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WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

All 3 are fascists, so it checks out.

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WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

ZearothK posted:

Something I've been wondering is why does the state department bother manufacturing consent for foreign intervention, such as what we are going to be seeing about Castillo? It is not like public opinion is relevant for any Washington policy, the fraction of people in the US who cares about what happens in Latin America is not large enough to influence elections (other than pandering to the Gusano demographic in Miami, I guess?) and almost no one would even know what they are doing if they didn't have op-eds from Mengele-Eichman saying how important it is to support a coup or rat-fuckery in the Americas. It is not even relevant for the legitimacy of the foreign policy itself, as the politcally relevant characters often already have their minds set. Even as propaganda it is kind of dubious, because here in Brazil I only see the clearly devout parroting those points.

Is it like a vanity project? Another form of Wingnut Welfare? Did someone at the CIA figure out they could get paid to post?

The fraction of people in the US who care about what happens in Latin America is so low precisely because the US is so good at propaganda and has spent decades making its people as incapable as possible of understanding anything beyond US borders.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Wasn't it concluded it was literally just crickets chirping?

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Hong Kong will almost certainly have been studied by Cuba and these protests will go absolutely nowhere and there won't be the 'brutal crackdown' the West is gagging for. In HK there were at least the children of former colonial officials to bulk out the crowds, genuine gusanos with an actual class interest in the outcome have already fled Cuba.

WhiskeyWhiskers has issued a correction as of 02:22 on Jul 12, 2021

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


https://twitter.com/OrlenysOV/status/1414397107121840130

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

reignonyourparade posted:

Both gone, what were they?





Disappointing they posted it, but glad they took it down.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

The way you beat it is to support Cuba.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Pretty cool shot of the front of the crowd
https://twitter.com/manolo_realengo/status/1416408747417735170

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

I still have no idea why they haven't gone with the tried and tested, "Here's some IMF loans, please destroy your country now."

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Atrocious Joe posted:

I didn't put the tweet saying the crowd size was 100k because that was a bit too much of a stretch for me

still far bigger than any anti-government mobilization so far

I don't know, I wouldn't be at all surprised. Look at these shots.

https://twitter.com/EmbaCubaUS/status/1416433530310123523

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Seems a pretty ridiculous swing. What could possibly cause that sort of momentum shift?

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Doubt the Yanks did much to help her escape either. Absolutely no benefit to them after she failed to crush the people and was an absolute nobody before the coup, so no friends.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:

So apparently this is why the Cuba op failed, lol. The Guaido stooge-to-be was Cuban intelligence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1qezipvu5E

Edit: nm, looks like its an older op but still the same scam.

lmfao. The exact same thing happened in Venezuela too.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Atrocious Joe posted:

Canada's main export is imperialist girl bosses

It's a value-add on its main import, Ukrainian fascists.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1462642678433263618

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Plutonis posted:

Except the terrain and jungle makes rail real hard to lay

lol, they built highspeed rail in loving Tibet and are currently building tunnels through the Himalayas.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

https://twitter.com/pablonav1/status/1472492299632402438

Well if he were running in Australia or New Zealand.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

forkboy84 posted:

"Libertarian socialist (which means nothing)" lol what? No idea who Ben Norton but it's pretty clear what it means

Nah he's right. It's like Yanks calling themselves democratic socialists. They're all just social democrats with new and improved radical branding.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

https://twitter.com/catcontentonly/status/1473004753575628813

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

vyelkin posted:

Of course you can wish somebody further left had won, but when the chips are down I'd take a soft-left leader over a fascist any day.

Rosa spinning in her grave. I'm glad he won, but it almost certainly heralds far greater crises in the future and crises he's likely to be on the wrong side of.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Yeah, it all comes from liberal 'bumbling empire theory.'

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

lmao if you think Venezuelan leadership is dumb enough to trust the US to not immediately rat gently caress them if they were to cut ties with Iran, Cuba and Russia and go all in with the US.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

lollontee posted:

gaddafi was

And Libya served as a lesson to everyone that no one's going to forget.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

TeenageArchipelago posted:

Just thinking about how the conservative church that I went to when I was a kid told us a story about Cuba. They said that the Cubans had all of the students in a classroom put their heads down and pray to God for ice cream, and then look to see that they didn't have any ice cream. Then they prayed to Fidel Castro for ice cream, and when they looked they had ice cream. The dude who told us this story must have thought that it totally owned the communists who lied about God but Fidel actually did give the kids ice cream??? Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

Was the moral of the story supposed to be that Fidel, unwittingly, is a servant of His Almighty and works towards His will of answering the ice cream prayers of children?

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


I like that this tweet is made every two months, and it's never not good.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Atrocious Joe posted:

the supposed outrage is because Cuba often receives more money from a country for the doctor's services than the doctor is paid

And it's so exploitative that those volunteering overseas are paid [checks notes] often more than six times their normal domestic salary.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

indigi posted:

how come Cuba didn’t include gay marriage when they redid the constitution a few years ago? I read an article claiming that the ruling party left it out cause they just didn’t want it to happen but that seems off

They completely removed any definition of marriage from the constitution so that it could be more easily handled by legislation in the future.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

indigi posted:

seems like it would have been more easily handled by putting it in the constitution five years ago, why the feet dragging

Sure, until you want to update the definition of marriage again and have to go through the huge pain of changing a constitution again. Honestly, it's a weird thing to define in a constitution anyway.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

I mean I will say that the non-binding plebiscite on same-sex marriage in Australia loving sucked and gave way too much space to homo- and transphobes. Just legislating these changes isn't any less democratic, but if it's a shoe-in and you can actually punish anti-social views I guess it's pretty neat to show off your people's progressive views globally.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


lol. Surely it's more likely that the internet is down for the same reason the power is out.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

It's so loving funny to me that they still claim that there were major protests that shook the legitimacy of the Cuban government last year when they had to use footage of pro-government rallies as evidence of thousands of people taking to the streets.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Can you loving imagine looking at Latin America today and thinking the problems of the continent stem from the US ignoring it for too long.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Just makes it even more pathetic that caricom bent over and supported the intervention in principle.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Weka posted:

Describing classes of people as not people is the sort of behaviour fascists engage in.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

Mr. Lobe posted:

I wonder what the story is with the 3 US flags

Probably wanker 'Patsocs'.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

i say swears online posted:

yeah that's the difference between open-list and closed-list proportional systems. open-list seems to give a lot more power to voters and i like that but dunno how often it gums up the party leader's plans. i guess if they're on the list they're fine with the leader and platform

We've got both in Australia and basically everyone just chooses to vote closed-list so it almost never matters. And until like 10 years ago if you wanted to vote open-list in Australia you would have to preference all the candidates in your state, so like 60-70+.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

crepeface posted:

is the cia loving around in South America again or did they just never stop

I mean come on, you have to know the answer to this.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1608992664879333376

lol. lmao. They didn't even replace him with anyone. They're still claiming all the seized assets though. Very legal and Very cool.

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WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013

"Well your honour, the United States wants us to have that money. Something something rules-based order. I rest my case."

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