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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:
That was a masterful power move NSN. I'm rattled to my core. Canucks are gonna just draft some bland defenceman and be all shocked when he's not Erik Karlsson in six years while Kaliyev and Caulfield are potting 30 a year for the Oilers and Flames. Either that or Benning will spend the entirety of the next month making increasingly erratic pitches to a completely uninterested Ray Shero in a desperate attempt to reunite the Hughes brothers and waste all the time he could've used to actually make some rebuilding moves for once. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 12:10 on May 23, 2019 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Tell me about Kaliyev. The weirdest prospect I can remember. It's hardly a novel idea to say that he looks disengaged for long stretches and doesn't stand out in any way in the OHL. Yet he scored at a rate that should make him a top 5 pick. He's great at stealthily moving into scoring positions and using his bullet of a shot and great vision to finish a play off. He doesn't do much to generate offence, but as the final piece in putting it into the net he's undeniably excellent. I think concerns about his laziness and general disinterest are completely overblown, and kind of feel like he's a newer breed of player that takes the quietly get in position and bury his chances style of sniper to its natural extreme. Whether that will work in the pros remains to be seen, but I think he's a safe bet simply on stats alone. He's no worse defensively than most other guys his age. I don't know what that gets brought up. I could see him becoming a decent middle six guy just fine if he doesn't make it as a top line sniper. He's less of a boom or bust than most seem to think. Players who score at his rate are generally top 5 picks. At any point after that he should be a slam dunk high ceiling selection, but he'll fall to the teens because he doesn't really have many comparable players in the NHL. You can't easily describe him in relation to any contemporary NHLers and as dumb as that is it goes against him (the closest I can think of is Heatley and even that seems not really a great descriptor). I'd be happy if the Canucks took him at ten. I understand why scouts are wary of him and hoenstly I see exactly what they mean with the eye test. Then again I go back to the fact that how he plays clearly works at the OHL level and guys who have his level of success have historically translated that onto the pros at a startlingly high rate.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:So if the overblown laziness thing results in Calgary getting him I should be dancin'? That would be supremely annoying, so yes. With that said, I'm nowhere near as bullish on Kaliyev as I was on deBrincat who fell entirely because of his size. Kaliyev plays a weird style that is hard to wrap your head around. He'll probably need to play with a couple of good playmakers to be effective. I don't think he'll be anywhere near as lights out in the NHL, but I also don't think a few 25g seasons are out of the question for him. He's probably more of a complimentary piece than anything (which would be great for a team like the Flames).
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May 24, 2019 14:42
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In no universe is Bo Horvat and the 10th overall worth 2nd overall. I'd forgive Jim Benning all of his indiscretions if he pulled off a trade even remotely like that. Everyone talks like teams are interested in top picks, and I'm sure they are, but one hasn't moved since 2003. It's not going to happen this year or any year and isn't worth speculating about. Don't worry, the Rangers will take one of Kakko or Hughes at 2. I can assure you of that.
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May 24, 2019 20:40
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https://twitter.com/iyer_prashanth/status/1138822547024166913 Hughes is very, very good; Kaliyev and Brink are going to go way too low.
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Jun 13, 2019 20:05
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He's got those MSL legs, he'll be fine.
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Jun 13, 2019 23:05
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Hey it's draft day today! Mr. Benning and Mr. Aquillini, I know it's in Vancouver this year but I beg of you:
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Jun 21, 2019 12:23
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Why do I get the sinking feeling nothing interesting is going to happen today
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Jun 21, 2019 21:56
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Jun 21, 2019 23:30
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Misanthrope posted:That hair dye though. He knows a thing or two about getting younger
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Jun 21, 2019 23:38
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Cole Caulfield gets draft day https://twitter.com/nhlgifs/status/1142204229886599170?s=19
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Jun 22, 2019 00:03
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Haha I loved Bob McKenzie running through all the Canadian teams just repeating "they tell me they haven't been offered anything worthwhile to make a move, they're expecting to pick." God this day is always such a let down.
