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We’re getting restless awaiting Lamonica #1
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Tom Brady is the best and I'm glad we will have even more evidence to prove it.
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Y'all are getting antsy lol. As a Flames fan, gently caress Gretzky though. loving Oilers bullshit... ANYWAY. 2. Peyton Manning (Indianapolis Colts 1998-2011, Denver Broncos 2012-2015) 1st Place Colts and 1st Place Broncos QB Career Record 199-88-0 (69.34%) 5th out of 102 Record in Games with Good Defense 141-9-0 (94.00%) 1st out of 102 Record in Games with Bad Defense 58-79-0 (42.34%) 5th out of 102 Percentage of Games with Good Defense 150/287 (52.26%) 48th out of 102 (+45) Wins above Average in a 16 Game Season (3.065)  Well, well, well. If it isn't the fivehead himself. Peyton Manning is probably a quarterback I don't need to go into any depth about, but I will anyway because gently caress it, my study, my rules. This sex offender was drafted first overall by the Colts after having a legendary college career at Tennessee and being one of the mostly highly sought after QB prospects in history. The Indianapolis Colts had been looking for their next franchise QB, and ever since Bert Jones career ended so abruptly, the Colts had been spurned at every turn. They were in position to draft John Elway, but he'd rather play baseball than play for the Colts, so they had no choice to trade him for minimal value. in 1990, they had the first overall pick again, and thought Jeff George would be the man to lead them into the future... yeah, he was not. So the Colts spun their wheels but received another opportunity at the first overall pick in 1998 after going 3-13 the season prior. With a new head coach and new general manager, the Colts were faced with a choice, Peyton Manning or Ryan Leaf. Luckily for the Colts, they made the correct pick as the two of them embarked on paths so opposite you could hardly believe that they had nearly the same starting point as picks 1 and 2 in the 1998 draft. Combined with the young talent of Marshall Faulk, Marvin Harrison and Tarik Glenn in the drafts prior, the Colts offense was looking like a force to be reckoned with. Unfortunately for the Colts, things weren't that simple, as their defense was utterly atrocious, giving up nearly 28 points a game. Peyton did well given the circumstances, throwing 26 TD's, but he also earned the rookie record for interceptions with 28. It was a rough start for the young QB, but he took his trial by fire in stride. The Colts would lose Marshall Faulk in the next offseason, but replace him with Edgerrin James in the draft, so the offense didn't take any significant steps back. and in 1999, Peyton would show the league just what he could do. He broke 4000 yards for the first of many times in his career, brought his interception count down to 15, while keeping his TD's high, and led 6 fourth quarter comebacks on the way to a 13-3 record, and the second seed in the AFC. However, Peyton's first playoff game would end poorly as he was manhandled and bullied by the Titans defense in a 19-16 loss. Peyton would start to develop a reputation as an excellent regular season quarterback, and a terrible postseason one after that. He would throw 33 TD's in 2000 and take the team to a 10-6 record, but lose 23-17 in overtime to the Miami Dolphins after failing to put up any significant offense in the second half. 2001 would see the Colts go 6-10 with the worst defense in the league and miss the playoffs for the last time in Peyton's tenure as QB. Jim Mora would be fired, but luckily for the Colts, a defensive minded head coach would fall right into their laps after Tampa Bay took Jon Gruden out of Oakland. Tony Dungy would prove to be the right guy for the job in Indianapolis, but it took a few seasons for his work to bear the fruit all Colts fans wanted to see. Just as well, the introduction of the Houston Texans meant the league's divisions needed to be realigned, and so the Colts moved from the AFC East, to the newly formed AFC South, with the new Houston team, the old Houston team, and the barely 8 year old Jaguars. This realignment ended up being rather vital to somebody... I'll get to more detail on that when his writeup comes along. In any case, the Colts were one of the big dogs in the newly minted division, since the Texans were an expansion team and the Jaguars were fading fast. The defense got a big boost from Tony Dungy, giving up 11 less points per game, and the Colts went 10-6, good enough for Manning's third postseason appearance. Once again, the Colts would be one and done, getting throttled by Chad Pennington and the Jets 41-0. Peyton made moves to shed the reputation of choker in 2003, leading the team to a 12-4 record on the back of a 4250 yard, 29 TD and 10 INT season, which was good enough to win co-MVP with Steve McNair that year. Manning would win the first playoff game of his career against the Broncos, winning 41-10, and throwing 5 TD passes in the win, which was one more than his number of incomplete passes that game. They would face the high flying Chiefs in KC in their next game, and in a game