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Colonel Cancer
Sep 26, 2015

Tune into the fireplace channel, you absolute buffoon
Paperless is some stupid bullshit. Paper of all things is an easily renewable resource unlike electricity (still powered by coal and natural gas in most places) and computer chips.

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Gutcruncher
Apr 16, 2005

Go home and be a family man!

Three Olives posted:

My office is paperless now. Except none of our workflows are paperless so we now make lots of copies and print outs, scan them, and put them directly in the shredder. And we aren't allowed to retain paper backups of documents now that we are paperless, so we print them out again all the time and then put them into the shredder.

Also all of our printers force double sided documents, because we are paperless, but our scanning system doesn't like double sided documents, so we copy the double sided documents and scan them as multipage documents, then shred them both.

I wish to see their “we are going green” press release they surely put out upon going “paperless”

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

They're actually geniuses, OP. If they don't do it, people use e-mail as a perpetual filing cabinet and every executive and C-level has some ridiculous 50 GB abomination that must be preserved at all costs and Outlook explodes when it tries to open it. gently caress e-mail.

Well hello there, fellow IT professional. Have we worked with the same C-level guys?

Probably not because every loving one of them are exactly like that.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Idk what else you'd do with emails. Save them separately on the disk? The Windows search is garbage now though.

If it can't handle 50gb it's a piece of poo poo client imo

Leave my massive inbox alone

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Apr 27, 2019

Pekinduck
May 10, 2008
I remember reading about a company way back that required that employees set aside time to delete their unneeded files off the mainframe at the end of each week. They stopped when an employee tired of doing it did the math and showed the man-hours lost on deleten' friday far exceeded the cost of the space saved. This was in 1980's data prices too.

Second Hand Meat Mouth
Sep 12, 2001

someone already mentioned it but it's 110% to keep as few emails around for whatever inevitable lawsuit pops up next

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Colonel Cancer posted:

Paperless is some stupid bullshit. Paper of all things is an easily renewable resource unlike electricity (still powered by coal and natural gas in most places) and computer chips.
:yeah:
Paper archival with sustainable forestry behind it is carbon negative we should be discouraging paperless workplaces and should instead be creating makework entirely focused on putting trees in a box in a warehouse. Every greeting card, every kick me sign, every mapquest, put it in a box in a warehouse.

Three Olives
Apr 10, 2005

What if Hitler invented the BMW i3 Subcompact Electric car?

Gutcruncher posted:

I wish to see their “we are going green” press release they surely put out upon going “paperless”

In fairness the paperless move was more about archiving and accessibility and I actually love my CMS, it's just that at some point it was decided that all paper files are a scourge that must be eliminated, even when it is more practice to keep some paper around at least for a little bit.

jimmyjams
Jan 10, 2001


King Kong of Megadongs
Gobblin' them mega schlongs
Makin' sure they mega long
Stroke' 'em if they mega strong
please consider the environment before printing this post

AutoArgus
Jun 24, 2009
ITT: A whole lotta people who work for companies that are stingy as gently caress.

20USD per user per month gets you 100GB of email and a modern copy of Outlook (which automatically only caches the last year of email and keeps the rest on the server so you don't ever even have to hear the letters PST).

MS has been selling that solution since before 2012, so this isn't even new.

OP start throwing rocks at your IT guys.

Sex Skeleton
Aug 16, 2018

For when lonely nights turn bonely

AutoArgus posted:

ITT: A whole lotta people who work for companies that are stingy as gently caress.

20USD per user per month gets you 100GB of email and a modern copy of Outlook (which automatically only caches the last year of email and keeps the rest on the server so you don't ever even have to hear the letters PST).

MS has been selling that solution since before 2012, so this isn't even new.

OP start throwing rocks at your IT guys.

We have this but I continue to live in fear of the almighty corrupt PST.

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.

AutoArgus posted:

ITT: A whole lotta people who work for companies that are stingy as gently caress.

20USD per user per month gets you 100GB of email and a modern copy of Outlook (which automatically only caches the last year of email and keeps the rest on the server so you don't ever even have to hear the letters PST).