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Jun 22, 2019 00:39
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Levitate posted:lmao NHL Network feed is talking about how good the Canucks rebuild is going, how good Benning is, and how good their owner is Hey man, they're down to only like five albatross contracts. Once Benning gets rid of those (after he brought them in in the first place) the rebuild can begin in earnest and they can start picking up picks and prospects. They're only like 4 years away from getting this rebuild off the ground!
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Jun 22, 2019 00:43
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Glambags posted:Gimme trades!! Can't wait for the 18th pick to be traded for the 22nd and 46th!
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Jun 22, 2019 01:48
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NHL teams repeatedly fail to trade down in situations like this because they over value their own pick and don't just you know make the easy choice and recoup a couple extra picks.
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Jun 22, 2019 01:51
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Canucks have oodles of great forward options here but are gonna mad screw it up
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Jun 22, 2019 01:59
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Broberg sounds like a real feast or famine guy Depending on who you ask us either the definition of a modern defenceman or Philip Larsen.
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Jun 22, 2019 02:01
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grack posted:"And the 10th overall pick, the Vancouver Canucks select... two dozen Japadogs and a case of Steamworks Oatmeal" Patrick White again!
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Jun 22, 2019 02:02
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Don't love it. Whatever we'll see. As with all Russian players anyone who professes to have any opinion on one is a liar because no one has ever seen him play.
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Jun 22, 2019 02:12
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Jun 22, 2019 02:15
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heeheex2 posted:huh. well i wasn’t expecting that at all but that’s a pretty awesome pick Given this team's consistently terrible treatment of Russian players, I am not expecting much. I'm terrified for the splash now.
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Jun 22, 2019 02:15
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ThinkTank posted:Can't wait for the 18th pick to be traded for the 22nd and 46th!
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Jun 22, 2019 02:17
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DO YALL WANT A BOXC posted:thinktank i hope for you that taking the russian doesn't mean benning is secure for three years Just gently caress this poo poo up man
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Jun 22, 2019 02:20
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Where are any trades at all this draft blows
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Jun 22, 2019 02:39
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Good god is Kaliyev a money pick here
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Jun 22, 2019 03:16
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tofes posted:as far as I can tell there were no draft day trades??? It was the first draft without a player changing teams since 2005 which was hastily assembled after the lockout, held in a hotel and wasn't open to the public. In a league increasingly short on relevance, the NHL should be ashamed of what happened yesterday. We're told repeatedly that there are three major trading days in the year and one just passed without a blip. There was no real excuse this year, I can't think of a good reason why no trades took place other than extreme risk aversion by the people in charge. The NHL better send a memo to all GMs and remind them they're in the entertainment industry and trades are free advertising. Yesterday was just sad.
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Jun 22, 2019 12:22
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Wow please no 2020 1st but he's exactly what we need
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Jun 22, 2019 18:10
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T-Bone posted:there's no way that's a first, surely this is "not trade in the East, clear cap" deal for TB with the usual lower returns Yes but Benning
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Jun 22, 2019 18:13
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Levitate posted:Millers weird. He’s skilled and good but somehow underwhelms Honest to god, a warm body that can play with some skill and strength on a line with Pettersson and Boeser is what we need. He just needs to be a middle six complimentary piece that can round out the top six. If he consistently pots 45-50pts and takes some pressure off the youngsters I'm all over this.
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Jun 22, 2019 18:18
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Kaliyev to LAK. Another multi cup winner gets a guy who'll score a bunch and everyone will say "wow how did we miss him except for all his goals and points."
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Jun 22, 2019 18:19
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Spring Break My Heart posted:hes not even short! Yeah but he sorta looks lazy when he plays. Lazy as he roofs his second goal and fourth point of the night.
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Jun 22, 2019 18:22
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T-Bone posted:Hoglander seems like a good pick I don't mind it. I doubt he amounts to much but I'm happy it's not some tough rear end defender who's a bust a month before he's selected this year.
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Jun 22, 2019 18:37
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https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1142487428009086977?s=19 Aaggghhhhhhhh I fuckin told you
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