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its good
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ok so I will concede that its not appropriate for low level programs, and kinda requires a decent operating system and computing power under it, but that doesn't make it bad. it just makes it flexible want to make something happen? write it in python want to jerk off? stroke that dick pythonically want to be called a cool name? get called a pythonista
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# ? May 17, 2019 09:43 |
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echinopsis posted:its good
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# ? May 17, 2019 10:10 |
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its acceptable for writing tiny little lovely scripts. its bad for anything bigger than a single file. use a statically typed language
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# ? May 17, 2019 10:12 |
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it actually is also good for low level programs surprisingly enough. but that's because it can call compiled C++ functions.
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# ? May 17, 2019 10:37 |
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Hammerite posted:its acceptable for writing tiny little lovely scripts. its bad for anything bigger than a single file. use a statically typed language python is deterministically typed so if you don't know what type something is it is because you hosed up, which isn't python's fault.
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# ? May 17, 2019 10:39 |
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Stereotype posted:python is deterministically typed so if you don't know what type something is it is because you hosed up, which isn't python's fault. yes, that's correct. I gently caress up all the time, because I'm an idiot. in a statically typed language the compiler helps me to gently caress up less. me loving up is not python's fault, nevertheless I fault python for not providing that safety net.
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# ? May 17, 2019 12:30 |
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Stereotype posted:python is deterministically typed so if you don't know what type something is it is because you hosed up, which isn't python's fault. Python cannot fail, it can only be failed.
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# ? May 17, 2019 13:20 |
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Schadenboner posted:Python cannot fail, it can only be failed.
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# ? May 17, 2019 13:39 |
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for some reason the ML peeps chose python, so python is good now
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# ? May 17, 2019 13:43 |
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I don't really like python as a language that much, but django is the nicest web framework i've ever used so I put up with python for that. Thanks for reading my post
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# ? May 17, 2019 14:35 |
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python, like all p-langs, is bad and should be avoided in favor of better languages like c# or java.
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# ? May 17, 2019 14:38 |
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Shaggar posted:python, like all p-langs, is bad and should be avoided in favor of better languages like c# or java.
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:01 |
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i am karl, king of duck typing
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:02 |
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shaggar was right
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:03 |
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Shaggar! His opinion correct Fishmech and Stymie at Tegra
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:04 |
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SYN/ACK when the firewalls fell
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:06 |
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actually, python is bad
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:10 |
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echinopsis posted:its good which memory companies do you have stock in? obstipator posted:for some reason the ML peeps chose python, so python is good now the "scientific" people that use python use it because numpy has cleared the extremely low bar set by MATLAB. somehow python even walks over that bar on memory management!
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:13 |
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python blows rear end
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:13 |
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once i thought that python was good, but now i have seen the truth and i know that shaggar was right
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:17 |
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flakeloaf posted:SYN/ACK when the firewalls fell
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:18 |
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pythons bad because the implementation is so slow that everybody just writes half their code in C and uses one of the 18 different available systems for binding it. but there's no C API, there's just the guts of the implementation. and all the binding systems touch different random internal parts. so whenever somebody tries to write another python interpreter / port python to some other environment, half the libraries don't work, because the c libraries haven't been ported / the guts of the implementation are different. pypy and jython have been banging their heads against this for literal decades at this point
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:28 |
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the python type system has the downsides of both compiled langs like rust and interpreted langs like javascript, but without the upsides of knowing your type errors a few seconds after youve written them or just ATVing over them and hoping for the best
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:35 |
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if you're including C code in your python you're already outside the good use case for python
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:38 |
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the python advocate at my job is an enormously obese slob so thats what i associate all python users with
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# ? May 17, 2019 15:55 |
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Captain Foo posted:if you're including C code in your python you're already outside the good use case for python
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# ? May 17, 2019 17:32 |
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global interpreter lock is the only thing you need to know about python to asses whether it sucks
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# ? May 17, 2019 17:54 |
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Shaggar posted:python, like all p-langs, is bad and should be avoided in favor of better languages like c# or java. this doesn’t make sense c# is so hard and i’ve never even heard of java sounds like bullshit Bloody posted:python blows rear end if blowing rear end is an english term for eating rear end, much like a blowjob doesn’t involve blowing, well then yes python blows delicious spread open rear end 👅🍑 animist posted:pythons bad because the implementation is so slow that everybody just writes half their code in C and uses one of the 18 different available systems for binding it. but there's no C API, there's just the guts of the implementation. and all the binding systems touch different random internal parts. so whenever somebody tries to write another python interpreter / port python to some other environment, half the libraries don't work, because the c libraries haven't been ported / the guts of the implementation are different. pypy and jython have been banging their heads against this for literal decades at this point this sounds like a made up problem pram posted:the python advocate at my job is an enormously obese slob so thats what i associate all python users with picturing this dude with a keyboard with everything twice the size including the keys so he doesn’t get the mashed keypad effect COACHS SPORT BAR posted:global interpreter lock is the only thing you need to know about python to asses whether it sucks the gimbal lock of programming. irrelevant in 99% of cases
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# ? May 17, 2019 22:00 |
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python 3 does good work, but i also recommend not doing anything bigger than one off jobs in it as it becomes unmanageable, its packaging is also annoying relative to java's still pays my bills so therefore its good
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# ? May 17, 2019 22:34 |
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echinopsis posted:this doesn’t make sense oic. youre the tiny bug child of python.
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# ? May 17, 2019 23:16 |
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echinopsis posted:
In this industry all problems are made up problems hth
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# ? May 17, 2019 23:49 |
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hi, i'm gil. you may remember me from famous roles such as the currency in final fantasy 7, and being the reason all your attempts at taking advantage of more than one core in python are frustrating
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# ? May 18, 2019 00:02 |
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hobbesmaster posted:somehow python even walks over that bar on memory management! can you post an example because i've literally processed petabytes of data with python and never had any issues with memory aside from times where i accidentally select * limit all-ed something i shouldn't have
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# ? May 18, 2019 00:03 |
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it's the least bad of the plangs, tho. sometimes you gotta plang and then python is a sensible choice. don't plang unless you have to tho. i have never regretted writing anything in java, but i have often regretted writing things in python
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# ? May 18, 2019 00:04 |
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deploying any interpreted lang code is always gross. if it doesnt come in a binary or jvm then lol
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# ? May 18, 2019 00:09 |
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It's easier to find Python programmers and you can pay them less.
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# ? May 18, 2019 00:10 |
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I'm the linux system with 3 different versions of python and if you try to remove one the entire system stops booting.
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# ? May 18, 2019 00:19 |
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just ship the entire interpreter with your application!
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# ? May 18, 2019 00:21 |
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Soricidus posted:it's the least bad of the plangs, tho. sometimes you gotta plang and then python is a sensible choice. don't plang unless you have to tho. i have never regretted writing anything in java, but i have often regretted writing things in python at what stage did languages that start with the letter p become a thing. like what’s the definition of one? what makes one one other than starting with a p
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