where no defense could get stops, the Colts were the winner in a 38-31 shootout. However, the magic couldn't be kept alive as Peyton would face Tom Brady and the Patriots in Gillette Stadium, and Manning would throw four interceptions in a 24-14 loss, three to hall of fame cornerback Ty Law. Peyton was heated in 2004, and as their GM bitched for new rules to give receivers free reign, Peyton took advantage, throwing for 4557 yards, and a league record 49 TD passes. He won his second MVP, and led the Colts to another 12-4 record. When they faced the Broncos in the wild-card round again, Peyton went nuts, throwing for 458 yards and 4 touchdowns in a 49-24 victory. But all the new rules and tricks couldn't help them against the Patriots and their defense, as the Colts offense had 6 punts, 3 turnovers, and a long field goal to show on offense as they lost 20-3. The reputation was no longer Peyton is a playoff choker, it was Peyton Manning can't beat the Patriots. 2005 would see the Colts dominate on offense and defense, as they went all the way to a 13-0 record, clinching the AFC with three weeks to go. Coach Dungy decided to rest their starters from that point on, and the Colts would finish with a 14-2 record, rather than chase perfection. so with essentially 4 weeks off, the Colts were sort of cold when the Steelers came to town, and in a hotly contested game between two tough defenses, the Steelers took a 21-3 lead by the end of the third. Peyton led a fierce comeback attempt to get it up to 21-18, but was stopped on what should been the last drive of the fourth quarter. But Jerome Bettis fumbled the ball immediately after the Steelers gained possession, and the Colts nearly returned it all the way back, if not for a game saving tackle by Ben Roethlisberger. Peyton was able to drive the ball to the Steelers 28, but Vanderjagt missed the field goal, and the damage was done. if NFL Films was still doing the missing rings series, 2005 Colts may have been a good contender for the topic. So they decided that they needed to do things the hard way in 2006, making it through the wild-card round with a 12-4 record, as Peyton had his third straight season with a 100+ passer rating. The defense would struggle throughout the season, but they would get Bob Sanders back just in time for the playoffs, and as it turned out, that made the difference. Well that and replacing Mike Vanderjagt with Adam Vinatieri. Peyton was nothing special in this super bowl run at least early on, as the Colts beat the Chiefs 23-8, then upset the Ravens on the road 15-6, winning primarily on the strength of their defense rather than Peyton's arm. But they would play the Patriots in the AFC Championship, and fortunately for them, they had the tiebreaker and home field for the game. It didn't seem to matter early on, when the Patriots took a 21-6 lead into halftime, but Peyton finally flipped the switch. If the Colts wanted to win this game, they needed him to perform above standard. So the Colts would score 32 points in the second half, including a last minute touchdown drive, and outlast the Patriots 38-34 in one of the most thrilling games of the past 20 years. Compared to the murderers row of the AFC that season, the Bears were child's play, even after spotting the Bears 7 points on the first play of the game by kicking to Devin Hester. The Colts won 29-17, and the man who was crowned from the moment he stepped onto the field finally won a super bowl ring. The Colts would continue to be a force in Manning's time, always winning 10 or more games in the regular season, but for some reason, they just couldn't get Manning another ring in Indy. 2007 would end after the Colts went 13-2, decided to rest their starters for week 17, lose, and then proceed to be outmatched in the divisional round by the gently caress Goblin and his Chargers and lose 28-24. They would break Rivers' knee in the loss to ensure the Patriots had no AFC competition though. Peyton would steal another MVP award in 2008, after reeling off 9 straight wins after a slow 3-4 start to make it to 12-4 and secure the 5th seed in the AFC. This time around, they would lose to the Chargers again, after losing the coin toss in overtime, and letting Rivers and Co run down their throats and score a TD to win 23-17. Peyton would repeat and steal another MVP award, this time from Drew Brees on the way to a 14-2 record, and the top seed in the AFC, with new head coach Jim Caldwell. Of course, the Colts had an opportunity to go undefeated after starting the season 14-0, but Caldwell decided to pull the starters in the second half, and let the Jets comeback and win. The Colts would shoot the Ravens out of the sky in a 20-3 divisional round victory, and avoiding the Patriots thanks to a timely Jets upset, they were able to pound the Jets when they were playing seriously, and winning 30-17 after scoring 24 unanswered points. In the super bowl against the Saints, they were outfoxed by Sean Payton, lost the possession battle, and when given an opportunity to tie the game, Peyton threw a pick six to Tracy Porter instead. 