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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

GoluboiOgon posted:

is this like some sort of cia gofundme pitch? just lol at this group, which doesn't even have enough supplies or people to hold a decent picnic, but is plotting an armed takeover of a country of 30 million with 8 people armed with handguns.

there were a bunch of insane vietnamese expat groups that kept grifting funding to overthrow the communist government and probably killed some local journalists when they started asking where the money was going

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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Chokes McGee posted:

... getting people with aids killed?

She was reportedly "the blowjob queen of Hollywood"

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

The bit where a prominent opposition official died because he got drugged and robbed by the prostitutes he hired is incredibly funny

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

They literally cant organize an gently caress in a brothel lol

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


Another general would have gone along with the coup but he had to wash his hair that night

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

https://twitter.com/jackryanamazon/...ingawful.com%2F

Lmao

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

comedyblissoption posted:

capitalism as an ideology is unassailable and has never engineered a famine or genocide for profit otherwise i would have heard about it by now

I know you're doing an irony here but I'm going to use it to recommend Mike Davis' Late Victorian Holocausts if you want something on the subject

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

536 posted:

and they were starving for 2+ years before because of their own gov? so both are bad. starving isn't this magical thing that just started because trump is bad.

Serious response: the core of the crisis is that oil shocks and other economic trouble led to a decrease in subsidy for imported food. The problem is that VZ is an economy that depends on selling oil and buying everything else. (It should be noted that there isn't a shortage of food like in a famine but a lack of money to buy the food) The arguments against the govt management are basically that they mismanaged the state expenditures and thus they couldn't afford to subsidize the food. But the country was already going to be facing severe financial problems, theres absolutely no evidence that any US friendly opposition wouldnt just also be incredibly corrupt except siphoning money to US interests, and the US has been prolonging the crisis by loving with their finances. For comparison, VZ had major food shocks in 1989 and 1998 (might have that second date off a bit) from basically the same causes while under a US friendly pro capitalist govt- in 89 unrest escalated to the point the govt was gunning down hundreds of people and assassinating dissidents

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Frijolero posted:

Not to mention that the historically-loving-bonkers drops in oil price in 2008 and again in 2014 were both caused by the US.

Like the debt crises of the 80s (which caused the 89 riots) that's probably more of a happy side effect

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Fast Luck posted:

the term holodomor was invented specifically to try to draw comparison between a famine in a socialist country and the Nazi's intentional plan to exterminate the jews. The same statistics used to tally up holodomor death totals, if applied to the US during the great "dust bowl" would return similar numbers, but for some reason it's only a holo-something when it happened in the USSR.

I'm going to push back a little here- wasn't holodomor used before WW2 started? Not that it hasnt been since

536 posted:

uhh im starting to think you haven't read anything about either of these events. did the dust bowl kill millions or did the holodomor only kill tens of thousands?

because they are not even remotely similar. and one wasn't deliberating made.

Better examples include "literally anything the British did."

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

World War Mammories posted:

you would really benefit from reading that Late Victorian Holocausts book, or even just its wikipedia entry

Yeah the stuff about the dust bowl is kinda dumb but LVH does a good job of explaining not only how the empire maliciously exacerbated- but not directly caused- the famines, and how it exemplifies the creation of the "developing world"

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Dreylad posted:

it's pretty easy to find fault with the current Venezuelan government with respect to the food ongoing food crisis -- the price fixing has lead to people reselling cheap food in colombia --- but the idea that if the government got rid of maduro, changed some of its economic policies with respect to food, but didn't install a US-friendly leader that everything would go back to normal is hilarious and wrong.

Yeah i agree here- its not like maduro cant be criticized (I also listened to that RWN interview) but that 99% of the legitiimate criticism is just going to equally apply to whoever replaces him. Like Guiado's people literally, literally can't organize a gently caress in a whorehouse without getting robbed and murdered and yet theyre supposed to reform the oil companies, magic up tax revenue, crack down on corruption, and establish a more (allegedly) democratic system? The US doesnt give a poo poo as long as the money they previously used in bread and circuses instead goes to the Exxon child prostitute fund. Its not that Maduro is a saint but that the forces he represents are good and its not like the opposition is any more competent

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Condiv posted:

an anonymous source has informed me that maduro posts on something awful, and if you empty quote this post for 5 pages he will bestow the sword of bolivar upon c-spam

Stay safe bolivar's ghost

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

I still can't get over Max Blumenthal being Sid Blumemthal's son

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Wasnt there a Puerto Rico thread somewhere? I remember a couple of good articles about it but I cant find them

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Look I just have an unhealthy appreciation for NATO symbology because I'm big into wargames

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

John Bolton was tolerating child abuse on e/n? Wow

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

MonsieurChoc posted:

The funny thing about Maximillian is he was too left-wing for his supporters, but was still a loving imperialist monarch for his enemies.

