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zealouscub
Feb 18, 2020

Kangxi posted:

I was asked on one of the Paradox games discords to provide a map, so here is the Eastern Hemisphere in 1579.




The Taira need to clean up Japan's borders and I don't know who, but somebody needs to clean up the messes in Persia and Central Asia.

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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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zealouscub posted:

The Taira need to clean up Japan's borders and I don't know who, but somebody needs to clean up the messes in Persia and Central Asia.

Is it going to be us?

Also, should we try and do conglomeration with the rest of the "HRE" as it were?

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

Technowolf posted:

Impressive, considering that the Amhara people are an Cushitic group native to northern Ethiopia.
Not as impressive as the Turks who may have migrated from as far as the steppes of western China to conquer and settle the same area, in our reality.

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
Third Formal Session of the Assembly of the Elector-Kingdom of Tibet



There is one question, there can only be one question.



That little religious movement that popped up in Delhi decades ago, sure, that was a one time thing. They could be bought off. There could be a kind of co-existence.



While the king has been playing with his toy boats, there has been a growing discontent in the countryside. It has been spreading in the cities, in the universities, and in the great publishing houses, in the tea shops where everyone talks. The priests whisper about it and cannot stifle the furious debates in their lecture halls. A campaign of whispers has spread through the crown lands of Tibet itself.


The dispute is not over doctrine, or practice, as they usually are, but over history - events of three centuries ago. Restorationists, so they call themselves, claim to have uncovered evidence that the Sacred Hierarchy has concealed the life and death of the holy woman Pakmodru Tse, and killed her as part of a conspiracy to hide the secrets of life. A priest and writer named Indra Byanjanakar, from Chyasal, claims to have discovered written testimony by a courtier asserting that the former Empress, Pelmo II, was a secret Buddhist and conspired with her court to assassinate a holy woman in front of her entire court.

This is only one cause for anger. There are many who see the remaining wealth and power of the hierarchy, its possession of lands, and its undue societal influence as the reason for Tibet's stagnation over the past century. But with rising living standards over the past century, the cities are crowded with the young, the educated, and the angry.


The Sacred Hierarchy demands the total destruction of those under the spell of delusion. They offend the local gods. They offend the basic principles of morality. They disgrace nature. They lie about the founders of the church. They would destroy all stable society. They must be destroyed. All entities - cities, princedoms, kingdoms - which have adopted the Restorationist heresy must be destroyed. Some, some, may be granted independence again provided they stay with the faith.


The Restorationists cannot tolerate the existence of the corrupted Hierarchy anymore. They know the truth. They know that the church is predicated upon concealing the truth, about how the second founder returned and was slain by a vast conspiracy. They would argue for a dissolution of the military alliance with the Sacred Hierarchy, and a war of annexation to end its independent existence. Tibet must be restored, and the great campaigns and glory of the past will be resumed.

As before, please put one of the above flags into your post to signal what faction you are now representing. More so than before, this will affect Tibet's actions, as well as the compsition and attitudes of the rest of the separate Empire.

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb





the truth is out there people :tinfoil:

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker


Unify the nation. Purge the shame of the crypto-Buddhists.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011



I don't know about all this conspiracy business, but the hierarchy never WAS meant to be separate from the crown in the first place. Its independence is an aberration, and this presents an excellent opportunity to correct it.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Gravity Cant Apple
Jun 25, 2011

guys its just like if you had an apple with a straw n you poked the apple though wit it n a pebbl hadnt dropped through itd stop straw insid the apple because gravity cant apple


The Sacred Hierarchy has robbed us of the second coming of Tse! The ire of the gods has surely been directed at us since this heinous act. We have seen our nation fall from its heights as the strongest and most influential in the world to one that has lost its grip on its former now-squabbling subjects, at times being forced to grovel and hail these pretenders as emperor! We have no choice but to immediately break all ties with the Sacred Hierarchy, who were surely working with the heathen empress to bring about our downfall. Then we must seek restitution for these despicable crimes by bringing them to heel and purging the rot from their very core. Only then will the gods smile upon us again.

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012



How many times must we do away with these delusions, these lies? The False Tse continues to fool the gullible and be used as a tool by rebels and traitors to Tibet! The True Tse would know what to do with these liars- as she did when she founded our Sacred Hierarchy, they would be put to sword and torch, and in her name and in the name of the gods, we must not falter! Death to every Restorationist, to their corrupted princes, to their hierophants, to their rabble-rousers, and their sympathizers! We can not allow them to hide anywhere in our Empire or beyond!

