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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCyEX6u-Yhs Dark Fate: A Terminator Story is the latest reboot attempt in the Terminator series after Rise of the Machines, Salvation, and Genisys each failed spectacularly. It will feature the same time-travel plot as four of the five currently released Terminator films. The creative new direction is a new type of Terminator. Linda Hamilton and James Cameron are back in some capacity primarily for nostalgia marketing purposes. Edward Furlong couldn't reprise his role due to living homeless as a drug addict when he's not in rehab, so they had to callously write around his character. The production values and gritty aesthetic appear promising, at least. Dark Fate: A Terminator Story is scheduled to be theatrically released in the United States on November 1, 2019.
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Slutitution posted:
Seems worth mentioning that Gynysis isn't completely undone, because there is still Pops Terminator and Young Sarah Connor, But Not GoT Lady. Also, it goes without saying that the comments to the new trailer on Youtube are horrible trash complaining about women in action movies. Like, holy poo poo.
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May 24, 2019 22:40
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I'll prob see it. Even though the trailer is kinda meh. Every terminator movie where they go back in time they create another timeline so the series is made to be remade forever.
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May 24, 2019 22:50
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Isn't this one supposed to ignore all the previous sequels and be it's own sequel to 2? Anyway I was mildly curious until the trailer dropped, which looks like rear end.
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May 24, 2019 23:10
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She looks like Master Miller. Skynet played us like a drat fiddleeeeeeee!!
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May 24, 2019 23:15
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Grendels Dad posted:Seems worth mentioning that Gynysis isn't completely undone, because there is still Pops Terminator and Young Sarah Connor, But Not GoT Lady. When Sarah Connor says "she's me" I don't think she means it literally.
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May 24, 2019 23:27
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Slutitution posted:Edward Furlong couldn't reprise his role due to living homeless as a drug addict when he's not in rehab, so they had to callously write around his character.  Jesus, maybe stopping skynet had some negatives. Future commander connor had so much going for him. 
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May 24, 2019 23:56
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This wouldn't even be on anyone's radar if Hamilton wasn't coming back for it.
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May 25, 2019 01:57
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Can't wait to see what the Dark Fate universe deals with. Maybe they will include other Arnold movies. Dark Fate: A Commando Story Dark Fate: A Cimmerian Story Dark Fate: A Kindergarten Cop Story
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May 25, 2019 02:03
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Tenzarin posted:
From what I've read he got coerced into emancipation from his aunt and uncle who had custody, and ended up living with a much older woman who appears to have been abusing him around the age of fifteen. Poor kid was pretty much hosed from minute one.
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May 25, 2019 02:17
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My take: Hunter doesn't really work if anyone other than bjork is singing it.
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May 25, 2019 04:26
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They are getting dangerously close to making my dream terminator movie: A shot for shot remake of T2: Judgment Day with the same actors aged but roles reversed. This time Arnold is the bad guy!
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May 25, 2019 04:35
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I think I've said this elsewhere, but, this might actually be okay. Like, Tim Miller's a good director, James Cameron's actually involved with this beyond telling some magazine "yeah it's fine" and getting a stack of money, and the cast seems good. I'm not sure if I'd say this is on my radar simply due to the track record that post-T2 Terminator sequels have, but if it comes out and people say it's good, I'm not gonna be the one calling bullshit. e: yeah, that trailer's not bad. They really seem to be taking some notes from Snyder on "how to do super-strength fights," there's a surprising amount of weight to the hits for how fast the choreography is in the hand-to-hand stuff. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 05:55 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 05:52
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General Dog posted:When Sarah Connor says "she's me" I don't think she means it literally. Who knows with Terminator sequels these days?
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May 25, 2019 07:42
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This doesn't look very good. On the plus side, they seem to have realized that the only two Terminator designs that are remotely interesting are the T-800 and the T-1000 and they've made them into like a weird buddy-cop situation where the T-1000 is being hauled around on the T-800 frame. Linda Hamilton is back, which is nice. And Arnold is always good. Mackenzie Davis looks neat. But I just think the Terminator franchise is so thoroughly mined out that seeing them borrow images and motifs and whatever doesn't read like a homage or anything, but just another sign of there not being much to do with it. The story was told in T1 and T2. T3 was bad. Salvation was terrible. Genisys was just strange even if it was better than the previous two. The only worthwhile Terminator thing since the first two films was the TV series, which Genisys borrowed quite liberally from, only to do it all worse. And that's because the TV series went in a different direction, building directly off the ideas and themes from T2. But then again, I didn't think Alita would be very good either and that surprised me. Maybe Dark Fate will do the same, but that trailer did not fill me with confidence.
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May 25, 2019 08:02
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Ah, another terminator movie where they think character development and plot means even more high tech terminator and impact free fights. and for the love of gently caress will someone remind them the T1000 was a prototype released just before skynet got hosed up and there is nothing "better"
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May 25, 2019 11:07
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Tart Kitty posted:This wouldn't even be on anyone's radar if Hamilton wasn't coming back for it. Im genuinely surprised this is even getting released into theatres. It looks like a SciFi original movie. I was a little intrigued when I heard it was a direct sequel to T2 with Linda Hamilton. But this just looks exactly like all the other poo poo Terminator sequels. Who could possibly give a poo poo at this point? I mean that trailer...holy gently caress.
