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Svanja
Sep 19, 2009
Well, poo poo.

Poor Nicole. At least we can enjoy knowing she will see how much was she was loved by viewers when she gets out.

I hope to hell the audience loses their minds when she walks out so the others can realize it before they even leave the building.

Voting Nicole for AFP.

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Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

This show is so bad, I hope Nicole wins FP and walks away and never comes back because it's too good for her

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
Can you really not vote for AFP without signing up for All Access?

Max
Nov 30, 2002

Yeah I’m only going to check finale night to see who got AFP. I have zero interest in seeing who wins this season.

But thank you STAC. I like your analysis of the game and appreciate the work you put in. Not your fault the social gameplay this season was dogshit.

nunsexmonkrock
Apr 13, 2008

Pillowpants posted:

Can you really not vote for AFP without signing up for All Access?

As far as I know you need it. Which means it's really not Amaricas favorite person - it CBS all access subscribers favorite person. - they should just call it that.

Yer Burnt
Feb 26, 2007

Immense appreciation to STAC for the tweets, the writeups and the loss of sanity.

Seems fitting for Jackson & Holly to join Boogie & Erika as the only showmances to make final 2.

vincentpricesboner
Sep 3, 2006

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Michie has like 90% chance of winning right now.
He has been the best at all the comps, and is bound to win 1 of the first 2. If its Michie/Holly, the jury will vote for the most complete player, even if he is an rear end in a top hat. The only way I see Nicole winning is if she wins the final comp and takes Holly.

I'm not even mad about it at this point. He's the best player remaining.

mancalamania
Oct 23, 2008

nunsexmonkrock posted:

As far as I know you need it. Which means it's really not Amaricas favorite person - it CBS all access subscribers favorite person. - they should just call it that.

I think you just need the account rather than the active subscription. My subscription lapsed but I was still able to vote by logging into my account.

Granted, I have no idea how to make an account without also subscribing first....

nunsexmonkrock
Apr 13, 2008
Ah okay this seasons vote basically went almost how I wanted it to go so I never really tried to hard haha!

Snowmankilla
Dec 6, 2000

True, true

Thanks STAC Goat!

Secks
Oct 10, 2002

The city is alive tonight
As always, thanks STAC. Your updates and insight are fun to read and keep me in the loop even when I turn the feeds off in frustration.

zapplez posted:

Michie has like 90% chance of winning right now.
He has been the best at all the comps, and is bound to win 1 of the first 2. If its Michie/Holly, the jury will vote for the most complete player, even if he is an rear end in a top hat. The only way I see Nicole winning is if she wins the final comp and takes Holly.

I'm not even mad about it at this point. He's the best player remaining.

Remember, this is the spoiler/live feeds thread. Parts 1 and 2 have already been played. If you don't want to know who won them before they air, don't read around here!

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

mancalamania posted:

I think you just need the account rather than the active subscription. My subscription lapsed but I was still able to vote by logging into my account.

Granted, I have no idea how to make an account without also subscribing first....

Yeah, I voted today even though my sub ran out. But I guess I'm still logged into my account.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Sep 22, 2019

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

I’m kind of at peace with things. Jackson’s probably gonna win but there’s a plausible chance Holly could get the votes and we get the douchebag favorite losing for a 4th year in a row and a whole lot of their fans complaining that the game is broken because jury management matters. Nicole had a couple of chances to win comps to try and secure the game for her and it didn’t happen, so it is what it is. It doesn’t feel like she’s “deserving” and being “screwed” or anything. She’ll probably be AFP and she’ll leave to a lot of love. And here last days in the BB House will be marked by her seeing through Jackson and wanting to make the move against him and Cliff being fooled and blowing it.

But its BB21 so Tommy will probably win AFP.

One (probably) last big tweet post…

Awwww.
https://twitter.com/powerofcheeto1/status/1175675660838289408

There’s lots of online drama that Holly might have said that BB gave her an answer before the comp or something. I can’t find any direct clip or quote so I dunno. Its BB. There’s always something sketchy going on but its also impossible to know what and we’re always going to lean towards our own biases. This season is definitely gonna be remembered as one of the sketchier ones if just because of Christie/Tommy, Jackson/Holly, and Jackson and Jack getting heads up from the DR about their bad behavior. But maybe all rear end in a top hat HGs get that and they were just stupid enough to talk about it? Who knows?

