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This is my favourite show of 2019 so far, and as someone who has religiously watch GoT for 9 years I am looking forward to Chernobyl more than the GoT finale next week which says something. The Terror was amazing and Chernobyl scratches a very similar itch. Is there anything else out there like these? I'm disappointed if we don't get any other stuff like this.
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nessin posted:I just caught up on the first two episodes (plus podcast) last night, and there are some really annoying problems behind the show. This dramatised show is clearly not for you. There’s a very good BBC documentary you can catch on YouTube. I like both. In general, I like to be both educated and entertained but I don’t expect everything I watch to completely do both. But any lay person will get 95% of what they need to know from this show.
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CainFortea posted:
I’m a bit late to this post, but I still don’t get it. Can someone ELI5?
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May 22, 2019 21:52
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BY a nice coincidence I watched a BBC documentary last night about Sellafield. That was Britain's first nuclear facility, originally constructed to manufacture plutonium for bombs and later expanded to include the world's first commercial reactor. It's now a massive facility for all that and also where all of the UKs (and some foreign countries' I believe) nuclear waste is sent for re-processing as well now so it does everything. Because they were in a rush to get the bomb in 1950 they didn't know what to do with the variety of nuclear waste they had. So they build giant concrete ponds (open to the air!), filled them with water and dumped it all in the there. There's decades worth of deadly stuff sitting visibly under the water and people are just walking around it. The doc guy was just leaning over the side while talking about it. So yeah, water must be a hell of a good radiation shield. Edit: I'd highly recommend the doc if you can get it on iPlayer. He also does a good job of explaining a brief history of nuclear physics, the 3 types of radiation, half-life, the life-cycle of nuclear material and the safety procedures/risks. I had no idea Sellafield was so big or the centre of the UK's nuclear industry in such a way. They had an accident in the 60's that could have been as bad as Chernobyl turned out (it was never as risky a situation as Chenobyl initially was obviously). But the guy who designed the chimney had the foresight & stubbornness to insist on filters on the top of it that stopped a load of radioactive stuff being pumped into the air when at the time everyone said it was unecessary. kaesarsosei fucked around with this message at 10:31 on May 24, 2019 |
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May 24, 2019 10:25
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Thanks for the thread-making GBS threads derail.
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May 25, 2019 22:33
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A related question, about the guy on the roof who tore his shoe. In theory if you got a fuckload of radiation to your foot only, could that kill you? Could it only damage your foot? Could quick amputation prevent it spreading?
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May 29, 2019 13:32
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El Jeffe posted:Actual footage of the roof cleanup: Make sure to watch this. It’s actually insane how close it looks like the show.
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May 30, 2019 21:50
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Pet dogs would be loving useless in the wild and just suffer a lovely death via starvation long before radiation killed them. There were going them a favour, regardless of their potential to spread radiation.
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May 31, 2019 15:31
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Finished the show. I'm not prepared to jump on the hyperbole bandwagon and say its the best TV show of all time, since it's only 5 episodes compared to 60+ for the likes of Sopranos, Mad Men, Breaking Bad. But I will definately say the quality of the 5 episodes is the highest of all shows. I can't even say what my favourite episode or moment is - there is no drop off at all in any of the episodes. Regarding the final episode, I work in IT and have had that sinking feeling when something has gone wrong. To think what was going through those guys heads in that control room when the reactor started going out of control boggles the mind. I probably would have started puking even before the explosion. What was the latest stage in the sequence of events when disaster could have been avoided? I take it as soon as the reactor started spiking power there was no way out given the problem with the graphite on the control rods (ie no actual way to perform the emergency shutdown). Nuclear power is so interesting. It's a pity the amount of stigma it has, I really do think despite Chernobyl and Fukushima we should have more of it. Not only is it clean, but after the startup costs it seems really cheap to run - there were only 10 people working that night? Or is that per reactor so 40 total at Chernobyl. What is the key reason why some materials make good nuclear fuel and others don't? I understand the concept of radiation and molecules hitting each other, splitting and releasing energy - is uranium just the best/only material that has the property of those molecules firing away from each other in the first place?
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Jun 5, 2019 12:17
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So the next logical question about fusion - it's easier to make a fission bomb than a fission reactor right? So would a fusion bomb be easier than a fusion reactor, and what kinda yield would such a thing have?