2010 would be Manning's ninth consecutive playoff appearance, marking the first time a starting quarterback has done that, but the playoff run would be shut down almost single-handedly by Revis Island, as the Jets survived 17-16. Manning would miss the entire 2011 season due to a neck injury, and the squad of Curtis Painter, Dan Orlovsky and Kerry Collins ensured that the Colts would be Sucking for Luck. With the opportunity to rebrand the franchise, and stay competitive for the next decade to come, the Colts cut ties with Manning and let him go into free agency. Manning had many suitors but eventually chose to join the Broncos, just like John Elway had done to the Colts nearly 30 years prior. With Manning and their suite of young receivers, the offense exploded, as Manning threw for 37 TD's, 4660 yards, and won 11 straight games at the end of the season to go 13-3 and win home field advantage in the AFC. However, Ray Lewis' retirement tour happened, Jacoby Jones happened, and the Broncos suffered a disappointing 38-35 loss to the Ravens. The Broncos came back with a vengenace in 2013, as Manning shattered every single season passing record he could on the way to a 5477 yard, 55 TD and only 10 INT season. The offense did peter out for the playoffs, but they still had enough in the tank to beat Manning's most hated rivals. First the Chargers in the divisional round 24-17, after taking a 17-0 lead by the end of the third quarter. Then they stopped the Patriots at mile high, winning 26-16, after taking a 20-3 lead by the end of the third quarter. Of course when the super bowl came around, the Broncos decided to lose the game on the very first snap, sending it a mile over peyton's head, and into the endzone. The Seahawks won 43-8, and we don't talk about that game. The Broncos offense would continue to impress in 2014, but you could see that Peyton's arm strength and velocity were rapidly waning into the later months of the season. The Broncos still had gathered enough talent to go 12-4, and earn a first round bye for the third year in a row. However the dysfunction was setting in, as John Fox was already looking for a new job because the super bowl or bust pressure was too much for the man, and he didn't even bother to gameplan for the Colts in the playoffs because he figured he would just be fired anyway. The Colts won easily 24-14, and Fox was gone, off to Chicago to hinder the development of that team for a few seasons. Manning's last hurrah would be in 2015, but the goose was cooked by then. He threw only 9 TD's to 17 INT's in 9 starts, and was even benched for Brock Osweiler. However, he was called back for the last game of the regular season, and in a year where the Broncos defense was doing the heavy lifting, Manning swallowed his pride and made the adjustment to focus on the running game, letting CJ Anderson and Ronnie Hillman do the hard work and beat the Chargers, to go 12-4 and secure home field advantage over the New England Patriots. That playoff run was a heart attack waiting to happen for a Broncos fan, but the defense held steady and made key stops exactly when they needed to, while Peyton did just enough not to lose those games. With a 23-16 game against the Steelers settled by a key defensive stop, and the AFC Championship won 20-18 thanks to a stop on the Patriots two point convert at the end of the game, the Broncos were super bowl bound against the juggernaut Carolina Panthers. But in the battle of offense versus defense, the defense comes out on top. The Panthers kept trying to make plays, but were stopped at every turn as the defense got key points off of turnovers and short fields, and eventually, painstakingly won the game 24-10. Peyton Manning retired a champion, and the league was better for it. What's most noticeable about Peyton's splits is his 94% winning percentage in games with good defense. This is the best mark out of every QB in the study and it's kind of absurd. If you weren't scoring at least 23 points against Peyton's team, you didn't have a chance. His splits with bad defense are incredible as well, but the two players ahead of him happened to have absurd and unfair rates which tilted the scores in their favour. Regardless, Peyton gave you three more wins than the average quarterback per season, and it showed in his team's performances. The only times they missed the playoffs was when they had literally the worst defense in the league that season, otherwise they were usually competing for the top seed in the AFC year in and year out. Manning had an incredible career, and his legacy shouldn't be sold short because he played in the golden age of passing. He was the vanguard of the era, and as one of the most cerebral players to ever play the game, he was truly a force to be reckoned with in this league. Logicblade fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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It was fantastic watching Peyton play. No matter what was happening with the defense, Peyton was going to put the Colts in a spot to win. My absolute favorite thing was when he threw a long ball, and as soon as you released it, you knew it was complete. Every time. When Peyton was putting his arm into a ball, you didnt even need the rest of the play, he found a guy, that guy was open, and it was going to be yards.  
