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C: Noble Elite - We don't have the most secure footing, here. Keeping the warrior nobility on board will help protect the nascent republic. C: Republicanism - That said, what is the point of all this if we don't make the republican ideal the center of political culture? C: Sortition - This should curb the ambitions of would-be tyrants in the aristocracy. A: Provincial Governments - Seems like the most efficient way to deal with constituent elements of the overall commonwealth.
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A - Oligarchy C - Republicanism A - Frequent Elections B - Administrative Divisions
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Oct 14, 2020 15:06
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I am compelled to support the ACAB proposal.
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Fools, you have no perception. The stakes we are gambling are frighteningly high! We must crush them completely, like Tse before her, this Gyalyum must die! Question 1: Power Structure A: Oligarchy - power rests naturally in the hands of a few. We can only hope that our right thinking leaders listen to the wisdom of Lasya and the High Church. Question 2: Republican Virtues A: Authoritarianism - the Republic itself must be strong. For if they hesitate, we are all lost. Question 3: Frequency of Elections B: Consolidation of Power - we cannot have naive and inexperienced leadership. We cannot trust those militants and moguls who are out only for themselves and not Tibet. Question 4: Regionalism B: Administrative Divisions - maintain an appointed bureaucracy. Nor can we trust the traitors who seek to throw off liberty and return to chains of "divine right." 
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Question 1: Power Structure C. Noble Elite: Look, just because Gyalyum III herself turned out to be false doesn't mean we need to throw out the whole system. I quite like my princely estate and getting to help make decisions solely by virtue of my very big house. Question 2: Republican Virtues B. Political Dynasties: Those of us with the very big houses have a duty to care for the state. We cannot expect the pathetic masses to have any commitment to the state or its ideals. Question 3: Frequency of Elections C. Sortition: I'm of the belief that all nobles are created equal, endowed with certain unalienable rights, among them the right to rule the masses with an iron fist. Let's come together and respect that we are all equally capable of managing the affairs of state. Question 4: Regionalism B. Administrative Divisions: Frankly, I find this whole question absurd. The empire should be governed wholly by the center, but if I must pick, I might as well pick the least terrible.
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Kassad posted:I am compelled to support the ACAB proposal. As we know, All Carantanians Are Bogomilists.
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All Cathmandians Are Buddhists! (e: I just wanted to make an ACAB slogan, my actual vote is the one above.) habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Oct 14, 2020 |
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Oct 14, 2020 19:04
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Oct 14, 2020 19:46
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yeah i'm voting ACAB without actually reading the options 
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Oct 15, 2020 07:58
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All Courtiers Are Bön (Edit: I ain't changing my votes, just wanted to get on the ACAB fun)
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 The vote is closed. Question 1: Power Structure A) Oligarchy: 16 (xthetenth, Pacho, Technowolf, Xelkelvos, Caustic Soda, Rody One Half, Lynneth, Empress Theonora, Kassad, habeasdorkus, kibaces, biosterous, Negostrike, zealouscub, Necroskowitz, Ikasuhito) B) Plutocracy: 2 (Crazycryodude, Viola the Mad) C) Noble Elite: 12 (megane, Tulip, Lord Cyrahzax, Soup du Jour, Coward, idhrendur, ThatBasqueGuy, Jeoh, GunnerJ, QuoProQuid, Chatrapati, EmotionlessThug) Question 2: Republican Virtues A) Authoritarianism: 3 (Habeasdorkus , Chatrapati, EmotionlessThug) B) Political Dynasties: 8 (Pacho, Lord Cyrahzax, Xelkelvos, Coward, idhrendur, QuoProQuid, Viola the Mad, Ikasuhito) C) Republicanism: 19 (megane, xthetenth, Tulip, Technowolf, Soup du Jour, Caustic Soda, Rody One Half, ThatBasqueGuy, Jeoh, Lynneth, GunnerJ, Empress Theonora, Kassad, Crazycryodude, kibaces, biosterous, Negostrike, zealouscub, Necroskowitz) Question 3: Frequency of Elections A) Frequent Elections: 11 (Pacho, Technowolf, Caustic Soda, Rody One Half, Empress Theonora, Kassad, Crazycryodude, kibaces, biosterous, Negostrike, Necroskowitz) B) Consolidation of Power: 5 (Soup duJour, habeasdorkus, Viola the Mad, EmotionlessThug, Ikasuhito) C) Sortition: 14 (megane, xthetenth, Tulip, Lord Cyrahzax, Xelkelvos, Coward, idhrendur, ThatBasqueGuy, Jeoh, Lynneth, GunnerJ, QuoProQuid, zealouscub, Chatrapati) Question 4: Regionalism A) Provincial Governments: 8 (megane, Xelkelvos, Caustic Soda, Rody One Half, ThatBasqueGuy, GunnerJ, Viola the Mad, EmotionlessThug) B) Administrative Divisions: 15 (Lord Cyrahzax, Soup du Jour, Coward, idhrendur, Jeoh, Lynneth, Empress Theonora, Kassad, habeasdorkus, QuoProQuid, Crazycryodude, kibaces, biosterous, zealouscub, Necroskowitz) C) Union of States: 7 (xthetenth, Pacho, Tulip, Technowolf, Negostrike, Chatrapati, Ikasuhito) And like a child, the young republic makes its first steps.
