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Like am I wrong to assume that Death Stranding probably has all of Silent Hills original ideas likely adapted for it, or does the timeline not support that possibility, I forget the whens of everything
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You’d wrong to assume that because there’s no way you could possibly know whether or not it’s true
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There's probably an inspiration there, because many of the Silent Hill games had a distinct theme to their hell dimensions. Rust in 2, flesh in 3, ice in Shattered Memories, water in Downpour; Death Stranding appears to have war.
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I think Kojima adapted his planned ideas for Silent Hill to this game, but I don't think it's going to be recognizable that this was in any way a Silent Hill game. For instance, probably no joke jar babies or piss mushrooms in Silent Hill. They might be in there, but it wouldn't be whimsy.
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net cafe scandal posted:You’d wrong to assume that because there’s no way you could possibly know whether or not it’s true It could be an educated guess based on the director's previous history 
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Death Stranding: Norman Reedus pees and carries fetus
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bear is driving! posted:The fact that they refer to a "chrial network" and "chiral allergy" may have something to do with the worlds being mirrors, maybe? Chirality is a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality_(chemistry) I guarantee you kojima understand chirality just enough to get it all wrong in the most entertaining ways. Lookin' forward to these ghost babies.
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Just saw someone in a completely unrelated thread melting down about this game so good job Kojima.
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Aug 22, 2019 21:05
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Norman "Fetus Piss" Reedus
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marktheando posted:Just saw someone in a completely unrelated thread melting down about this game so good job Kojima. Link?
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bear is driving! posted:The fact that they refer to a "chrial network" and "chiral allergy" may have something to do with the worlds being mirrors, maybe? Chirality is a real thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirality_(chemistry) yeah he's definitely going for something like that. but i dunno if it's going to be more than "hey this word sounds cool and has something to do with mirrors." though your two hands are chiral objects. which might be why there's 'hand' imagery everywhere.
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Chiral is going to be the new wolbachia which was the new nanomachines.
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marktheando posted:Just saw someone in a completely unrelated thread melting down about this game so good job Kojima. You can't post this without a link.
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I just want to be able to hit someone with the ladder and I'll be satisfied.
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Black August posted:Like am I wrong to assume that Death Stranding probably has all of Silent Hills original ideas likely adapted for it, or does the timeline not support that possibility, I forget the whens of everything  This is a spiritual sequel to the most recent Metal Gear game, Metal Gear Survive. In Survive, the protagonist is cast into a parallel universe and must find ways to make connections to the people and objects from the original universe in order to bridge the worlds and find a way home
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Spite posted:yeah he's definitely going for something like that. but i dunno if it's going to be more than "hey this word sounds cool and has something to do with mirrors." In physics chiral objects are things that either have left handedness or right handedness... to describe this type of symmetry but actually 'handedness' was the concept that came first as chiral comes from Chir, the greek word for 'hand' There are some particles which don't exhibit chirality, and some where their right handed variants either fundamentally cannot exist or do not interact with other particles in our universe, meaning there could be a literal mirror universe that they do exist in superimposed on ours albiet with different physics which is inaccessible to us You can think of it like, if I spin this top to the left it spins just fine, but if I spin it to the right it blips out of existence, or blips into a mirror universe Interestingly a woman from near Shanghai who was married to Yuan Shikai's grandson was the first to prove this but experimentalists rarely get the fame of theoreticians, especially women of color Modest Mao fucked around with this message at 00:41 on Aug 23, 2019 |
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I watched this and while most Kojima theory crafting videos are dumb, this one makes some compelling arguments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr4RvdREwl8
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Look Sir Droids posted:Chiral is going to be the new wolbachia which was the new nanomachines.
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We know that Norman Peedus, but what about Mads' Mikkelshlong?
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And lest we forget our pal Guillermo del Dicko
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Modest Mao posted:There are some particles which don't exhibit chirality, and some where their right handed variants either fundamentally cannot exist or do not interact with other particles in our universe, meaning there could be a literal mirror universe that they do exist in superimposed on ours albiet with different physics which is inaccessible to us That's very interesting. In biochemistry chirality applies to any complex asymmetrical molecule. Chiral organic molecules only function properly with other appropriately chiral molecules, in the same way that you can easily shake someone's hand right-to-right, but if you try to shake someone's left hand with your right hand they don't line up properly and you have to do a weird different sort of grip. One of the bigger implications of this is how literally every amino acid in every organism on the planet is left handed, if you were to eat food from the mirror universe where all the proteins were made out of right-handed amino acids, even though the food would have identical chemical properties; it would cook the same, look the same, feel the same, have the same melting points, flash points, etc, you would still starve to death because your ribosomes are built to use left-handed only, and just couldn't use the right-handed amino acids to build your proteins.