If there was any doubt. Which I guess there is with them.
https://twitter.com/BB21Tea/status/1175682227570532352

Jackson’s always been JUST off about his general image.
https://twitter.com/Tooms_BB/status/1175662292932841473

I think its entirely possible these are the only BB21 HGs who actually like each other when this is over besides maybe Nicole/Cliff/Ovi.
https://twitter.com/BellaWang21/status/1175819203141439488

Apparently Nicole just hasn’t been on the feeds much. I feel for anyone more obsessed with me who have just been watching Jackson/Holly this weekend.
https://twitter.com/BB21Tea/status/1175665626087473152

Same.
https://twitter.com/bigbroaccess/status/1175781079346819074

Whoops.
https://twitter.com/ButFirstRoxy/status/1175808380990033922

As I said, Nicole stopping giving a gently caress a little bit ago.
https://twitter.com/BB_Pissed/status/1175870749225181184

Pillowpants
Aug 5, 2006
They should just make the whole jury stay in the house for the whole season, forcing jury management.

Yer Burnt
Feb 26, 2007

STAC Goat posted:

There’s lots of online drama that Holly might have said that BB gave her an answer before the comp or something. I can’t find any direct clip or quote so I dunno. Its BB. There’s always something sketchy going on but its also impossible to know what and we’re always going to lean towards our own biases. This season is definitely gonna be remembered as one of the sketchier ones if just because of Christie/Tommy, Jackson/Holly, and Jackson and Jack getting heads up from the DR about their bad behavior. But maybe all rear end in a top hat HGs get that and they were just stupid enough to talk about it? Who knows?
The veto comp rigging for Jackson remains suspicious, yes?

I hope Tommy lays the guilt on thick with Jackson during final questioning. I wanna see tears, real or fake.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Pillowpants posted:

They should just make the whole jury stay in the house for the whole season, forcing jury management.

Well we see how well "leave them in the house after eviction so they're forced to be decent to them" worked for Ovi, David, and Kemi.

Yer Burnt posted:

The veto comp rigging for Jackson remains suspicious, yes?

I guess, I dunno. That's what I mean. We don't really know if that was rigged or just fortuitous timing. I'm biased against Jackson and think production has given him a lot of special favors so I kind of naturally lean towards them doing it again. But other people love Jackson and thing BB was rigging against him so they'll go the other way. Ultimately our biases are pushing us. BB probably does do sketchy poo poo. We know they do. But the hidden nature of it means we'll most certainly miss a lot of things that do happen and jump at other things that are just happenstance. So for me I just try and stay agnostic except with like really clear stuff like Tommy/Christie or Jackson getting regular DR updates on his image.

The funny thing is some people on Twitter are saying Holly said she got help and it was rigged for her. But Holly is saying it was rigged against her because there was a question about clowns that was "tailored to Nicole" so others are saying it was rigged for Nicole. So that's what I'm saying. Conspiracies sometimes happen but we see conspiracy theories in the direction we were already leaning.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

I wonder if they didnt get a practice round before they did the real comp to make sure the HG knew what to do and thats where they told Jackson he was doing it wrong.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

If we're talking about the F4 POV Jackson said it was him targeting the people who DID do something instead of DID NOT or vice versa. Which like if you can't read and understand the clue then you shouldn't be told the other answer.

Victorkm
Nov 25, 2001

STAC Goat posted:

If we're talking about the F4 POV Jackson said it was him targeting the people who DID do something instead of DID NOT or vice versa. Which like if you can't read and understand the clue then you shouldn't be told the other answer.

I am but I'm saying maybe they got a practice round before starting the main 3 questions where Jackson couldn't figure out what he was doing wrong and they gave him a course correction so he understood the correct process.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Ok, one more Twitter roundup…

Nicole’s made some passing efforts to campaign but mostly she seems to be at peace. Well… mostly at peace.
https://twitter.com/powerofcheeto1/status/1176057615685697536

In his efforts to play some Jury Management Jackson admitted that he made up that stuff about Tommy. Jackson of course has excuses. This confession apparently sent Jackson spiraling. Nicole was pretty open about the fact that she suspected Jackson was full of poo poo from the jump and even though she was saying “its just a game” and wasn’t judging him she also wasn’t feeding into Jackson’s moral excuses. Toss in that Holly was trying to make her own excuses about being a “bystander” while on the block and Nicole was a bit more receptive to that (“I think that is why I kept you cause this was not your lie.”) and Jackson ended up getting pissed off and pouting that Nicole was “ignoring” him and not catering to him as “the ninth juror”.
https://twitter.com/TaylorAllen133/...037576639074304

This of course just ended up letting Nicole and Holly bond some more about how self absorbed Jackson is and how he doesn’t seem to grasp that everyone else has the same desire to win, anxiety about their image, need for the money, etc. Holly points out the question that’s been gnawing at me, why does Jackson keep talking about how good his jury speech is and his jury votes to her? I’m glad to hear that’s bothering Holly. I was worried about her self esteem.