Louis Phillipe syndrome

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

:d2a:

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Mister Bates posted:

wait which government officials did MLK kidnap again, my memory is a bit fuzzy

Not enough

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Surprisingly decent article on that expat nutbar in Chile from WaPo:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/11/11/john-cobin-chile-shooting-protesters-video/

Make it to the end for some bonus ACAB

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=CB4xpqNSYpk

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Venezuela guy very much doesn't have the military lined up for him

The best thing about this is that the most credible allegations of corruption against Maduro amounted to buying off the military. Gee I wonder why he did that.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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Prince Myshkin posted:

George Washington voluntarily stepping down after two terms is a big part of the founding mythology of the white devil nation.

"No re-election" was a thing in at least Mexican politics, and in theory breaking up cults of personality and making it harder for individuals to accumulate power is good; but in practice its 100% a bullshit excuse to kick the pinkos out and sell off the country to American corps

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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Al! posted:

again, the push for expanded term limits in this country started with the cato institute, basically the world's most powerful and biggest neoliberal think tank outside of the von mises institute

Sure. I'd even add that in the current situation when the left wing is relatively weak its generally a hindrance to it, and even the problems with it aren't generally worse than being looted by Pinochet Jr

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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RIP Syndrome posted:

How about a four-year life span for corporations.

I also support the Diablo 2 ladder approach to capitalism

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.


Drawing the conclusion that right wingers mad at the Pope are a CIA psyop now

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

The right wingers just hate the pope because he's a cynical liberal and crypto-atheist if the poles around me are any indicator

There's a particular conspiracy theory going around that he's secretly advancing paganism which I suspect is related to that Bolivian guy. That and the usual hatred of the poor and indigenous of course.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I hope they crucify all those demon crackers.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Majorian posted:

Holy poo poo, does that mean the Eastern Roman Empire is still around?:hellyeah:

The Empire Never Ended

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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Condiv posted:

wow these opposition supporters are very woke people

Lmao holy poo poo

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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Fast Luck posted:

Fascist cops and coup leaders are tearing down the indigenous flag and rounding up the poor. Basically the entire MAS party has had to flee and claim asylum for their own safety. This is a party, mind you, that had a strong democratic majority; that is supported by over half the populace. How will the coup government rule? Thousands if not tens of thousands are going to be killed, with ten times that number becoming refugees. I hope the liberals wringing their hands about the supreme court’s abolition of term limits come to reckon with this reality. It’s seriously distressing to consider the reality of the tragedy we are seeing unfold.

its cool how even taking all the claims of fraud at 100% face value morales still won like 40%+ of the vote and a clear plurality

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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Dreylad posted:

I'm not really well informed on latin american politics and US backed coups but this one in particular seems really poorly run compared to others in the past.

The CIA seems particularly unhinged in this couo

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

We're circling around the John Dolan thesis that Obama was the perfect imperial President

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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Given that there's been a huge uproar about indigenous religious practices in right wing Catholic media recently I wonder how many of those people are CIA

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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Plutonis posted:

I thought those were attacks against Pope Francis because during the Amazon Synod he received Indigeneous religious leaders and said that their practices should be tolerated and the Trads went loving berserk

That's pretty much the short version. A lot of the original criticism came from LA fascist groups like Tradition Family Property (who tried to murder Pope John Paul for being a deep cover Trotskyist) and since it coincides with attacks on indigenous people in Brazil, Bolivia, and elsewhere the conspiracy part of my brain is buzzing

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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Wait who is the cult lady and whos the "purge the indigenous" lady in all this?

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:

Extinction Rebellion is the enemy if nobodies figured it out yet

XR Intellegence

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StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

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lmao thats some Man in the High Castle poo poo

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