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May 25, 2019 11:18
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504 posted:Ah, another terminator movie where they think character development and plot means even more high tech terminator and impact free fights. Literally every bit of Terminator media since T2 seems to forget what Kyle Reese said: that they destroyed Skynet and won the war and that the two Terminators were sent back as a last-ditch assassination mission.
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May 25, 2019 13:18
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They keep changing the future so every time one comes back, it's some other super hosed up monstrosity.
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May 25, 2019 14:52
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I'd be super on board with Linda Hamilton coming back, but the trailer is full-on cgi shitfest, so I'm gonna pass on this one. No one seems to understand anymore what made the first two movies so good (or any 80-90's action classic for that matter). Or maybe just no one cares. It's going to be cgi planes and robits and trucks smashing into eachother videogamely from now to eternity forever and ever.
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May 25, 2019 20:52
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I think that trailer actually looks pretty good!
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May 25, 2019 20:57
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Also evil terminator guy looks like a dork.
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May 25, 2019 21:11
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It probably would have been faster to just crawl out of the window than to slowly reconstruct himself on the hood. But Linda Hamilton looks very cool. I am into this.
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May 25, 2019 21:14
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grate deceiver posted:I'd be super on board with Linda Hamilton coming back, but the trailer is full-on cgi shitfest, so I'm gonna pass on this one. No one seems to understand anymore what made the first two movies so good (or any 80-90's action classic for that matter). Or maybe just no one cares. It's going to be cgi planes and robits and trucks smashing into eachother videogamely from now to eternity forever and ever. Yeah, this is what needs to change to make a successful reboot. T2 was an action film, but not a cgi summer blockbuster. T1 was an action horror. The major set pieces I remember from T2 were all basically vehicle crash related and I think they slowly built up to blowing up one building. I'm sure I saw a skydiving car in the trailer :/ Even the combat was grounded as much as it could be for scifi robots. It was just 2 solid things knocking lumps out of eachother. No fancy arty combat or CGI slow mo closeups.
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May 25, 2019 21:27
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Darko posted:They keep changing the future so every time one comes back, it's some other super hosed up monstrosity. It would be kinda good if they actually ever addressed this, because it makes a lot of sense and would make for dramatic tension. It turns out you can avert your future, but you cannot avert the future in general and it seems that Skynet is a part of that general future, no matter what. So there is always going to be some kind of robotic nightmare coming back for you, and torching Skynet's toenail now will only make the next nightmare be a different color. That's one of the reasons I like Genyisis more than most here do. The movie attempted to play around with time fuckery a bit instead of treating it as a way to get the Terminators from then to now. grate deceiver posted:Also evil terminator guy looks like a dork. I actually like that. You can't replicate Arnold and actually shouldn't try if your original pitch is "infiltration", let the subsequent models look dorkier and dorkier. Like, have a scene where somehow Future Skynet observes present day America and decide how its shapeshifter's basic look is going to be, and it turns out it's that dork.
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May 25, 2019 22:45
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Darko posted:They keep changing the future so every time one comes back, it's some other super hosed up monstrosity. This is part of why I gave Genesys some credit being so weird with the timeline. All the time travel makes everything weird and complicated, so if a movie goes "yeah, ok, so Kyle somehow lands in a timeline where Sara Connor isn't a waitress and shes protected by a Terminator since she was a little", I'm just going to shrug and hand-shake the movie on it because, you know what, fine. Maybe even give it bonus points for having the stones to rely on how weird poo poo is to power the narrative. If you had wanted a clean timeline, you've told James Cameron not to make T2. T1 gives you a nice, clean, circular timeline. Everything else, even T2, just adds needless complexity. Regarding Dark Fate, I can't shake one of two amusing concepts: either James Cameron (known bully) borrowed liberally from the Terminators he didn't make because he's gonna show them how to do their stuff (Terminator who thinks shes human, etc) better, or he's watched so little of the Terminators that weren't his, invented them alone, and nobody has the stones to tell him that they've already been done. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 22:58 on May 25, 2019 |
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May 25, 2019 22:54
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MisterBibs posted:Regarding Dark Fate, I can't shake one of two amusing concepts: either James Cameron (known bully) borrowed liberally from the Terminators he didn't make because he's gonna show them how to do their stuff (Terminator who thinks shes human, etc) better, or he's watched so little of the Terminators that weren't his, invented them alone, and nobody has the stones to tell him that they've already been done. Or, he's seen them and thought "I like that, but can it be done differently/expanded upon". That would make him look less of a miserable rear end in a top hat though, so I guess that option is out of the window.
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May 25, 2019 23:00
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Skynet goes too far and models its last assassin robot after modern day goons in both appearance and personality. It never leaves the house and john connor dies peacefully of old age at 97.
