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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/after-undercover-video-exposes-animal-abuse-at-fair-oaks-farms-grocery-store-removes-products/quote:A dairy farm in Indiana has come under immense scrutiny after an undercover video released by an animal rights group revealed newborn calves being abused by farm employees. Footage shows Fair Oaks Farms workers dragging calves by their ears, throwing them into small plastic enclosures and hitting them with milk bottles. tl;dr person spends 3 month at a dairy farm, quickly finds rampant animal abuse and surprise cameos by cocaine and marijuana The big video itself at the center of all this, URL because the thumbnail is a bummer: As always, you can find all the outrage you want on Twitter: I guess my question is why the hell would anyone wanna attack cows anyway? Sure, they can be dumb as a loving brick but I just don't know how you get to this point. They stand around, eat, poo poo and moo. Maybe people are just jealous? I guess this thread can also double as the "this happens a lot more than we'd like to admit/farms are loving awful" thread, if anyone has stories to share. The worst I've got is the high number of pasture parties I never went to back in my hometown. But hey, even then at least people were partying with cows and not....yknow, being awful to em.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 17:02 |
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I used to go to my grandparent's farms a lot and they had a very horny and smelly goat called Ace who got massive erections if a little bit of soapy water got into his creepy goat eyes. That's my farm story, though the circumstances there are probably better than the ones in the OP
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 17:06 |
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i have cows. they're retarded. this is false. thanks OP take my 5
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 17:07 |
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So, this is how livestock auctions get to be.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 17:07 |
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This will do nothing to halt my desire for milk, cheese and NY Strip steaks
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 17:26 |
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strongly suspect that people who get enjoyment from hurting animals when they can get away with it generally have the same mentality toward humans and should probably be thrown into the sun
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 17:51 |
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this is the undercover expose i want to see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANHjRWShHvE
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 17:56 |
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Imagine actively voting to perpetuate the abuse of animals. https://apnews.com/baf3b2fa1dae4f518e8e79df32a4bec5
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 18:42 |
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Not every good person is an animal lover but I’ve never met or even heard of someone who abused animals but was otherwise cool or fun to be around. It’s just a clear indicator of being a lovely person.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 18:47 |
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If you can recognize that it is cruel to drag and hit them you should also be able to recognize that it is cruel to slaughter them. scooby doo running sound effect plays as brain immediately scrambles to rationalise that part away.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 19:13 |
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Moon Atari posted:If you can recognize that it is cruel to drag and hit them you should also be able to recognize that it is cruel to slaughter them. scooby doo running sound effect plays as brain immediately scrambles to rationalise that part away. I think you can want steak while also hoping whatever death the cow got was quick. I could very well be wrong on this one, but I'm not sure how many people sit down and ask for a steak, medium tortured.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 19:17 |
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tortured steak is the new aged steak for the wealthy elite
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 19:20 |
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Bust Rodd posted:Not every good person is an animal lover but I’ve never met or even heard of someone who abused animals but was otherwise cool or fun to be around.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 19:21 |
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What is the point of killing the calves if they're your source of profit? Was it like just the bulls? Do they raise male cows for meat or do they quickly cull them like male chicks at poultry farms?
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 19:22 |
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Moon Atari posted:If you can recognize that it is cruel to drag and hit them you should also be able to recognize that it is cruel to slaughter them. scooby doo running sound effect plays as brain immediately scrambles to rationalise that part away. get personal politics out of here gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jun 8, 2019 |
# ? Jun 8, 2019 19:34 |
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Where does cow tipping fall in the spectrum? And yeah this shouldn’t be a veganism thread imo. Abuse is bad was ops point.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 19:48 |
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Burt Sexual posted:Where does cow tipping fall in the spectrum? Cows sleep laying down. Putty posted:What is the point of killing the calves if they're your source of profit? Was it like just the bulls? Do they raise male cows for meat or do they quickly cull them like male chicks at poultry farms? those weren't slaughtered calves, they were dying from abuse & neglect
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 19:59 |
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This is the natural outcome of eating meat at such industrial volumes. Repent carnivores.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:09 |
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Peanut President posted:Cows sleep laying down. rip
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:10 |
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I'm not trying to promote veganism or anything, but it seems like whenever livestock gets treated like a faceless product and nothing else, horrific abuse ensues.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:11 |
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The worst part is that this place marketed itself as a tourist attraction specifically because it was supposedly a humane dairy. My parents had been there several times. They are not happy about this. The thing that made me angriest was the fact that they just lied about using the calves for veal.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:16 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:its possible to kill an animal via utterly painless methods or through means that are so fast there is no opportunity for the animal to suffer Is killing something that would rather live not cruel in and of itself, even if not especially painful? Do you think capitalist industry would bother to reliably achieve such carefully executed murder? Even in terms of how the human workers are treated it seems like one of the least ethical or regulated industries.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:18 |
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When I grow up I’m going to bovine university!
