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socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





I said come in! posted:

More of a lore question; how much authority does Aunt Lydia have over the handmaids? If she wants to send one randomly to the wall can she make it so, or does she have to justify (granted justification that the commanders will accept is a super low bar) why one should be executed?

Do you really think they would let a woman decide if one of their rape/breeding targets gets killed?

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socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





Fluffy Bunnies posted:

you are literally the audience they're writing for and continuing to get your viewership by reinforcing your unrealized fears. Because the thing Could happen, maybe, in some incredibly tiny fraction of a chance, and here's the video of what it would be like.

So of course you like it, man. And that's cool. I'm glad you have a show that you love.

But I want season 1 where rules were laid out and followed and actions had consequences. Not these stupid rear end internal monologues with June that should end with an 80's metal guitar riff. Her character isn't a vicious rebel. Her character is a survivalist. And the writers don't seem to know the difference as they once did. And that makes me sad.


it's also supposed to be a very ~smooth~ jive at how the current administration! silences! women! you see! because of the bullshit in my state and other states around me that will, hopefully, be utterly destroyed long before it's actually written into law (reproductive rights in the south east is stupid right now). And that's what I mean by a thin veneer. There's no reason, no rhyme. suddenly june's just in a dog muzzle for no reason. The "we treat handmaids with dignity! they're one of our most important things!" stuff that Gilead is supposed to be putting out there is totally ruined just so we get this "women!!!!" moment to suck up to me, the far left. But I'm here to watch a show. A once-great show that did have good messages that weren't so painfully blunt and punching you in the face that it ruined the rest of it and made characters break rules recklessly for no gain with no consequence and ruined the writing of the story itself.

I like it when shows represent my political arguments. I don't like it when that's all they become and they forget everything else that they once were. Boo.

The staples are a bit much but there is very real religious history behind not allowing women to speak.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





Into The Mild posted:

Please someone tell me that something happens this season.

I cannot take another season of torture porn with nothing good happening.

It's still torture porn, but things happen and its much faster pace.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





I felt like they needed to show why/how Gilead hasn't taken Chicago beyond a dozen lovely dudes in a warehouse when they constantly talk up their military.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





mcmagic posted:

Gilead seems about as worried about war crimes as Israel is.

Yeah but they are doing it to white people so someone might care.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





SirPablo posted:

Still seemed like a huge plot blunder for Gilead to catch June and the rest of the handmaids on the farm, then just but them all right back to work. Pack them into a van with ONE guard.

Hey now, they also had a crippled old woman helping to guard them.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





Raping your black slaves is like racism 101 anyway, it is not surprising they use them as handmaids.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





flashy_mcflash posted:

I think it's implied in the book that minorities (esp Black people and Jews) were under the same travel restrictions as women and would not have been able to escape to Canada or elsewhere. As such it wouldn't be likely that Book Luke was Black.

Again though, I think the show is better for the addition of Luke and Moira and other characters that are Black/PoC though.

He literally snuck there? Like he didn't just buy a ticket to canada on the local bus route or something.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





Fellatio del Toro posted:

they coulda just said "yeah june walked across the border in minnesota" or something and not hosed over the aid group lol

Yeah this feels like forced drama, hell it's weird this is the tipping point in no further aid or anything when capturing a top Commander and his Wife wasn't.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





Owlspiracy posted:

how the gently caress are random commanders visiting canada now

I mean the Waterfords did it in earlier seasons. They Canada/Gilead thing isn't like a full out shooting war.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





BattyKiara posted:

I'm just surprised they give him another bride when he couldn't control the last child bride.

You know at first I thought it was dumb how they haven't taken over Chicago with seemingly how little defenses it had, then I remembered Nick was in charge of that so it all made sense.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





Looten Plunder posted:

Wait, they don't even know what that line is supposed to mean? What the gently caress? That whole thing makes zero sense. What is Luke even distraught about? The last he saw of June was her going for an afternoon stroll. Are we to expect he sees his wife 18 hours later covered in scratches and blood and immediately knows everything she's done?

This loving show.

She mentioned in the car earlier about how she was going to see him hang from the wall the same day Fred is removed from Canadian custody she disappears for hours and comes back covered in blood, it's not a far stretch.

SirPablo posted:

I like how it never dawned on the Canadians that they could maybe trade Waterford.

The implication from the earlier commander visit is that they didn't want him back really because they didn't want to set a standard of kidnapping commanders. Not until he started leaking secrets then suddenly he is of interest to have back and punish.

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socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003





SirPablo posted:

Remember when they captured the runaway handmaids and they only sent Aunt Lydia and one driver to escort them back?

It's insane how dangerous a person like June is to them at that point and they did that. I mean hell she's escaped like a dozen times already and a crippled old lady was their escort.

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