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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

bagual posted:

please bomb climate change dead tia

https://twitter.com/inthesetimesmag/status/1226916589334933505?s=20

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Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/EugeneDaniels2/status/1386834494209024000?s=20

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The US plan is to turn the northern triangle countries into giant open air prisons

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

The idea is to give them so much money that they can improve the lives of their citizens so fast that they don't want to emigrate, not this.

galenanorth has issued a correction as of 14:45 on Apr 28, 2021

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


this is so grotesque

https://twitter.com/dilemmv/status/1386879356924989440?s=21

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/DenisRogatyuk/status/1387461846261800961?s=20

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/th1an1/status/1387497577797541893
https://twitter.com/muquchinchi/status/1387471710027493382
https://twitter.com/DailyNe25683877/status/1387443280338620416

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1387535840440639488?s=20
https://twitter.com/GettyImagesNews/status/1387540686933794822?s=20

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huNzePc4bvU

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1387800274086109195?s=20

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


lol come on fucc off

https://twitter.com/whaasstsecty/status/1387756866961346560?s=21

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

Looking forward to the impending colonization of cuba

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Algund Eenboom posted:

Looking forward to the impending colonization of cuba

Who enjoys some manufacturing of loving consent?!

https://globalnews.ca/news/7809823/havana-syndrome-canadian-recent-cases/

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/status/1387840378724835330

OH WORD???

quote:

It was billed as the beginning of the end for Nicolas Maduro. With foreign leaders in tow and the world watching, anti-Maduro activists gathered in Colombia in February 2019 with the aim of pushing entire warehouses worth of aid – flown in on US military cargo planes – across the border into Venezuela.

Instead, the humanitarian convoy was violently blocked by security forces loyal to Maduro – the first in a series of miscalculations in the Trump administration’s policy towards Venezuela.

More than two years later, the risky gambit is being questioned by a US government watchdog. A new report (PDF) by the inspector general at the US Agency for International Development raises doubts about whether the deployment of aid was driven more by the US pursuit of regime change than by technical analysis of needs and the best ways to help struggling Venezuelans.

The findings were published April 16 but have not been previously reported.

The report focuses on the frenzied few months after opposition leader Juan Guaido rose up to challenge Maduro’s rule, quickly winning recognition as Venezuela’s rightful leader by the US and dozens of allies.

As part of that effort, USAID between January and April 2019 spent $2m to position 368 tonnes of emergency supplies on the Caribbean island of Curacao and on the Colombia-Venezuela border.

Under Guaido’s orders, the aid was supposed to be delivered into Venezuela in defiance of Maduro, who condemned the effort as a veiled coup attempt. But when an opposition-organised caravan that tried to enter Venezuela was blocked at the border, at least one truck caught fire, destroying $34,000 worth of US-supplied aid.

As media attention turned away and Guaido’s fight to unseat Maduro unraveled in the months that followed, the US assistance was quietly repurposed. In the end, only eight tonnes ever reached Venezuela, with the remaining 360 tonnes distributed inside Colombia or shipped to Somalia, the report found.

The 34-page report said the US deployment of aid responded in part to the Trump administration’s campaign to pressure Maduro rather than just coming to the aid of struggling Venezuelans.

For example, the assistance was needlessly delivered in giant Air Force C-17 cargo planes instead of cheaper commercial options that were available, the report said. Ready-to-use meals to fight child malnutrition were also sent even though USAID’s own experts had decided the nutritional status of Venezuelan children did not warrant their use at the time, investigators said.

To bolster Guaido, USAID – believing UN agencies had been co-opted by Maduro – minimised funding to the United Nations even though some UN agencies had infrastructure inside Venezuela to distribute the aid.

The “directive to pre-position humanitarian commodities was not driven by technical expertise or fully aligned with the humanitarian principles of neutrality, independence and being based on needs assessments,” the report says.

The report, which was nearly two years in the making, was prepared to address challenges and “fraud risks” in USAID’s response to the Venezuelan crisis. It contains six recommendations to improve coordination across the sprawling agency – the main vehicle for US foreign assistance – and strengthen controls to avoid politicising humanitarian action.

A USAID spokesperson said the agency welcomed the report’s findings, which it is implementing, and all efforts to improve the effectiveness of USAID’s work, especially in challenging environments.

Shortly after Guaido’s aid delivery caravan failed, USAID started quietly working behind the scenes with UN agencies, the International Committee of the Red Cross and other groups to get aid into Venezuela, where such goods are frequently distributed at government hospitals and agencies controlled by Maduro.

https://twitter.com/StateDept/status/1099799254103715840

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1094345590069174273

https://twitter.com/BillClinton/status/1099504112608018432

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1099332899248263170

https://twitter.com/WHAAsstSecty/status/1099748313711239170

(this is the same lady who posted about "concerns" over human rights violations in Cuba yesterday)

https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1099380342018912257

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine
https://twitter.com/AmericaElige/status/1387928443648684034?s=20

Huh...

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

mother fucker

Junkozeyne
Feb 13, 2012
A serious medical condition of being knifed in the back

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


CIA injected him with covid

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

Love that passive voice on "at least one truck caught fire".

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

brugroffil posted:

CIA injected him with covid

He's already had it once already. They brought this sucker all the way from India...

