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irkin_elite
Nov 18, 2006
Destroyer of Worlds
I genuinely love this horrible competition. I look forward to this every year and actually buy their album for it so I don't go in totally blind.

Iceland was such a shock when I first heard it, shook me right out of my Eurovision doze nicely, I hope they place well, as I know they won't win cuz dumbs.

The only songs I keep listening to this year other than Iceland are Spain, Cyprus and Malta. I do like Armenia's entry this year, but I can't say it's a top for me.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to heavily drinking in the afternoon!

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NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

b-minus1 posted:

Is Eurovision rigged/outcome predetermined?

Kind of but not as much as it used to be IIRC. The voting is split 50/50 between a panel of appointed judges and sms votes from viewers. The official panel always has the most boring taste and the sms votes tend to fall into regional factions. The national nominations that send the acts to Eurovision are often 100% rigged.

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla
I made a playlist of some highlights and lowlights (the true highlights) of Eurovision past. Nothing from this year is on it yet but obviously Iceland will be added after the performance.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_Z_WldCQ2VzuSltsfCwV0Iavhhfo-0Qe

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


San Marino is really going for the gold, huh. :allears: That is some high quality Eurovision right there, my bingo card is already full. Hope they make it to the final!

Grillfiend
Nov 29, 2015

Belgians ITT
(ie Me)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XT6yOIC6ihI
I miss entries like this

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

barbecue at the folks posted:

San Marino is really going for the gold, huh. :allears: That is some high quality Eurovision right there, my bingo card is already full. Hope they make it to the final!

According to wiki there's a total of 33,344 people in San Marino. I guess every band in town gets to have a turn at Eurovision.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011




Briefly thought it might be a Stiff Little Fingers cover

Someone needs to do Alternative Ulster as a subtle dig at Israel

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfo-8z86x80

The last unironic great Eurovision winner.

karms
Jan 22, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yam Slacker
Belgium the last few years had very good entries imho, but this one is kinda bleh. Blehgium. I mean, listen to these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G48p8eNhnd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDBjhAGaeWg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxsCmChDYwA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2cZE2gCfWg

And a catchy Love Power to get in the eurovision mood.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg1pgtrrNuA

Laughing Zealot
Oct 10, 2012


Lid posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfo-8z86x80

The last unironic great Eurovision winner.

It's probably the best from the last decade, but the ones to win the last couple of years have usually been fine. Ukraine's maybe the only one I don't care for but politics played a big part there.

This winning back in 2011 will always baffle me.

Grillfiend
Nov 29, 2015

Belgians ITT
(ie Me)


Laughing Zealot posted:

It's probably the best from the last decade, but the ones to win the last couple of years have usually been fine. Ukraine's maybe the only one I don't care for but politics played a big part there.

This winning back in 2011 will always baffle me.

true, this should've won 2011 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD09ThCx4Cw

Zat
Jan 16, 2008

I will watch all of this. Always fun

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

Iceland deciding to go for "people in PVC being weird" much like their 1997 entry, which I am an unequivocal supporter of, obviously. I am also liking the Portuguese entry this year. Weird Eurovision best Eurovision. The Netherlands is hugely favoured to win, tho. I don't find the song as interesting, but you can see his bum in the video, so there's that. I'm also into the Norwegian entry (the joik bits are the best, I unironically believe Norway was robbed in 1980), the Hungarian entry (it didn't strike me as immediately as his 2017 entry, but I quite like it after a few listens), and the Greek and Azeri entries (both with very Aesthetic™ videos there) Least favourite is the Czech entry, the accent irritates me more than the lyrics. Speaking of English accents, you can be sure that our entry this year is so perfectly inoffensive that all the voters will probably forget he's there. A fitting representation :britain:

Edit: Here are some other old Eurovision entries I like, in no especial order.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DKTOyzyDiEs - Denmark 1981
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-NlvQ6Ln9fc - France 2010
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MSuCdNEy9w0 - F.Y.R Macedonia 2012
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jsOOarxxzFY - Sweden 1983
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=v8ENftFochg - Yugoslavia 1983
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ky8RvDQYFnk - Yugoslavia 1987
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8o4JS_EWiJo - Denmark 1997
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mVhtWfC7RF4 - Moldova 2005 (Zdob si Zdub's other entry, don't forget)

I may post more later.