MS has been selling that solution since before 2012, so this isn't even new.

OP start throwing rocks at your IT guys.

There's just not a need for that much e-mail retention outside of fringe cases; 99% of the e-mail you receive can be deleted without any thought or repercussions. Having a bunch of storage for that is just doing it because you can.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant
My work's been warning everyone that anything older than 2 years is getting tossed so if you want that email from 2009 about god knows what, save it somewhere.

I just know there will be insane gnashing of teeth when everything does get shitted away and it will be amazing.

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
Ultra Carp

SCROTO TURBOSPERG posted:

you havent lived until youve shoved your genitals in one of those pneumatic mailer tubes. i call it a hudsucker proxy.

other people
Jun 27, 2004
Associate Christ

AutoArgus posted:

ITT: A whole lotta people who work for companies that are stingy as gently caress.

20USD per user per month gets you 100GB of email and a modern copy of Outlook (which automatically only caches the last year of email and keeps the rest on the server so you don't ever even have to hear the letters PST).

MS has been selling that solution since before 2012, so this isn't even new.

OP start throwing rocks at your IT guys.

but outlook is a piece of poo poo so

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

- your employer specifically wants to discourage you from retaining emails so that in the event of a lawsuit or criminal investigation, there is less evidence that could conceivably be discovered

this is my guess. they specifically taught us to do this in records management school, for the exact listed reason.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
They wanted you to delete emails such that there would be less evidence in the case of a lawsuit?

Lmfao.

The places I've worked at operated under "save as much as possible so if anyone brings a suit we can clearly show that we did everything legally required of us."

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack
imagine caring even a little bit about this poo poo irl

what a horrific existence

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
yeah well gotta pay the land lord

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009
is it time to listen to moridin bitch about his rent again

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Rad-daddio posted:

....I have a single thumb drive(backed up in multiple locations) that the company gave to me when I was doing freelance design work for them. They don't even know I have it. Not that it matters, since the FDA seems like they don't give a gently caress about it anyways unless someone hands them a signed confession.

upload that poo poo to the internet.

no pubes yet sorry
Sep 11, 2003

Rutibex posted:

this is my guess. they specifically taught us to do this in records management school, for the exact listed reason.

https://searchstorage.techtarget.com/definition/litigation-hold

litigation hold (preservation orders or hold orders)

Posted by: Margaret Rouse
WhatIs.com

Contributor(s): Stephen J. Bigelow
Litigation hold (also known as "preservation orders" or "hold orders") is a stipulation requiring a company to preserve all data that may relate to a legal action involving the company. This requirement ensures that the data in question will be available for the discovery process prior to litigation.
A company must preserve records when it learns of pending or imminent litigation, or when litigation is reasonably anticipated. Litigation hold prevents spoliation (destruction, alteration, or mutilation of evidence) which can have a catastrophic impact on the defense. An attorney may issue a litigation hold letter or a company may issue a hold order internally. The order applies not only to paper-based documents but also to electronically-stored information (ESI)

Implementing a litigation hold process can be challenging for storage administrators. All companies must establish a sound retention policy and apply that policy to their storage systems. Storage systems with a litigation hold feature can then override the existing retention and deletion rules that have been established, preventing alteration or destruction of the data until the legal action has been resolved.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

This is one of the funnest posts I've ever seen on this dead forum:

WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW posted:

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zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Moridin920 posted:

They wanted you to delete emails such that there would be less evidence in the case of a lawsuit?

Lmfao.

The places I've worked at operated under "save as much as possible so if anyone brings a suit we can clearly show that we did everything legally required of us."
The actual legal strategy here beside a lack of documents being conspicuous enough to make a jury go hang em is to give them so much bullshit to sort through they'll never make a case while the major players are still alive or else run out of money trying to do it all in a quick enough way.

Paralegal: "hey boss there's an email here asking someone to check out and donate to the "Lemon Party" do you think that's relevant to the campaign contribution case you're trying to make?"

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