In the name of the True Tse, deny these lies!

Chatrapati
Nov 6, 2012

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.



Attack and dethrone those who claim to speak for the gods.

They do not.

Rubix Squid
Apr 17, 2014

Viola the Mad
Feb 13, 2010


:getin:

jalapeno_dude
Apr 10, 2015


Changing your interpretation of history based on textual evidence is very enlightened.

Albino Squirrel
Apr 25, 2003

Miosis more like meiosis

Tibet must be restored, and the great campaigns and glory of the past will be resumed.

zealouscub
Feb 18, 2020

Deadmeat5150
Nov 21, 2005

OLD MAN YELLS AT CLAN

idhrendur
Aug 20, 2016

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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The sacred and mundane must be rejoined, and the power of the sacred hierarchy to help it's people is waning.

They may believe what they wish, but they cannot be allowed to oppress others any further!

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?


Advance the Tse plot, yes.

Obliterati
Nov 13, 2012

Pain is inevitable.
Suffering is optional.
Thunderdome is forever.


What vain fool would even try to break the cycle?

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P



[In the Assembly of the Elector-Kingdom of Tibet]

The Second Tse: death, death-.

Indra Byanjanakar: death, DEATH-.

Entire court [pounding tablets]: DEATH, DEATH, DEATH!

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.


YOU FOOLS! THE REVENANT TSE WILL BE THE END OF US ALL!

e: OOC, Tse came back as a secret Buddhist, which she shared with Tsenmo Purgyal Pelmo II, but not the actual Empress who had her killed. Tsenmo Purgyal Pongza 'the Just' was a zealous, upright Bodpa Empress. So all the people voting for Tse are actually voting for secret Buddhism, not a "reform" of the Bon heirarchy.

habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Aug 4, 2020

Gravity Cant Apple
Jun 25, 2011

guys its just like if you had an apple with a straw n you poked the apple though wit it n a pebbl hadnt dropped through itd stop straw insid the apple because gravity cant apple
The secret Buddhism was a test for the empress, one which she failed.

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

habeasdorkus posted:



YOU FOOLS! THE REVENANT TSE WILL BE THE END OF US ALL!

e: OOC, Tse came back as a secret Buddhist, which she shared with Tsenmo Purgyal Pelmo II, but not the actual Empress who had her killed. Tsenmo Purgyal Pongza 'the Just' was a zealous, upright Bodpa Empress. So all the people voting for Tse are actually voting for secret Buddhism, not a "reform" of the Bon heirarchy.

ChocolatePancake
Feb 25, 2007


:getin:

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010
Don't mind me, I'm moving my stuff to a cozy manor in the Spice Islands

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."

I love this. I'm putting it in the OP.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


habeasdorkus posted:



YOU FOOLS! THE REVENANT TSE WILL BE THE END OF US ALL!

e: OOC, Tse came back as a secret Buddhist, which she shared with Tsenmo Purgyal Pelmo II, but not the actual Empress who had her killed. Tsenmo Purgyal Pongza 'the Just' was a zealous, upright Bodpa Empress. So all the people voting for Tse are actually voting for secret Buddhism, not a "reform" of the Bon heirarchy.

That is the most entertaining form of Buddhism

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Not a single one of you deserve a proper sky burial.

Mr.Morgenstern
Sep 14, 2012

Pffft. All this talk of honoring the gods with proper rites. Everyone knows the REAL way to honor the gods is to devour their flesh, as the primitive but noble Europeans do.

Coward
Sep 10, 2009

I say we take off and surrender unconditionally from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure



.


What is this madness? This petty desire to cleave to whatever lie makes an individual claim more knowledge in one breath than those who have spent a lifetime at the seat of wisdom? This urge to fell the pillars of Heaven simply because one thinks they can simply deny that they are the pillars of Heaven? Only Buddhists would seek to destroy the glory of centuries!

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012


The Revisionists seek to upend harmony over a rumor. They would seek to burn heaven over a lie. How many charlatans calling themselves Tse have come and gone? These are grievances of the petty exacerbated by those too kind or sympathetic to see through the lies.

Iolite
May 9, 2009
All is as it was foretold.

megane posted:

Centuries from now, religious scholars are going to have fits.



Bring forth the enlightenment!

Lynneth
Sep 13, 2011


Bloody hell, so many reformers.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Lynneth posted:



Bloody hell, so many reformers BUDDHISTS.

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

megane
Jun 20, 2008



Iolite posted:

All is as it was foretold.

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Dr_Gee
Apr 26, 2008

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