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May 25, 2019 23:01
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Grendels Dad posted:Or, he's seen them and thought "I like that, but can it be done differently/expanded upon". That would make him look less of a miserable rear end in a top hat though, so I guess that option is out of the window. Yeah, I didn't want to go too hard in the paint over it, because for all I know he's mellowed, but... you know, James Cameron.
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May 26, 2019 01:04
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MisterBibs posted:Yeah, I didn't want to go too hard in the paint over it, because for all I know he's mellowed, but... you know, James Cameron. He just typically interviews with no filter until he realizes he should take it back later.
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May 26, 2019 04:58
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Honestly the majority of my problem is that you have, like: Terminator 2: there's a good terminator in the modern day and they're running from an all powerful Terminator Terminator 3: There's still a good terminator in the modern day and they're running from a new all powerful Sexy Terminator Terminator 4: I don't remember Terminator 5: The timeline is hosed and there's a good terminator in the modern day running from a new all powerful Terminator That Is The Physical Embodiment of Skynet And now Terminator 6 (3-2, really) is: The timeline is so turbo hosed that this is technically a soft reboot and there's now maybe two good Terminators in the modern day on the run from a new all powerful Terminator That Looks Like a School Shooter. Also we are using Jude Collie as a body double to smear a modern Edward Furlong CGI composite face onto. Come up with some new loving ideas already, christ. Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 09:58 on May 26, 2019 |
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May 26, 2019 09:56
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Grendels Dad posted:I actually like that. You can't replicate Arnold and actually shouldn't try if your original pitch is "infiltration", let the subsequent models look dorkier and dorkier. Like, have a scene where somehow Future Skynet observes present day America and decide how its shapeshifter's basic look is going to be, and it turns out it's that dork. Robert Patrick was normally built and still had an intimidating presence due to physical acting and the police uniform signifying he was enforcing a ruthless future authority. "Infiltration" doesn't mean you have to make a killer machine appear like a wet noodle.
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May 26, 2019 10:46
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MisterBibs posted:Regarding Dark Fate, I can't shake one of two amusing concepts: either James Cameron (known bully) borrowed liberally from the Terminators he didn't make because he's gonna show them how to do their stuff (Terminator who thinks shes human, etc) better, or he's watched so little of the Terminators that weren't his, invented them alone, and nobody has the stones to tell him that they've already been done. It’s also possible that Cameron as producer is largely a marketing ploy and he maybe had one or two suggestions but otherwise just rubber stamped the same old poo poo they’ve been doing for the past 15 years.
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May 26, 2019 10:53
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Karpaw posted:Robert Patrick was normally built and still had an intimidating presence due to physical acting and the police uniform signifying he was enforcing a ruthless future authority. "Infiltration" doesn't mean you have to make a killer machine appear like a wet noodle. It's one of the things that I think get forgotten by the films in a sense. Infiltration literally just means 'look human enough that they can get inside the bunker and massacre humans.'
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May 26, 2019 12:15
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Would be cool to do another horror Terminator, I think.
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May 26, 2019 13:29
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General Dog posted:It’s also possible that Cameron as producer is largely a marketing ploy and he maybe had one or two suggestions but otherwise just rubber stamped the same old poo poo they’ve been doing for the past 15 years. Yeah, that's kinda my view. I mean, even if he's an actual producer, he didn't write it, so who the gently caress cares? And even if he did write it, I wouldn't be excited. It's been a long time since the Abyss and T2. I think if he had a really good screen play given to him, he could still direct a hell of a movie, though. Too bad he's only about Avatar.
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May 26, 2019 16:01
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I wish they would at least come up with some creative new Terminator designs. Everything is either, T-800, T-1000, or the second layered on the former.
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May 26, 2019 16:19
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I can't see how they are going to change the formula of what is basically an escort quest into something so different that it redefines the series. And I don't see anything in the trailer that is showing me that the reason to come back to this is because of amazing set pieces or new action/stunts, in lieu of sparse storytelling, which I can forgive if done right. So the story has to do something to make this meaningful, otherwise it's just another boring chapter in what was a really thrilling one two punch with The Terminator and T2. Why does the future hinge on this girls survival? Is she a child of humans/skynet? Some sort of hybrid? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrADTN-dvg
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May 26, 2019 16:44
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galagazombie posted:I wish they would at least come up with some creative new Terminator designs. Everything is either, T-800, T-1000, or the second layered on the former. They tried that in Salvation with Markus the reverse terminator, motorbike terminators and building sized killbots. Underwhelming stuff. They might as well just stick to what works and make something other than a 2 hour video game cutscene. Like Firstborn said, a new horror movie would be nice. It Follows got a lot of praise, and that was basically Terminator 1. The best parts of T2 are all the high tension scenes where the T-1000 just won't loving stop too. Attack on Princess fucked around with this message at 22:51 on May 26, 2019 |
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How was he a reverse terminator? He was just a terminator that thought he was human. This time the terminator thinks that they are human. Last time the terminator thought they were human too? Your other points are most likely correct.
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