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All cops cre bastards.
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All cops: continually bastards!
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The Foundation of a Republic - Part II The reforms as agreed upon were implemented in the first months of 1616. Rulers would be chosen by lot, and expected to serve until death. The principles of sortition were met with a cautious acceptance from the outer nobility; this was considered to be a fair compromise given Bön's embrace of ritual, prognostication, and sortilege. Tsering Lhagyari, so appointed for life, still had further matters to address. Such as, would Tibet need a new banner or standard? To replace that of the old Purgyals. Would it need a new title? New forms of address? What color would it be on the new expensive maps that are commissioned? Somebody else could do that. You read that right. This is an open call for name suggestions and flags. 128x128 pixels, format doesn't matter as I can convert it. You don't have to include a suggestion here if you don't want to, but you can vote for whichever ones you want. I'll pick the one that has the most approval from you all. Finally, there was the rest of the Sacred Tibetan Empire.  The Sacred Tibetan Empire was hastily constructed by the Empress Yongdagmo in the mid-1440s after the campaigns of Lasya the Holy nearly tore the empire apart. It was partly sacred, it was ruled primarily by Tibetans, and it held much of the territory of the old empire. Yet it was easily ridiculed. It was still thought of as a bodge, it did not prevent internal warfare between its components, and only rulers from the Tibetan Plateau or Rajputana were ever elected to lead it - mostly Purgyals, but a few other noble families won that throne. And still, it was a safeguard against foreign invasion. Only the Empress Yongdagmo herself could have had any hope of reforming or strengthening it; nobody else had done so in almost two hundred years.  And as a republic, Tibet itself had eliminated any chance of it being elected to its leadership again - making it the sole property of the rulers of Rajputana - beset by their own troubles and unsuccessful campaigns.  The choice here was simple: Stay in the empire, where nothing would change, or Leave? There is a chance that some of the other constituent states of the empire would leave, or ask to join Tibet, so as to avoid their own annexation. There is also a chance that the Empire would not take this too kindly. Tsering Lhagyari sits, mute, and thinks of the fates of empires.  There could be further centralization and expansion, of political centralization and lines of troops in line with gunpowder and cannon. Deep down, she envies the Anatolian Sultana for that.  Or there could be a near-permanent dissolution, as the rest of the empire might see weakness and call for revenge and plunder. Both were only too possible. The vote will close next Friday, October 23rd, at 9 PM EST. Flag and namechat can go for a few days beyond that - I won't be able to put in as much time on this for a while due to work.
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Jesus that Mali + Ethiopia...
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In these chaotic times, it is essential that we stake our claims in the firmest and clearest terms possible. Thus, to ensure that all understand us to be the true inheritors of Gyalyum and Tse's legacy, I propose we be reconstituted under the following terms: Title: The REAL Sacred Tibetan Empire Flag:  Weep, ye mighty, before the power of this flag that combines all symbols of our empire on one standard! Weep and despair! QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Oct 19, 2020 |
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Oct 19, 2020 00:26
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Get out of the empire. Its time has come.
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 What has the STE ever do for us? I say we Leave
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Pacho posted:
Tibexit means Tibexit!
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Oct 19, 2020 01:53
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Pacho posted:
I'm convinced! Vote Leave!
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QuoProQuid posted:Flag: This flag is beautiful. Also it's time to Tibexit the premises.
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Rapid spitballing of names is a go: The Tibetan Freehold, The Sublime State of Tibet, The Harmonious Republic of Heaven/Tibet, The Republic of Tazig I feel that it would only be appropriate for the Tibetan Republic to have a grandiose name which I tried to come up with. For the flag, I am not an artist, but since the Republic decision is basically a culmination of the Middle Factions repeated wins I'd say we should incorporate their emblem into the flag:  Should we stay or should we go? Leave.
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Tibexit
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Let us leave and stake our claim simultaneously by calling ourselves something like The Grand Republic of India And the Tibetan Plateau, or The Great South Asian Republic, or The Republic Without Borders.
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Oct 19, 2020 09:29
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Leave! What has the STE ever done for us? Take back control!
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Oct 19, 2020 11:57
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The so called Sacred so called Tibetan so called Empire was a failed experiment. At least insofar as Tibet somehow not remaining at the apex of it. If Tibet is to leave, then we should be called the Highest Holy Republic of Tibet
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TIBEXIT
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Oct 19, 2020 12:44
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LEAVE! Power to the Upper Echelons of Society!
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Leave. No true republic would bow and scrape before an emperor.
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Leave.
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Leave
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We need to leave and get rid of the imperial oppressors in an October revolution.
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