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Indy Peyton owned. gently caress Denver Peyton
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I know a ton of memes have originated on SA but have any informational threads or topics made their way to the mainstream? I'd love to see this thread and analysis get some love elsewhere. I didn't pay a ton of attention to football until I went to college in 2001 so some of this stuff is before my time, but man it's kind of awesome to relive some of these careers. Having everything spelled out in context also gives me a greater appreciation for the guys I had never heard of or maybe just knew their name through cultural osmosis. I am a little unhappy (though not surprised in the least) that Brady is #1 in the modern era. Will be very interested to see his stats with bad defense.
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Athanatos posted:My absolute favorite thing was when he threw a long ball, and as soon as you released it, you knew it was complete. Every time. When Peyton was putting his arm into a ball, you didnt even need the rest of the play, he found a guy, that guy was open, and it was going to be yards. Yeah when you saw him wind up and launch a pass it was like “here we go”
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Strictly for watching him play, I’ll take Manning over Brady every time. Brady is, sadly, probably the best to ever play (or at least has a record you can’t rebut), but prime Manning was just sublime. Just a big forehead housing a big football brain with the spice running freely through his veins, navigating his way through the stars in ways other people couldn’t.
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Kazak_Hstan posted:Strictly for watching him play, I’ll take Manning over Brady every time. Brady is, sadly, probably the best to ever play (or at least has a record you can’t rebut), but prime Manning was just sublime. Just a big forehead housing a big football brain with the spice running freely through his veins, navigating his way through the stars in ways other people couldn’t. *Unless it's in the playoffs
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Logicblade posted:Y'all are getting antsy lol. As a Flames fan, gently caress Gretzky though. loving Oilers bullshit... ANYWAY. Peyton is pretty much the most fun quarterback to watch of the last 20 years, and Brady v. Peyton was almost guaranteed GOTY, but I have no idea what it was with that 43-8 Super Bowl. That should have been a good game and not Seahawks porn. Also, watching late Broncos era Peyton and his graham cracker arm get carried across the finish line was pretty painful.
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Alright, I know I said Daryle Lamonica got an adjustment, so I've got one last fake out for you all. 9. Daryle Lamonica* (Buffalo Bills 1963-1966, Oakland Raiders 1967-1974) (Loses the first three years of his career due to era cutoff) 1st Place Raiders QB Career Record 65-22-6 (73.12%) 3rd out of 102 Record in Games with Good Defense 42-5-2 (87.76%) 8th out of 102 Record in Games with Bad Defense 23-17-4 (56.82%) 1st out of 102 Percentage of Games with Good Defense 49/93 (52.69%) 47th out of 102 (+45) Wins above Average in a 16 Game Season (3.375) ADJUSTED FOR DARYLE LAMONICA BS (2.148)  Without any adjustment, Daryle fricking Lamonica snags the number two spot. I didn't see this coming, and hell, he was one of the last players I did the numbers for in this entire study. Lamonica is primarily known for one thing, chucking the ball deep, just like Al Davis intended. Lamonica was in a way, everything Al Davis wanted in a quarterback, a ruthless field general who could throw it to any point on the field at any given time, and a guy who just won, baby. Lamonica was drafted in the 24th round of the NFL draft by the Buffalo Bills, and god what a beautiful sentence that is. Lamonica not only happened to play QB, but he was also a punter in his rookie season. As he was locked behind Jack Kemp on the depth chart, he never really got a chance in Buffalo, but won every game he started in those four seasons, even with a completion percentage of 42.5% in his time there. Yeah, Lamonica's game was easy to understand... you throw it deep and you make things happen, or it hits the turf and you move on. The Raiders were learning to be competitive, but it wasn't until Lamonica came to Oakland did DA RAIDAHS truly come into existence. The thing is, Al Davis didn't even want Lamonica, the GM at the time traded starting QB Tom Flores and 4 time AFL All-Star receiver Art Powell for Lamonica and Glenn Bass, a WR that was immediately flipped to the Oilers. Still Lamonica took the starting job in stride and led the Raiders to a 13-1 record, throwing 30 TDs to 20 INT's, and leading the best offense in the AFL. The Raiders would put up 40 on the Oilers in the AFL championship game, but against Bart Starr and the Packers in the second super bowl, the Packers had Lamonica locked down, and easily outpaced the Raiders 33-14. Lamonica would again lead the best offense in the AFL, and take the Raiders to a 12-2 record, with a more modest 25 TD passes and 15 INT's, with a sub 50% completion