TeenageArchipelago
Jul 23, 2013


TerminalSaint posted:

Love that passive voice on "at least one truck caught fire".

especially because it turned out that it was someone on the columbian side of the border who did it. Threw a molotov and the cloth fell out

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/americas/venezuela-aid-fire-video.html

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012

lol do you remember having to argue with like half of dnd that actually the 'aid convoy' that all major aid orgs wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole was maybe kinda sus
also that the guy who set it on fire wasn't probably actually an agent provocateur of the maduro regime

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

mortons stork posted:

lol do you remember having to argue with like half of dnd that actually the 'aid convoy' that all major aid orgs wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole was maybe kinda sus
also that the guy who set it on fire wasn't probably actually an agent provocateur of the maduro regime

that's exactly why I brought it up

Salean
Mar 17, 2004

Homewrecker

Wow serious media illiteracy on display itt

Believe the science folks

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

gradenko_2000 posted:


quote:

Ready-to-use meals to fight child malnutrition were also sent even though USAID’s own experts had decided the nutritional status of Venezuelan children did not warrant their use at the time, investigators said.

So the food crisis was overblown, or the USAID experts wanted kids to starve?

Archduke Frantz Fanon
Sep 7, 2004

Corky Romanovsky posted:

So the food crisis was overblown, or the USAID experts wanted kids to starve?

the entire trump admin was tv poisoned boomers so they just thought that everyone in vz is starving so clearly we need to send this stuff so there wasn’t anyone to say “no that’s just propaganda we’re don’t actually need to send that”

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

The US is very concerned with food access in Venezuela. They've been sanctioning people involved in the food distribution program, CLAP, for years.
https://twitter.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1174763629696208903?s=20

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

TeenageArchipelago posted:

especially because it turned out that it was someone on the columbian side of the border who did it. Threw a molotov and the cloth fell out

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/10/world/americas/venezuela-aid-fire-video.html

my favourite thing about this NY Times article is this bit

quote:

At one point, a homemade bomb made from a bottle is hurled toward the police, who were blocking a bridge connecting Colombia and Venezuela to prevent the aid trucks from getting through.

But the rag used to light the Molotov cocktail separates from the bottle, flying toward the aid truck instead.

Half a minute later, that truck is in flames.

The same protester can be seen 20 minutes earlier, in a different video, hitting another truck with a Molotov cocktail, without setting it on fire.

"it was totally accidental that he set the truck alight. also he tried to do so 20 minutes before, but that's unrelated, honest"

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

https://twitter.com/OliverStuenkel/status/1387925206619103235

thank goodness we talked them out of accepting vaccines from the bad countries while making sure to hoard our own like a dragon and snarl at anyone who gets too close to it

THS
Sep 15, 2017

mortons stork posted:

lol do you remember having to argue with like half of dnd that actually the 'aid convoy' that all major aid orgs wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole was maybe kinda sus
also that the guy who set it on fire wasn't probably actually an agent provocateur of the maduro regime

i remember all of it. that d&d latin america thread at the time was atrocious. just loving awful

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

falling for coup narratives by trump, elliot abrams, and bolton

love me love me love me im a liberal

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
i recall some dnd goons getting really irritated about elliot being brought up

"yes we know a murderous ghoul is running the show, can we discuss the things that really matter now"

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna
what happened to the bird avi dude in sweden we were all supposed to listen to whose entire gimmick was posting "things couldn't possibly be worse than they are now, so why not put Guaido in charge? cmooooon"

e: also racism doesn't exist in Venezuela and it's IMPERIALIST of you to impose that sort of social framework on a non-american country

Zedhe Khoja has issued a correction as of 10:11 on May 1, 2021

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Zedhe Khoja posted:

what happened to the bird avi dude in sweden we were all supposed to listen to whose entire gimmick was posting "things couldn't possibly be worse than they are now, so why not put Guaido in charge? cmooooon"

Lol at him vanishing after people found his let's play thread

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Zedhe Khoja posted:

what happened to the bird avi dude in sweden we were all supposed to listen to whose entire gimmick was posting "things couldn't possibly be worse than they are now, so why not put Guaido in charge? cmooooon"

lol i remember when the dinguses in dnd were yelling about how you need to listen to venezuelans and then it turned out the venezuelan they demanded we uncritically listen to was some rich failson living the high life in goddamn sweden and they didn't learn a loving thing

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna

Jose posted:

Lol at him vanishing after people found his let's play thread

i don't actually recall this part of the story

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Tiler Kiwi posted:

i recall some dnd goons getting really irritated about elliot being brought up

"yes we know a murderous ghoul is running the show, can we discuss the things that really matter now"

you can't cite past actions and outcomes because they have no relation to this thread

Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011

Corky Romanovsky posted:

you can't cite past actions and outcomes because they have no relation to this thread

we've discussed this already. read the OP. we're not going to rehash what was already said. read the OP. you're just kramering in to offer your yankee views about mass slaughter funded by your nation in South America for over a century while ignoring what the people of Venezuela have been crying out for. read the OP.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat

Zedhe Khoja posted:

i don't actually recall this part of the story

neither do I, but they might have been thread banned instead of simply disappearing

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Tiler Kiwi
Feb 26, 2011
I want the whole scoop, it deserves to be archived in the pyf saga thread

e: if he was a cia plant i want the cia to know, as ik of this communist hotbed, i am extremely fond of bribes.

Tiler Kiwi has issued a correction as of 10:35 on May 1, 2021

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