Jollity Farm fucked around with this message at 18:51 on May 12, 2019

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Laughing Zealot posted:

It's probably the best from the last decade, but the ones to win the last couple of years have usually been fine. Ukraine's maybe the only one I don't care for but politics played a big part there.

This winning back in 2011 will always baffle me.

There was a perfectly reasonable explanation for that.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...ns-8835367.html

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/feb/06/eurovision-song-contest-vote-rigging

GET INTO DA CHOPPA
Nov 22, 2007
D:
Does anyone have the drinking game saved somewhere? The site is down and my tradition might be ruined. :ohno:

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib

GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:

Does anyone have the drinking game saved somewhere? The site is down and my tradition might be ruined. :ohno:

There's a new link in the OP.

http://crucialweb.net/eurovision/drinking/

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Kudos to Finland for finally giving the world what it wants and sending Darude but that song isn't nearly peak Internet enough to win.

Sombrerotron
Aug 1, 2004

Release my children! My hat is truly great and mighty.

Well I watched all the videos for the first semi and here are my findings.

Cyprus: A bit of Lady Gaga, a bit of Max Headroom, and a lot of viscous fluids covering two naked young men.
Montenegro: Making your Eurovision entry both Disney ballad, ethnic song and '90s pop track feels a bit like cheating.
Finland: While Darude's and Sebastian's self-awareness should be commended, I feel like muting the TV/stream would be more effective than looking away.
Poland: These traditional Polish Stepford Wives would probably have more success if they brought their vaguely Garbage-esque music to a crowd of non-pensioners instead.
Slovenia: A pretty good ASMR lounge remix, sponsored by Adidas.
Czech Republic: Some nerd with a boner for English accents listens in on his neighbour (whom he last saw when she was 13) having sex and attempts to convince his girlfriend/wife that he's not aroused at all.
Hungary: There's probably a good reason why this kid's lugging around a box all over Hungary containing a small Bat-Signal, but the video does not provide much clarification.
Belarus: An okay pop song, mashed together with the intro to TLC's No Scrubs.
Serbia: Nightwish/Within Temptation-lite, Balkan-style, and metal head crystals.
Belgium: Mumford and Sons, in 2019, but this time with synths.
Georgia: Slavic Jean Reno is freed from his cruel imprisonment on the beach.
Australia: Certainly the best cyberqueen-with-5-meter-long-legs I have ever seen on the ESC, but as far as modern opera goes, it's not a patch on Cézar's monumental 2013 performance.
Iceland: The Lament Configuration had an electro-industrial baby and in a wonderful twist of fate, hell dimensions permitted it entrance into Eurovision.
Estonia: All I can say is that Victor's appropriately smug for this apparent climate-change denial song.
Portugal: Baffling music, baffling costumes, baffling choreography, and impossible to sell to a large audience under any normal circumstances, so this will probably score pretty well.
Greece: Katy Perry going through male puberty.
San Marino: Imagine a bearded and extra-shifty Jeff Bezos making a not-half-bad career in pop music circa 2002.

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Agreed on 90% of the above ^^^

Malta's song sounds exactly like something already out on the radio but I can't remember who/what because I basically never listen to the radio if I can help it.

Denmark is like budget Nora Jones or Lisa Hannigan.

Iceland is actually interesting and solid for an industrial track (but not Lordi-type interesting) and accordingly will get no votes.

Clyde Radcliffe
Oct 19, 2014

Question Mark Mound posted:

I made a playlist of some highlights and lowlights (the true highlights) of Eurovision past. Nothing from this year is on it yet but obviously Iceland will be added after the performance.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_Z_WldCQ2VzuSltsfCwV0Iavhhfo-0Qe

This is a good playlist.

By good, I mean terrible, but in the best way.

Hardawn
Mar 15, 2004

Don't look at the sun, but rather what it illuminates
College Slice
Mods plz sticky

Do it ironically
Jul 13, 2010

by Pragmatica
Wait how is Australia in a competition called Eurovision

13Pandora13
Nov 5, 2008

I've got tiiits that swingle dangle dingle




Do it ironically posted:

Wait how is Australia in a competition called Eurovision

Read OP we go through this every loving year

tesserae
Sep 25, 2004



Question Mark Mound posted:

I made a playlist of some highlights and lowlights (the true highlights) of Eurovision past. Nothing from this year is on it yet but obviously Iceland will be added after the performance.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL_Z_WldCQ2VzuSltsfCwV0Iavhhfo-0Qe

This is such a good playlist.