percentage. The Raiders would face the Chiefs in the divisional round as the AFL expanded their playoffs to four teams, and Lamonica would throw for four touchdowns, 347 yards on 39 attempts, and still fail to complete 50% of his passes. However they would face the Jets in the conference championship, and these teams had serious bad blood between them. Al Davis had a grudge against them, the Jets were the only AFL team to beat the Raiders in the season prior, and earlier this season the game between them was blacked out to air the movie Heidi, so the whole world missed the Raiders scoring two touchdowns in the final minutes to beat them. So they slugged it out, and matched each other point for point, completion for completion, and incompletion for incompletion. the QB's combined for 667 yards, 4 TD's, and completed 39 of 97 passes in the affair. The Jets simply had the ball last, and Namath led the game winning touchdown drive on the Raiders, 27-23. 1969 was the last year of the AFL, and once again Lamonica would lead the highest scoring offense in the league. Lamonica would throw for 3300 yards, 33 TDs and 25 INT's while completing a career high 51.9% of his passes. With a 12-1-1 record, the Raiders cruised through the AFL, and against the Oilers in the divisional round, they massacred them 56-7, with Lamonica throwing 6 touchdowns and 276 yards on just 17 passing attempts. However, the mad bomber could not work effectively in the conference championship game against the Chiefs, as he was held to 167 yards on 39 attempts, along with three interceptions in a 17-7 loss. Lamonica would have a little difficultly adjusting to the league after the merger, as the Raiders went 8-4-2 in their next two seasons. But 8-4-2 was enough to make the postseason in 1970. Bob Griese would actually outthrow Lamonica in the divisional round, but the Dolphins would lose 21-14. It was however the Raiders fate to lose to the eventual super bowl champion, and this time the Colts would beat them in the conference championship. Lamonica would be taken out of the game early by injuries, and George Blanda would be the one to take the fall. 1971 would see the Raiders miss the playoffs entirely for the first time since Lamonica became the starter. He would only start one season after that, as a combination of injuries began to take their toll on the man as he entered his 30's. But he did save his best for last, adapting a bit to the more conservative NFL game, completing 53% of his passes and leaning on the run game a little more, while trying some of those shorter routes from time to time. The Raiders would go 10-3-1, and win the AFC West once again. Lamonica would be taken out early in the divisional round, and watched Ken Stabler make his case for the future starter of the Raiders, as he nearly led the game winning drive over the Steelers until the immaculate reception happened. Lamonica stuck around for a couple more seasons as Stabler's backup and taking a few starts here and there, but eventually hung it up at the age of 33. He attempted a comeback in the short lived World Football League, but that plan pretty much immediately went bust, as he couldn't even start there. So, Lamonica benefited a lot from playing in the AFL, and to be honest, I think his interception totals helped make that wins with bad defense rate appear just a little bit better, because you could almost guarantee that he'd contribute points to the opposing defense. Regardless, he was a proficient quarterback at winning the games, and he was perfect for the AFL, because just chucking it deep every play was the best thing you could do. Lamonica excelled against man coverage, but was suspect when his opposition threw in zone defense, because how do you chuck it deep with a safety over the top every time? Well, Lamonica would try, and he would find a way. His winning percentage with good defenses was also incredible, as one would expect from a player with only 22 losses in 93 starts. Is Lamonica the second best quarterback of all time? No, not in the slightest. Did he win at an absurdly proficient rate in an era primarily known for slug it out defenses where most of the best QB's of the era were also on teams with the best defenses of the era? Hell yeah he did, and that's insane. These win rates are insane. They are tempered a bit by an adjustment, adding the last three years of his career where he could barely get onto the field NFL or WFL, and he typically averaged 14 starts a season once he got going, that dropped his wins above average to a still impressive 2.148 games in a 16 game season. That did put him just behind his successor though. Logicblade fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Aug 16, 2019 |
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1. Spawn of Belichick (New England Patriots 2000-Current)*** 1st Place Patriots QB Career Record 222-63-0 (77.89%) 1st out of 102 Record in Games with Good Defense 168-13-0 (92.82%) 2nd out of 102 Record in Games with Bad Defense 54-50-0 (51.92%) 2nd out of 102 Percentage of Games with Good Defense 181/285 (63.51%) 12th out of 102 (+11) Wins above Average in a 16 Game Season (3.532) (3.560 after the 2018 season)  We're onto Cincinnati.
