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Freudian
Mar 23, 2011

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Mar 22, 2013

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Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.


Our history, once carefully whitewashed by the Sacred Hierarchy, is now known to be stained with the blood of one of our empire's founding mothers; it is a crime that cries out for redress. The truth must out, and those who would conceal it from us brought to heel.

For this day forward, let the spirit of the great Pakmodru Tse guide our actions.

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
:siren: The vote will conclude at 9 PM EST tomorrow. :siren:

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!


I just like this little guy, he's very cute.

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
:siren: POLLS ARE CLOSED :siren:

Factional Realignment:


Sacred Hierarchy: 8 (Lord Cyrahzax, Chatrapati, habeasdorkus, Coward, Xelkelvos, Lynneth, Ikasuhito, Ferrovanadium)


Restorationists: 24 (ThatBasqueGuy, AJ_Impy, Rody One Half, Crazycryodude, Gravity Cant Apple, Akratic Method, Rubix Squid, Viola the Mad, jalapeno_dude, Albino Squirrel, zealouscub, Deadmeat5150, idhrendur, Josef bugman, GunnerJ, Obliterati, QuoProQuid, ChocolatePancake, lolite, megane, Dr_Gee, Freudian, Empress Theonora, Ralepozozaxe)


Policy Action:

With 32 votes counted, the Restorationists have 75% of the vote. This is a decisive influence..

Kangxi
Nov 12, 2016

"Too paranoid for you?"
"Not me, paranoia's the garlic in life's kitchen, right, you can never have too much."
Chapter 68: 1579 to 1590 - Let Justice be Done, Though the World Perish

[A historian's view, writing in a ruined Tang fort.]


In the first days of the year 1579, the Tibetan elector-king, ruler of the crownlands and elected head of the greater Tibetan Empire, severed an agreement made with the Sacred Hierarchy to defend and protect it in the case of military invasion.


This dramatic action was influenced by the advisors and court surrounding the emperor, who had given much support to Restorationists beliefs. Restorationist Bon, broadly defined, encompasses a series of movements and organizations which believed that the Sacred Hierarchy had profaned the eternal and unchanging principles of early Bon, and so had to be reformed or eliminated entirely. Their differences were vast, and not always equal to one another. Many were accommodating to the gods and legal systems of the south, others were more militant.

To give an example; there was a religious movement in Lhasa which had as their heads a sde srid, or Regent. This was because the core of their belief system was that all of the kings of Tibet for centuries were illegitimate; and so they were waiting for the rightful return of a just ruler that followed their principles.

It is doubtful these were the Restorationists who advised the reigning King Degyal.


The Restorationists were able to claim entire realms, which had serious consequences over the legitimacy of the Hierarchy, its most devoted followers, and the wealth of its monastic holdings.


The other major Bon kingdoms had little time to react. The closest major power, Rajputana, was embroiled in a civil war over the rights of the nobility. The Timurids were facing bankruptcy and ruin from yet another invasion.


The King himself, after this action to please those who flattered him and gain their positive attention, returned to his naval projects.


Ships sailed around the southern edge of the world and reached out to the great Kingdom of Kongo and its neighbor, the Anziku or Tyo Commonwealth.


The great Anatolian Empire feasted on the ruins of the Jeruslam Raj, and the Timurid successor state of Khozestan claimed much of the river trade to its east.


Rajputana came out of its period of internal conflict, and returned to an unsteady peace.


A herald soon came from there, and hoped to begin discussions to marry a distant cousin of Degyal I. These negotiations were swiftly concluded, as he did not want to remain in total isolation and hoped to find other allies.


He did note with some sadness that the Purgyal line in Rajputana had become extinct - an event which reduced the Purgyal hold on the vassal kings from its previous majority to only a select few.


All these more recent developments yet had financial benefit for the king and the wealthier residents of the great cities like Dhaka, the Nadia region, and Mrauk U,


The cities demanded the rights to petition the king and to vote in Parliament, and they were granted with minimal opposition from the king. The older nobility, however, resented these newcomers who intruded upon what they viewed as their prerogative and exclusive access to the monarchy.


The generals in the army trained, studied foreign wars, and made themselves useful in peacetime.


The news came from the merchants, that the great empire which had seized the world from the west had fallen and was no more. They were overthrown by their own greatest rivals, it was said, who had fought with them for centuries, recovered their land in a great rebellion, seized their cities, and drove their empire to the edges of the earth and extinguished their flames.


It may have been this story of fallen empires and lost glories that was a final reason for the nobles' rebellion of 1584; too many had held their anger silently at Degyal for his abuse of their power and ignorance of their requests.


With the benefit of surprise, the rebellious nobles drive the king's guards out of Lhasa.