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pop fly to McGillicutty posted:Death Stranding: Norman Reedus pees and carries fetus My name is Norman Reedus and I'm in town with my fetus
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Holy poo poo I just realized this is a retelling of Lone Wolf and Cub. Kojima does it again!
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Have we actually seen Norman in the nightmare/other world? We've seen Guillermo del Pisso and mads dickleson there but not Norman Fetus
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Donovan Trip posted:Have we actually seen Norman in the nightmare/other world? We've seen Guillermo del Pisso and mads dickleson there but not Norman Fetus One of the trailers had him crouch walking next to a WWI tank and I think another showed him in a dark void, which I think is what happens when you die. Gonna pee on a tank.
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Donovan Trip posted:Have we actually seen Norman in the nightmare/other world? We've seen Guillermo del Pisso and mads dickleson there but not Norman Fetus I think the very first trailer where Sam's naked and the trailer where there's a tall weird alien thing in the distance and then an explosion that plunges Sam underwater, that those were both in the alternate world
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acksplode posted:I think the very first trailer where Sam's naked and the trailer where there's a tall weird alien thing in the distance and then an explosion that plunges Sam underwater, that those were both in the alternate world those two trailers both had BT's present, and they only manifest like that in our world the WW1 re-enactment though is definitely on the other side. did any other games besides The Darkness use the trenches as a Hell analogue?
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Oxxidation posted:at some point before the game's events a Bad Thing happened that somehow smashed together the real world and the afterlife, which resulted in such fun phenomena as the "timefall" (raindrops are now literally full of time, which results in rapid aging of anything that gets caught in the rain without proper protection), the BT's or "Beached Things" (refugees/phantoms from the afterlife that act aggressively towards anyone in our world and can't be detected without extremely specialized equipment), and predicaments like those for Heartman (who's routinely yanked into the afterlife and back) or Mama (her baby was somehow born into the other side, resulting in her being literally tied down by its umbilical cord if she wants it to go on living). people caught by the BT's are dragged down to the other side and generate massive explosions, which might be related to the theory of relativity in some vague way. thanks to all this stuff, the world is in pieces, humanity's hanging on by a thread, and civilization has broken down. several courier groups such as BRIDGES and FRAGILE exist to maintain some semblance of connection and cooperation between the isolated outposts of mankind, while terrorist groups like Homo Demens are gleefully trying to cut everyone off from each other for good This is good however theres a few things you are missing. For a start the Bad Thing that happened is the titular Death Stranding. Sam I'm guessing was physically affected by that by his body developing a chiral allergy which I"m guessing means he is literally allergic to other people (hence why I suspect why Deadman and Goeff Keighley are shown communicating to him through holograms) and also the ability to sense BTs he shares this condition with Fragile and Higgs. I Also suspect that his pregnant wife also died during the Death Stranding as well as Heartman's family. Lnidsay Wagner's character is the former president of the united states and after the Death Stranding has been working to bring the country back together through the delivery company Bridges as well as connecting pockets of civilization up to the chiral network. In the Pre-Death Stranding days a similar network to the chiral network was established and used by Mads' Cliff to cause the Death Stranding. On her deathbed she asks Sam to continue her work seeing as how nobody else in Birdges is capable of doing the work (Heartman literally dies every twenty one minutes, Mama has her BT baby, Deadman is some kind of scientist and isn't able to do the task, Die-Hardman I'm guessing is some kind of bureaucrat in charge of running Bridges or has some other kind of deal going on with him.) I got a lot of this stuff just by watching a video of all the trailers played back to back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xURNe6Svd68 Oxxidation posted:the WW1 re-enactment though is definitely on the other side. did any other games besides The Darkness use the trenches as a Hell analogue? I think there was Necrovision, but I'm not sure. David D. Davidson fucked around with this message at 00:17 on Aug 26, 2019 |
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Oxxidation posted:those two trailers both had BT's present, and they only manifest like that in our world Clive Barkers Jericho had a level that was hell WW2.
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Leaked cellphone footage of some behind the curtains death stranding stuff- 7 minutes from the start of the game. https://streamable.com/mjddp
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Donovan Trip posted:Leaked cellphone footage of some behind the curtains death stranding stuff- 7 minutes from the start of the game. https://streamable.com/mjddp Exciting stuff, I wonder what gets Sam on board with everyone else?
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lol the handcuffs they wear are just "symbols of their carnal bonds". There goes my theory they were some kind of connection to another world person
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https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/1165761470694445056?s=20 🤔
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Lol it's gonna be a straight walking sim where all the weird stuff we've seen in trailers so far is just poo poo Norman Reedus thinks about while he pees.
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