NoNotTheMindProbe
Aug 9, 2010
pony porn was here

Do it ironically posted:

Wait how is Australia in a competition called Eurovision

Eurovision has been broadcast on free-to air TV in Australia since the start of the 80's and it pretty popular here. Then we got let in for some reason.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

NoNotTheMindProbe posted:

Eurovision has been broadcast on free-to air TV in Australia since the start of the 80's and it pretty popular here. Then we got let in for some reason.

Unfortunately, Australia has thus far missed the spirit of Eurovision and keeps sending actual songs/singers.

klafbang
Nov 18, 2009
Clapping Larry
At least it seems Australia has embraced The Dress. On a woman, though. Baby steps.

No. 1 Callie Fan
Feb 17, 2011

This inkling is your FRIEND
She fights for LOVE
I don't know about this year's Eurovision Song Contest. I get the feeling like it's being hosted at Overlook Hotel.

No. 1 Callie Fan fucked around with this message at 14:16 on May 13, 2019

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

Compilation videos:

All the winners, 1956 - 2018: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lTpCyPhtE_M

Or, if you prefer, all the last places: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eD5AU1UEMKo

Also, I have decided that the Swiss entry this year reminds me of Despacito. I am a cloth eared buffoon tho :v:

Government Handjob
Nov 1, 2004

Gudbrandsglasnost
College Slice

By popular demand posted:

To all the participant countries in Eurovision:
We appreciate the goodwill and desire to help but it's been scientifically proven by now that no amount of gaiety and merriment will improve the lot of the Palestinian people.

Signed: the Israeli left.

P.S. Setting the event inside Gaza was never attempted, how about giving that a try?

ESC is cool but boycotting it this year due to Israel's ongoing occupation of Palestinian territories and continual crimes against the civilian population of Gaza is much cooler.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Israel's contribution to Eurovision


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uy4ggnLzKI

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Reminder Australia was robbed in 2016 and the totally-not-politically-motivated song from the Ukraine was poo poo tier.

I haven't actually done my pre-watch for anyone this year. I was thinking about doing it before the semis but I think I may just go in blind this year for a the laughs.

I hope Sweden's sent some slick motherfucker again; I've been loving just how smooth their entries have been for the last few years and I want my Petra in my life.

Gridlocked fucked around with this message at 14:20 on May 13, 2019

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

Gridlocked posted:

Reminder Australia was robbed in 2016 and the totally-not-politically-motivated song from the Ukraine was poo poo tier.

I haven't actually done my pre-watch for anyone this year. I was thinking about doing it before the semis but I think I may just go in blind this year for a the laughs.

I hope Sweden's sent some slick motherfucker again; I've been loving just how smooth their entries have been for the last few years and I want my Petra in my life.

Sweden's entry is quite good. Even if you're not into that kind of gospel type thing normally, it's still quite an impressive example of the genre (though, as I say, I am a cloth eared buffoon). Last I saw, the odds have them coming third. Though last time Sweden came third (2014) they came first the following year, so there's that.

Regarding Australia 2016, that's one of the times a song did better with the juries than the televoters. Just something to consider when you hear that the televoters have better taste - not always the case.

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.

Jollity Farm posted:

Sweden's entry is quite good. Even if you're not into that kind of gospel type thing normally, it's still quite an impressive example of the genre (though, as I say, I am a cloth eared buffoon). Last I saw, the odds have them coming third. Though last time Sweden came third (2014) they came first the following year, so there's that.

Regarding Australia 2016, that's one of the times a song did better with the juries than the televoters. Just something to consider when you hear that the televoters have better taste - not always the case.

The televoters that year was just Ukraine vs Russia as a proxy for the war. Both were bad songs.

Aphra Bane
Oct 3, 2013

+ 1 team Iceland
That said I'm finding a fair chunk of this year's entries genuinely good, which is a nice change of pace :v: Montenegro seems to be the only real cringe-inducing dud of the lot, unless you're allergic to Serhat.

e: forgot about Croatia. That one's pretty cringe too

Aphra Bane fucked around with this message at 14:54 on May 13, 2019

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

Jollity Farm posted:

Sweden's entry is quite good. Even if you're not into that kind of gospel type thing normally, it's still quite an impressive example of the genre (though, as I say, I am a cloth eared buffoon). Last I saw, the odds have them coming third. Though last time Sweden came third (2014) they came first the following year, so there's that.