A second rebel army was encountered by the more prepared garrison of Palkhorre Gongtsen's army in Darrang, on the north banks of the Brahmaputra River, and they were soon pursued and destroyed.


The loyalist armies then met up and moved on to relieve Lhasa,


Where the rebel armies were defeated, pursued to the road to Shigatse, and destroyed.

The noble Jetsun Pema Sal, before their death, was said to have told his co-conspirators, "Is it true that the king thinks he's won? We have tried most valiantly to save him, but now he is doomed. They will cut him apart like dry grass."

Soon after this, with his domestic opponents beaten, the King felt ready to invade the Sacred Hierarchy.

The historian cracks her neck and unclenches her jaw. She feels an ache in writing this.


The armies of the emperor marched east and took all of Markam and the lands of Qamdo without organized resistance.


The armies of the Sacred Hierarchy and the Elector-Kingdom of Tibet met in the valley outside of Dartsedo.


The Sacred Hierarchy, used to fighting troops on the frontier, crumbled and broke in the face of the Imperial Army. Their guards, wearing mail and plate over their priestly robes, fought to defend the upper ranks of the hierarchy, but were soon cut down by the pikes and shot of the King in Lhasa. All ritual, all sacred blessing, all devotion to the local gods, was swallowed up in the din of artillery, and if I were to relate all the things those priests and miracle workers did in that infernal place of cruelty, the world would stand by and wonder.

The historian looks up from her writing desk, set up in the ruined fort. She thinks of iron in motion and the stench of powder, of great banners inscribed with sacred symbols, the cannon she exulted in firing, and in leaving the battle, the sight of pastoralists picking metal scrap and stealing boots from the fields of dead.


Bursts of red light were seen over the night sky.


Dartsedo had fallen soon after.


King Degyal, happy and content after his military feats, died in bed with his treasures and the remnants of a victory feast around him.


His son, hurriedly declared King Tingngezin, would oversee the rule of these conquests.


This new annexation was enough to frighten and anger those remaining rulers who respected the power and divinity of the Sacred Hierarchy. Instead of viewing this as a short war for plunder, they realized it was a war that might end the institution as they knew it - they demanded a return of those conquered territories.

The young king refused. He had his first taste of glory, and he would not give it up so quickly.


He made precautions against any further unrest - having no children, he picked a noble from a distant branch of the Purgyals as his successor, who spoke Shan better than the Tibetan of Lhasa or Amdo,


and yet made up for his awkward behavior by his moral righteousness and constant demands for piety.


Still, the ports of Tibet remained open,


the diplomats from Lhasa continued to gather information on the outside world.


To the south, the empire ranckled as it once did. Malwa, once one of the greatest powers in the south and the only thing resembling a coherent threat to Tamil dominance, was set upon by a coalition of its opponents and cut down. One of the last Purgyal holdings in the south was brought to heel.


A warrior order of Restorationist monks was given much of its former territory.


In the east, the Sacred Hierarchy existed in the state after death, before the next life was determined - they were occupied by the Kingdom of Dali, and it was little known if the remaining ecclesiastic organizations could retain their independence or not.


Still recognizing the need to prove his honor and gain prestige in the eyes of his fellows, King Tingngezin declared a war of conquest on the Kingdom of Xia, named after a long-defunct Tangut Empire,


and with a wicked ruler that the Sacred Hierarchy had expelled from its embrace.


In a span of weeks, vast swathes of territory in old Amdo were conquered. As these were beyond a mountain range, the Xia were unable to reinforce them easily.


The court still attracted many brilliant nobles and diplomats, who were dispatched to all corners of the Sacred Tibetan Empire to gather information, locate the nobles strengths, and uncover their weaknesses for flattery and bribery.


King Tingngezin rejoiced in seeing the ancient forts and walls of the time of Gyalyum the Benevolent and before.


There is no substantial reaction to this new war of naked conquest - Golkonda sent a formal condemnation but this was ignored.


The Xia, unwilling to bear any further losses, ceded to him all of the lands south of the Qilian Mountains that they had ruled. This action also surrounded the most remote plateau of Aqênganggyai, those distant and most inhospitable lands.


At this, he had ruled all the lands of the Tibetan plateau -- the first ruler of Tibet to do this since Lasya, some two hundred and eighty years previously.


Buoyed by this success, Restorationist movements swept across all the southern continent, from the Ganges river to the eastern forests.


So the king made the first efforts to rule his new territories, by send ministers to accomplish local tasks and surveyors to see the state of his new acquisitions to treat them as his own possession.


It was at this time, in 1590, that loyalists and supporters to the Sacred Hierarchy had raised yet another group of armies, and marched out one last time against the Kingdom of Tibet.


They were outmaneuvered, however, and beaten one after the other, first in Qamdo


and then the army went to Garze.


The loyalists to the Hierarchy had prayed for a miracle that never came.


