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vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
how long has guaido been interim president for now? like coming up on two years, right?

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Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

World War Mammories posted:

is there a contingent of reply guys owning the homophobe by calling him gay? because that is some primo lib brain

lmao of course there is

"TRUMP IS GAY FOR PUTIN" has been a massive galaxy-level own in a lot of lib brains for like half a decade now

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

vyelkin posted:

how long has guaido been interim president for now? like coming up on two years, right?

His one month term never officially starts or ends.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/09/22/can-left-return-power-bolivia/

Stories are slowly leaking into mainstream press suggesting that actually a christofascist police coup might be worse than a progressive democratically elected government. This story was able to be written because a few Dems led by Bernie are actually questioning the OAS.

quote:

“The Organization of American States’ decision last year to declare Bolivia’s election fraudulent on the basis of questionable evidence helped fuel a crisis of democracy and human rights that Bolivians are experiencing to this day,” Sanders told Today’s WorldView.

“Bolivia’s post-coup government carried out racist violence against indigenous people, imprisoned activists, and threatened political opponents.”

“What more than two dozen of my colleagues and I are demanding is that the United States government take responsibility for what is done with our taxpayer dollars and wield oversight over the OAS,” Sanders added.
the funny part of that quote though is the last sentence because I'm pretty confident the OAS declaring a clean election to be fraudulent was precisely because the US is wielding oversight over the OAS lol.

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


very cool!!

https://twitter.com/econ_marshall/status/1308450264462929920?s=21

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


that's not a coding error, that was an intentional mis-representation

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

They just did a moving average, and then stopped it at an arbitrary point. Of course starting a new moving average across a region of large change is going cause a gap.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

You're both right since what zegermans says is true and there was (also) a coding error where they treated time as an alphanumerical variable which made the data for their graph of the changing margin not even in chronological order. It didn't matter how shoddy their work was or whether they had to straight up intentionally distort the data. All that mattered was delegitimizing Evo's win to give cover to a fascist coup.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1308299821296439298

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004

science twitter has picked up the oas thing but theyre running with it as "oh this was just an error, we need a more competent para-governmental imperialist propaganda machine"

also conveniently ignoring all the people pointing out oas' analysis was bullshit at the time, just because now nyt and harvard pubpol people have finally "discovered" it because it's passed the threshold waiting period from "coup? coup? the us is only concerned about the suffering of those people and seeing that democracy was carried out" to "well of course the us was always malicious/incompetent in interfering in south america in the past but that has no bearing on now"

e: and them publishing the critiques now is part of the scheme, because they always do this since it gives the impression of error rather than malice and of "progress" that can be used to defend the next intervention

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007
Isn’t this really bad as propaganda at this point? Is there anybody on earth that doesn’t consider Guaidó a loving loser? Like, the usual suspects will always support any opposition to Maduro but supporting Guaidó just seems embarrassing at this point. Is it that hard for the CIA to get another figurehead?

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015



Is that gringo a journalist? I wonder why he blocked me. So much for free information huh

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018


Adam Johnson is generally a good egg who is critical of how the US media spins bullshit, why the hostile tone?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Hedenius posted:

Isn’t this really bad as propaganda at this point? Is there anybody on earth that doesn’t consider Guaidó a loving loser? Like, the usual suspects will always support any opposition to Maduro but supporting Guaidó just seems embarrassing at this point. Is it that hard for the CIA to get another figurehead?

lol the entire US political class lives in an alternate reality
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1308954305278468096?s=20

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


cool dance moves posted:

Adam Johnson is generally a good egg who is critical of how the US media spins bullshit, why the hostile tone?

I can respect that, but I'm really puzzled with this if the point of his twitter account is spreading information about that.



I don't think I ever interacted with him. :shrug:

Hedenius
Aug 23, 2007

Atrocious Joe posted:

lol the entire US political class lives in an alternate reality
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1308954305278468096?s=20

LOL


https://twitter.com/camilatelesur/status/1308924135553355777?s=21

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Atrocious Joe posted:

lol the entire US political class lives in an alternate reality
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1308954305278468096?s=20

*checks date* oh no

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004



https://twitter.com/Karl_Was_Right/status/1308953631060762624?s=19

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011

Atrocious Joe posted:

lol the entire US political class lives in an alternate reality
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1308954305278468096?s=20

hell yes championing democracy by, let's see here, supporting the self-appointed interim president for life who never ran for president over the guy who won the last election

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Negostrike posted:

I can respect that, but I'm really puzzled with this if the point of his twitter account is spreading information about that.



I don't think I ever interacted with him. :shrug:

youre on a block list because of someone you follow.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1309229177619578888?s=20
also the press secretary for AFSCME union in the US posted they were 100% anti-communist and 100% pro-Biden


whoever wins, Latin America loses

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


Atrocious Joe posted:


whoever wins, Latin America loses

You wanna why?

That's right.

Cause we can't have nice things.

Archduke Frantz Fanon posted:

youre on a block list because of someone you follow.

That is just asinine if that's really the case but ok.

Echo Chamber
Oct 16, 2008

best username/post combo

Computer. Generate a political worldview that's 100% anti-communist and 100% anti-racist.

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Negostrike posted:

You wanna why?

That's right.

Cause we can't have nice things.


That is just asinine if that's really the case but ok.

Maybe you're just a bad poster? Have you considered that?

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Atrocious Joe posted:

lol the entire US political class lives in an alternate reality
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1308954305278468096?s=20
absolutely outrageous. any time i start faltering and thinking about strategically voting against fascism there's biden to remind me he's a full-throated white supremacist imperialist too.

not a word about the massacres in colombia, the loving bolsonaro regime, ecuador phasing out its democracy, or the bolivia christofascist putsch. gently caress YOU gently caress YOU gently caress YOU

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

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He's from the administration who's DOJ thought that a 25 million dollar fine for hiring paramilitaries to murder thousands of workers and trade unionists in latin america was outrageously punitive. What's happening in Columbia and Brazil are what he wants to happen.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

reminder that Eric Holder was representing Coca Cola in their defense for paying off death squads when he was made AG

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1309947230120562688?s=20

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


genericnick posted:

Maybe you're just a bad poster? Have you considered that?

How does he know? :eek:

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1310660242422878208?s=20

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
getting out voted after a coup feels like an insane level of incompetence.

if it happens

cool dance moves
Aug 27, 2018



The black and white sign next to them reads, "RIP constitution, law, democracy" :ironicat:

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

cool dance moves posted:

The black and white sign next to them reads, "RIP constitution, law, democracy" :ironicat:

no, see, it's a kill list, they're bragging

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/midnucas/status/1310706459257131010

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

big Laura Loomer energy

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

I dunno looks like the election court is at least ruling on it so I could see it happening
https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1310916945366089729

the right has been fracturing lately with the evangelical freak declaring there was a coup and some right wing party big in La Paz saying they won't endorse anyone after their guy got fired from his Economy Minister position by Anez. And we've seen the polling showing MAS ahead.

So it's looking more and more like the way to stop the MAS from retaking power is banning them or stealing the vote. But coup authorities will have have to factor in the uprisings that would follow.

Fast Luck has issued a correction as of 16:17 on Sep 29, 2020

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



election court gets the honor of deciding if the nations descends into flames and violence

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004


Are their any good articles on the feminist protests in mexico right now? It seems like AMLO *el clic* is loving it up

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!



wow president amlo

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i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

my bougie friends in coahuila are all pro-PAN and their criticisms are dumb but i haven't heard a single good thing he's accomplished in his entire term so far

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