Regarding Australia 2016, that's one of the times a song did better with the juries than the televoters. Just something to consider when you hear that the televoters have better taste - not always the case.

I will never stop being salty about 2016.


Also Sweden sent gospel? Rip, I wanted guys in suits again. Bring back Robin Bengtsson, that guy was the slickest motherfucker on the planet with his suit and sweet 90's boy band dance on conveyor-belts.

AveMachina
Aug 30, 2008

God knows what COVIDs you people have



Oh my god I can't wait to get blasted and watch this. Eurovision Season is the best time of the year

Also Iceland is like, a song that would actually work in the real world. Can't wait for Montenegro to win!

Sombrerotron posted:

Well I watched all the videos for the first semi and here are my findings.

Cyprus: A bit of Lady Gaga, a bit of Max Headroom, and a lot of viscous fluids covering two naked young men.
Montenegro: Making your Eurovision entry both Disney ballad, ethnic song and '90s pop track feels a bit like cheating.
Finland: While Darude's and Sebastian's self-awareness should be commended, I feel like muting the TV/stream would be more effective than looking away.
Poland: These traditional Polish Stepford Wives would probably have more success if they brought their vaguely Garbage-esque music to a crowd of non-pensioners instead.
Slovenia: A pretty good ASMR lounge remix, sponsored by Adidas.
Czech Republic: Some nerd with a boner for English accents listens in on his neighbour (whom he last saw when she was 13) having sex and attempts to convince his girlfriend/wife that he's not aroused at all.
Hungary: There's probably a good reason why this kid's lugging around a box all over Hungary containing a small Bat-Signal, but the video does not provide much clarification.
Belarus: An okay pop song, mashed together with the intro to TLC's No Scrubs.
Serbia: Nightwish/Within Temptation-lite, Balkan-style, and metal head crystals.
Belgium: Mumford and Sons, in 2019, but this time with synths.
Georgia: Slavic Jean Reno is freed from his cruel imprisonment on the beach.
Australia: Certainly the best cyberqueen-with-5-meter-long-legs I have ever seen on the ESC, but as far as modern opera goes, it's not a patch on Cézar's monumental 2013 performance.
Iceland: The Lament Configuration had an electro-industrial baby and in a wonderful twist of fate, hell dimensions permitted it entrance into Eurovision.
Estonia: All I can say is that Victor's appropriately smug for this apparent climate-change denial song.
Portugal: Baffling music, baffling costumes, baffling choreography, and impossible to sell to a large audience under any normal circumstances, so this will probably score pretty well.
Greece: Katy Perry going through male puberty.
San Marino: Imagine a bearded and extra-shifty Jeff Bezos making a not-half-bad career in pop music circa 2002.

qft

Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/may/13/hate-will-prevail-icelandic-bdsm-band-put-eurovision-and-israel-in-a-bind

Jollity Farm
Apr 23, 2010

Gridlocked posted:

I will never stop being salty about 2016.


Also Sweden sent gospel? Rip, I wanted guys in suits again. Bring back Robin Bengtsson, that guy was the slickest motherfucker on the planet with his suit and sweet 90's boy band dance on conveyor-belts.

My favourite thing about 2016 Eurovision was that the Polish entry was something like second to last with the juries, but third with the televoters. I think that might be the biggest difference ever between juries and televotes. I mean, I have no especially strong feelings about the song itself, but that's still quite impressive imo. I dare say it was political or something, but still.

The Polish entry this year is quite good. Reminds me of something that might have been played on the Evening Session (BBC Radio 1, mid-nineties indie show) if they had ever played a Polish-language tune. I'm always on board for some nineties retro - my teenage years were mostly godawful, but the music was good.

(not wholly sure I agree about Robin Bengtsson tho, he looks like Mike Cernovich to me)

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gret
Dec 12, 2005

goggle-eyed freak


Jollity Farm posted:

My favourite thing about 2016 Eurovision was that the Polish entry was something like second to last with the juries, but third with the televoters. I think that might be the biggest difference ever between juries and televotes. I mean, I have no especially strong feelings about the song itself, but that's still quite impressive imo. I dare say it was political or something, but still.


The juries vote during the final dress rehearsal performances and apparently during the rehearsal his voice cracked on a high note or something.

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