To his loyalist, he was a great leader of centuries past, he was a return to distant glory. He had stepped out of his black felt tent, he spoke of glory from horseback, and so he yearned to step onto the pages of history. And still, some of the Restorationists had their doubts, that he was willing to commit himself fully.


Dali had concluded their war of conquest. What was left of the Sacred Hierarchy clung to lands outside of Lijiang, and little else.


But while the wars were still successes, the nobles and merchants rankled at their neglect, and the time spent by the King away from his capital fostered feelings of revolt, and hatred of corruption.

The historian puts her pen down. She looks over the body of her work, which was at first of a compilation of events now resembles to her an accumulation of disasters which has spilled off of the table and gathered itself up in a pile next to her; where all the stories that she has lost and cannot tell are like the crumbling walls of this fort. But she cannot stay to awaken all the dead; what was broken cannot always be restored; and the hot winds of fate blow so fiercely from outside that she cannot hope to hold fast. She thinks of the battle which she had so gleefully, so viciously participated in, and thinks, that was all of history.

She turns to the next part of her history, and realizes that she has gotten some of the dates wrong and so scratches them out.




Let's try this again. In the year 1590, a woman claming to be the reincarnation of Gyalyum the Benevolent, the founder of the Second Tibetan Empire over six hundred fifty years ago, gained prominence. Where there were many false prophets and individuals claiming to be reincarnations of great historical figures in Tibets past, the suddenness and violence that accompanied her arrival make her story unique among the events of this period.



Vote.

A) Recognize the Second Gyalyum.

B) Send Her Away.

Kangxi fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Oct 14, 2020

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

The time has come.

A) Recognize the Second Gyalyum

Lord Cyrahzax
Oct 11, 2012

This usurper profanes the name of Gyalyum. How many more will come if play pretend with this fraud? May I declare myself Songsten Gampo on a whim?

B

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


new throne who dis

B

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




Eh, why not?

A

Viola the Mad
Feb 13, 2010
...What are her stats?

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

Listen, certain theological revelations notwithstanding, you let one person claim to be a reincarnation of our greatest ruler and next thing you know the whole drat empire will be full of these reincarnations!

B.

SirPhoebos
Dec 10, 2007

WELL THAT JUST HAPPENED!

A

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
I will vote A if she will bring me the heads of these "Reformist" heretics.

e: Actually, I will vote A regardless. So long as she doesn't take up with the Revenant Tse, death to the current leadership of Tibet and their abandonment of the Sacred Heirarchy!

habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Aug 16, 2020

megane
Jun 20, 2008



Look at her knuckles, they're not nearly tough enough to be Gyalyum's. Back off, lady.

Ralepozozaxe
Sep 6, 2010

A Veritable Smorgasbord!
B

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


A, yeah gently caress it

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
A, because I want to see the world burn with the Thirty Years War. :allears:

Lynneth
Sep 13, 2011
Bloody hell, another impostor.

B)

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012
Lest she has proof of her righteousness and strength, she's merely another in a long line of pretenders and charlatans seeking to take advantage of the unrest.

B

Tulip
Jun 3, 2008

yeah thats pretty good


A

the JJ
Mar 31, 2011
B

Ferrovanadium
Mar 22, 2013

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TinTower posted:

A, because I want to see the world burn with the Thirty Years War. :allears:

A.

HereticMIND
Nov 4, 2012

B

Unless she can provide convincing enough proof that she is who she says she is, she can show herself the door.

RagnarokZ
May 14, 2004

Emperor of the Internet
A

She returns! SHE RETURNS!

MatchaZed
Feb 14, 2010

We Can Do It!


A

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
B. Prove it.

Rody One Half
Feb 18, 2011

B I see no reason to recognize random reincarnation claimants. If we remember our history, the fake Tse was a Buddhist plot after all.

Pacho
Jun 9, 2010
A

:sickos:

wiegieman
Apr 22, 2010

Royalty is a continuous cutting motion


B

Gyalyum! How many divisions has she got?

Ikasuhito
Sep 29, 2013

Haram as Fuck.

Beat it you fraud!

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

:emptyquote:

Iceblocks
Jan 5, 2013
Taco Defender
B

Viola the Mad
Feb 13, 2010
B

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.
A

She has returned to us!

Alikchi
Aug 18, 2010

Thumbs up I agree

A

If not now, when? We may not get another chance.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
A

Always just voting for the most out-there option going forward tbh

Gravity Cant Apple
Jun 25, 2011

guys its just like if you had an apple with a straw n you poked the apple though wit it n a pebbl hadnt dropped through itd stop straw insid the apple because gravity cant apple
A

We made a mistake by refusing to acknowledge the reincarnation of Tse, we must not err a second time.

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Livewire42
Oct 2, 2013
There is no wAy this could end poorly

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