	live and let die
The spy who loved me	      Carly Simon	Nobody does it better
Casino Royale 	              Herb Alpert	Casino Royale (instrumental)
From Russia With Love	      Matt Monro	From Russia with Love
The world is not enough	      Garbage	        The world is not enough
Diamonds are forever	      Shirley Bassey	Diamonds are Forever
Tomorrow never dies	      Sheryl Crow	Tomorrow never dies
Octopussy	              Rita Coolidge	All Time high
Never Say never again	      Lani Hall	        Never say never again
Moonraker	              Shirley Bassey	Moonraker
Casino Royale	              Chris Cornell	You know my name
Die another day	              Madonna	        Die another day
License to Kill	              Gladys Knight	License to Kill
Goldeneye	              Tina Turner	Goldeneye
OHMSS	                      Louis Armstrong	We have all the time in the world

AFewBricksShy fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Oct 7, 2021

AFewBricksShy
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Gargamel Gibson posted:

What's the context here? Why is Bond looking down "just too good"?

Look at the guy sweeping behind Bond.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Basebf555 posted:

I've always wanted to know what was going on in that guy's mind. Like, you're there on set as an extra and your thing is you're supposed to sweep the floor. Does the guy think that he's not really supposed to sweep for some reason, and they'll make it look like he was really sweeping later with movie magic? Because what he's doing is actually harder than really sweeping, so I'm not sure why he went out of his way to do it like that.

If I had to guess he was told not to really sweep because he'd be kicking up dust.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Basebf555 posted:

It's nuts to me that Rickman was making his film debut in Die Hard. It's like a baseball playing toiling in the minor leagues for 15 years, then winning the MVP when he finally gets his first shot in the majors. It's impossibly great.

That's nuts, I had no idea it was his first movie.

Payndz posted:

What's great about the McClane/Hans scene is that Hans is so good at improvising that McClane is genuinely taken in at first; look how his reaction goes from smug "I gotcha" to "wait, what the gently caress, is this guy having a panic attack?" as Hans does his don't-kill-me routine. (Remember that McClane hasn't seen Hans' face before, only the back of his head.) It takes a while before he decides that his initial instincts were correct. Even then, he never actually catches Hans out in a lie.

I posted about this recently in the Irrational Movie Moments thread, but apparently he knew Hans wasn't Bill Clay because of the watch he was wearing, which was explained in a deleted scene. (The terrorists all had the same fancy watch)

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AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

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Gaius Marius posted:

I don't think the franchise is in any worse hands with Bezos instead of Broccoli. They haven't put out a good product in a while anyways and have spent the time since NTTD dragging their feet instead of shooting a loving film. God willing someone at Amazon takes it as a pet project and we get some quality films, otherwise I always have the YRF films.

I'm in the same frame of mind as this.

Reacher is dumb fun, Fallout was enjoyable, Mr. and Mrs. Smith was actually really good.

I didn't see it but I've heard Saltburn was very good, unfortunately that's the end of good movies that I've seen them make, but Spectre, No Time to Die, and even Skyfall were just okay, so I'm not going to assume it's going to be complete poo poo, but hoping that it's at least at the same level we're at already which isn't that high of a bar.

Give me a Bond movie set in the 50's, or a 00 series continuing Lashana Lynch's character, I'm at least tentatively in.

In fairness I thought the same about the Lord of the Rings getting bought by them and :lol: so I'm not holding my breath either.

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