machine learning: this place is not a place of honor

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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

animist posted:

i always lie on the youtube quizzes that show up sometimes

there's also adversarial examples which are basically optical illusions for attacking deep learning systems:

those are pretty crazy, like you can wear pixelly facepaint at a protest to trick facial recognition systems

the government has probably moved on to gait matching anyways

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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

if you think about the modern battlefield as a collection of semi-manned drones packed full of sensors, the end result is something pretty similar to an RTS in terms of how an AI might deal with it.

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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Sagebrush posted:

but i still don't understand how you "teach" from that.

do you just, like, have your AI review thousands of examples of starcraft pathfinding behavior where you mark the starting point and destination and obstacles? in that case aren't you just directly ripping off blizzard's algorithm?

do you use it to simulate a real-world battlefield by saying okay, a zergling is a palestinian child and a siege tank is a rocket truck, go figure it out? in that case aren't you both ripping off blizzard and using a really poor representation of your environment, full of biases?

do you decompile the game and customize it to create optimized training materials for your system? in that case, why even start with starcraft?

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the builtin AI from blizzard is not good. alphastar plays like a human (for the most part) and the point is being able to create an AI that can adapt itself to battlefield combat. its not so much that it can play starcraft specifically, but that it can learn to do RTS at all.

the reason to start with starcraft 2 is a combo of factors like popularity, maturity, and blizzard's willingness to provide support. is there even another RTS that they could use? I mean starcraft 1 maybe, but there are probably technical limitations and the unit controls are janky as hell

# ¿ Jul 29, 2020 15:53

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

its not about actually driving the tank like first person car type stuff, its about navigation and fire control integrated into the overall battlefield.

# ¿ Jul 29, 2020 16:11

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

lol. how do you gently caress up a math test? its litterrally math

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# ¿ Apr 24, 2024 09:27

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

hobbesmaster posted:

in the mid 2000s for physics class we had this homework system that varies the exact numbers for each student and could get very oddly picky about precision which would sometimes actually require a technically incorrect answer

ie students get 10.06, 10.2 and 10 and it requires 4 sigfigs which the third student would have no idea about

of course we all compared notes and eventually a friend of mine was emailing a complete list of formulas that would result in the answer and the expected form the answer

picking the right formula and plugging things in is litterrally all there is to physics 101 so you guys ended up learning something by accident

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