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Jun 5, 2019 14:55
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Would absolutely love it if we could have a mod probate anyone still going on about Khomyuk. It's a pity the creator hadn't enough money to shoot all of her scenes twice, except the second shot would be a group of about 30 identical looking old men all shuffling around and muttering her lines at random, just to show how loving absurd that would be in a dramatic show. Or even better, just replace her in every scene with a different random man each time who we are never introduced to or have any context towards. Super! All this, and when the show takes other liberties (and IMO every single one of them is justified given the result), like the fact that Scherbina and Legasov were not even at the trial, and no one bats an eyelid. This is the highest rated show of all time, but a few goons think they could have done it better.
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Jun 7, 2019 10:41
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Gonz posted:I’d watch a Siege of Stalingrad or Battle of Kursk show. The Kursk submarine disaster would be a decent subject for another show like this.
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Jun 9, 2019 11:33
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spankmeister posted:I get that we all want more of this, but let's face it. Nothing will ever live up to this. Not the best writer, director, actors, etc. Not the worst most hosed up accident they make a series of. It will never ever live up to the Chernobyl accident, and this series. 100% this. I was around 11 when this happened and I remember the mystery, panic, grainy photos, cancer scares (even here in Ireland there are places where people believe cancer rates got higher in the years after). I've racked my brains and there is nothing else like this in my lifetime.
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Jun 16, 2019 10:02
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You mean Bryukhanov, comrade. Take this man to the infirmary, he’s clearly delusional.
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Jun 22, 2019 14:29
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I've read Midnight in Chernobyl. Who's to say which account is more accurate than others, but my take from it is that the TV show's portrayal of Dyatlov was *slightly* harsh but close enough. The book emhasised how respected he was as an expert but also that he was a complete douche day-to-day. I think he main point is that from his POV he was fed up waiting years for this test and absolute worst case scenario to him was pressing AZ-5 which he was still reluctant to do due to the amount of bullshit/explaining he would need to do. Whereas the book paints Bruykanov in both a more and less sympathetic light. He gets more heat for the actual events of the night than in the TV show, but they mention the amazing amount of pressure and bullshit he was suffering under for literally 15 years before it. He was basically responsible for not only building, manning and maintaining 6 nuclear reactors but also the whole city of Pripyat as well. Fomin hasn't been mentioned much in the book. Remember, to these guys the idea of pressing AZ-5 causing the reactor to explode would be like someone telling us that if your car was out of control, pressing the brakes would make it go faster.
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Jun 29, 2019 13:22
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CommieGIR posted:Chernobyl's own Hodor, Aleksandr Yuvchenko, the man who held open the door to the reactor core for the doomed interns, survived.He finally passed away in 2008 at 44. Survived huh
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Jul 23, 2019 09:56
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I think this, as has been discussed here and elsewhere, is why the true cost of Chernobyl will never be known and why some people estimate that up to 100k people's lives were shortened by it. I strongly suspect Yuvchenko would have been disappointed at only hitting 44 (although he wouldn't have complained too much when comparing to his colleagues) and I wonder what his health was like the whole time? The Soviet headline figures of 36 people dieing within a month of ARS is probably correct but of course they wouldn't release the long-term numbers.
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Jul 23, 2019 13:27
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Data Graham posted:I just watched Stranger Things season 3 and holy god it's trading in the same comically evil Soviet stereotypes from the 80s, which I know is the show's schtick, but it was like, even worse than I remembered. Square-jawed wrinkly scarred old Soviet general choking out a guy who dares to give him bad news, holding him up off the ground and strangling him and then telling the next guy "You have one year". Darth Vader eat your heart out. I'm not the biggest ST fanboi, but there's a decent chance this is intentional right.
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Aug 17, 2019 12:18
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Fly Molo posted:Yeah, inhaling a bunch of fine radioactive dust means you're gonna be emitting radiation until that dust isn't radioactive. The very simple explanation that makes most of the previous page redundant.
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Nov 6, 2019 12:31
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Hard to imagine a better fit for what Mazin should do next.
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Has anyone watched Chernobyl 1986, the new Netflix movie? I’m guessing it doesn’t compare favourably to the HBO series.
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