Nicole: Oh boy, you can tell someone is an only child.
https://twitter.com/BB21Tea/status/1176040156933103617
https://twitter.com/BB21Tea/status/1176062023701913600

Naturally this all resulted in the royal couple happily comforting each other as they always do.
https://twitter.com/powerofcheeto1/status/1176106119070126080
https://twitter.com/BB21LiveFeeds/status/1176215567885373441

Also I genuinely believe Jackson and Holly have convinced themselves Jackson/Kat never happened. Like I think they’re gonna get out and be like “no, that was an editing lie.”
https://twitter.com/BB21LiveFeeds/status/1176164201213173762

I’m not sure all of this is fair and none of the bullying, misogyny, “abuse”, or possible bigotry is included. But its the kind of thing waiting for Jackson when he gets out.
https://twitter.com/AmberStar83/status/1176068618842337280

Lets do this one more time. I’m amused by how Jokers can’t really decide if they hate Holly or Jackson more, but the movement is probably statistical noise with maybe a small jump for Jackson when he was gaming hard with that lie and a small jump for Holly when she seemed to be doing good jury management. Its funny to see Cliff’s steep fall when he kind of lost his mind and Tommy’s climb when Jackson screwed him. Also doing Nick is bad for your popularity, Kat. But ultimately if Nicole doesn’t win AFP I’m probably gonna start screaming “RIGGED!”


Lets end with some good news.
https://twitter.com/BB19KEVIN/statu...231744901033985

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Sep 23, 2019

Max
Nov 30, 2002

That is good news about Kevin.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Final day of feeds. What happened?
https://twitter.com/IGIF_/status/1176404031973068800

Ok, that didn’t happen.

In case you were holding out hope.
https://twitter.com/BB21LiveFeeds/status/1176674268941357057

Jackson runs his Jury Speech past Holly. His F2 competition. Which even confuses Holly. But of course we all know Jackson doesn’t actually see her as a peer or equal so… We get a preview of “Please don’t be a bitter jury.”
https://twitter.com/powerofcheeto1/status/1176699780988358656

Charming.
https://twitter.com/BB_Updates/status/1176670017779142657

Jackson biting the hand that feeds him and then Nicole and Holly clowning on him thinking Mr. Can’t Handle One Week of Have Nots could survive Survivor.
https://twitter.com/powerofcheeto1/status/1176313465532801025

Nicole, actually the most perceptive of all of us? Still gross, Kat.
https://twitter.com/powerofcheeto1/status/1176307949637177344

Something I hadn’t thought of.
https://twitter.com/BBSassy19/status/1176675903822270465

Aww…
https://twitter.com/powerofcheeto1/status/1176664884043534337
https://twitter.com/BB_Updates/status/1176658877217009665

Ok, I think that’s all I’ve got. Thanks to everyone for reading and the kind words. Sorry for the times I annoyed you. Season didn’t turn out as terrible as it seemed pre-Jack Eviction Day. Still wasn’t very “fun”, or I guess I should say “satisfying”. But stuff happened, so there’s that. And I learned how to use Twitter finally. Yay? I’m gonna go vote for Nicole for AFP one last time. See you tomorrow night for the finale. I guess I might actually watch it unlike last year? Maybe? I guess it depends on how hopeful I am that Holly can pull off the miracle and crush that scumbag's heart. We'll see.

Who'd have thought I'd be rooting for Holly?

edit: I'm even deleting my "BB21" text file where I make my notes/writeups. sniffle

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Sep 25, 2019

Svanja
Sep 19, 2009
Watching Nicole win AFP made it all worth it. <3

See you again next season!

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

It was a really good ending to a bad ride.

Sadly there don't appear to be live background interviews. I guess CBS showed mercy on them.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
RhaP backyard interviews with the HGs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKdK8x9jzuE

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Here's Ika's.
https://twitter.com/ETCanada/status...229511051661312

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