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 I see what you did there. And there *clicks back a page or two* and there Thread delivers.
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Watching Peyton in the regular season was a treat. You could see the moment in the game where he worked out everything there was to know about the opposing defense's plan better than their own DC and suddenly he's just hitting guys all over the field catching the defense visibly wrong-footed over and over. He was smart in a very flashy way if that makes sense - you really could see it in real time. Playoff Peyton largely earned his reputation, he had lots of ugly losses where he played like pure rear end, balanced out statistically by blowing out some wild card round scrubs and wins in defensive slogs because of Bob Sanders or Von Miller and DeMarcus Ware. That comeback win over the Patriots on the way to his first Super Bowl was the big exception of course. The Super Bowl itself was anti-climactic by comparison once the WHY THE gently caress KICK TO HESTER?!? wore off. Belichick was the only guy who regularly stymied him mentally, because he was the one guy who would just dump his entire plan week to week or even drive to drive. Logicblade posted:1. Spawn of Belichick (New England Patriots 2000-Current)*** We all knew this was how it would end whether we liked it or not. The Lamonica swerve was 
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tom brady is a kid kisser who cheats at football
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Logicblade posted:1. Spawn of Belichick (New England Patriots 2000-Current)*** Agreed that Beli gets the credit.
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ELO Musk posted:Agreed that Beli gets the credit. Until we're ranking coaches, then he lucked into the GOAT in the 6th round.
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sean10mm posted:Until we're ranking coaches, then he lucked into the GOAT in the 6th round. No one says this
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Sad we reached the end of the list 
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Sheen Sheen posted:Do Running Backs next 
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I'm glad that Thomas Brady is only second best in two categories.
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Quiet Feet posted:I'm glad that Thomas Brady is only second best in two categories. Cheating, bribery, pedophilia, and more cheating only get you so far.
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Please use the picture of Tom Brady kissing his dad for his write up.
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People really need to let go of their bitterness from Tom Brady stomping the poo poo out of everyone for like 2 decades. It's unhealthy. Maybe have a scoop of his avocado ice cream, which has 22g of fiber and 28gr of fat, I think that should smoothly purge your system of uh anything basically lmao
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54-50 record in games with bad defenses, loving lmao.
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sean10mm posted:People really need to let go of their bitterness from Tom Brady stomping the poo poo out of everyone for like 2 decades. It's unhealthy. 20 years from now, he'll be remembered fondly, but everyone but Pats fans loathe him at this time
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List invalidated, next thread, thank u
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Kalli posted:54-50 record in games with bad defenses, loving lmao. All kidding aside, I never would have guessed that's what #2 all-time would look like! "Bad defense" was basically defined as "almost everything worse than the mean" here too, it's not like it's grading the QB against winning when they give up 35+ or something. I thought the top of the list would have guys we've actually heard of pushing .600 or something with a definition that loose, but lolnope,  defense means you're turbofucked basically and the greats only improve that to "ehhhh coin flip chance, I guess?"
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:20 years from now, he'll be remembered fondly, but everyone but Pats fans loathe him at this time The same thing has already started happening for Peyton Manning. There was a large portion of football fans (besides Pats fans) that used to revile him nearly as much as Brady.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:The same thing has already started happening for Peyton Manning. There was a large portion of football fans (besides Pats fans) that used to revile him nearly as much as Brady. Same with Favre I'm proud to say I hold my sports grudges till death
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Ehud posted:tom brady is a kid kisser who cheats at football Thank you for being correct and sparing me the responsibility
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Its ashame the model was bad and disqualified the real goat Vince Young
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I love Tom Brady like I love my wife, and I love my wife.
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Aug 16, 2019 16:46
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sean10mm posted:All kidding aside, I never would have guessed that's what #2 all-time would look like! Defense wins championships.
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Aug 16, 2019 16:48
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It's beautiful, it's fantastic. Much love for the time it took to put this thread together. Also, there are 7 people who down-voted the thread because their QB was not ranked higher.
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NAME AND SHAME
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