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:18 |
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A lot of this probably stems from these places hiring the dregs of society, because I highly doubt they care if you have a non drug related felony.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:19 |
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DangerDongs posted:A lot of this probably stems from these places hiring the dregs of society, because I highly doubt they care if you have a non drug related felony. In the video there's literally footage of dudes snorting coke and smoking weed out of a soda can pipe, as well as marijuana plants growing right there on the property, so I don't think they care about drugs much either.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:22 |
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EorayMel posted:I used to go to my grandparent's farms a lot and they had a very horny and smelly goat called Ace who got massive erections if a little bit of soapy water got into his creepy goat eyes. He sounds like he lived a good life and if it was a just world these calves would live happy lives getting massive erections from errant soap as they frolicked in the fields.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:32 |
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Kuato posted:When I grow up I’m going to bovine university! Iowa state has this. Moon Atari posted:Is killing something that would rather live not cruel in and of itself, even if not especially painful? No. And no that’s why regulations are required.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:32 |
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DangerDongs posted:A lot of this probably stems from these places hiring the dregs of society, because I highly doubt they care if you have a non drug related felony. Plenty of felons who show plenty of respect and love for animals, the problem is that animal abuse is so common, hard to prosecute, and even difficult to expose, that just "normal," regularly everyday people with no criminal history can abuse the poo poo out of animals with little to no recourse from the law. And they know that, so in cases like this farm they can indulge in their imp of the perverse and just be as sadistic as they please.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:35 |
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The fact that the head of this company is a veteranarian isn't lost on me. Gonna be interesting to see if anything happens to that side of his business, too.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 20:45 |
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numbertwoposter posted:i have cows. they're retarded. this is false. being stupid as poo poo just re-enforces the point they're big dogs
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 22:13 |
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Moon Atari posted:Is killing something that would rather live not cruel in and of itself, even if not especially painful? yes. male chicks are killed by hundreds a day falling asleep in a co2 chamber. the captive bolt pistol that can kill something virtually instantly has been the blockbuster movie accessory of choice for the past decade. everyone but you knows about these things probably gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jun 8, 2019 |
# ? Jun 8, 2019 22:29 |
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Idk if the method of killing matters so much, the real cruelty is in penning animals in a tiny room for their entire life.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 22:39 |
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"I am disgusted by and take full responsibility for the actions seen in the footage" says owner, before firing four people and not being fired or punished in any way himself.
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 22:39 |
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Shinjobi posted:pasture parties
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 22:43 |
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Colonel Cancer posted:Idk if the method of killing matters so much, the real cruelty is in penning animals in a tiny room for their entire life. But enough about weed dealers
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 22:43 |
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I mean, at least they were fired, mostly before this went public? It seems quite well handled for once, even if the precognitive crime squad were asleep at the wheel as usual E: Oh welp, on the general conditions perhaps not
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 22:44 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:yes. male chicks are killed by hundreds a day falling asleep in a co2 chamber is it human-sized asking for myself because i don't have any friends
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 22:59 |
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Yeah they just stuff an old Toyota full of chickens and leave it in a garage
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 23:03 |
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DangerDongs posted:A lot of this probably stems from these places hiring the dregs of society, because I highly doubt they care if you have a non drug related felony. COW DRUGS
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# ? Jun 8, 2019 23:19 |
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gary oldmans diary posted:having children is abuse. end life Actively killing something and reproducing despite the inevitability of death are incredibly, overwhelmingly and obviously different. If your morality genuinely couldn't distinguish between giving birth and murdering a child you would be completely dysfunctional. gary oldmans diary posted:yes. male chicks are killed by hundreds a day falling asleep in a co2 chamber. the captive bolt pistol that can kill something virtually instantly has been the blockbuster movie accessory of choice for the past decade. everyone but you knows about these things probably Literally every bit of footage that has ever emerged from slaughter houses looks bad, and it is an industry that goes to great lengths to try to avoid leaks and has lax regulations in most places. In most western countries more than half of all meat sold is halal or kosher slaughtered, meaning the captive bolt doesnt kill but provides a "reversable, temporary stun", to make the animal less mobile during the actual killing method (bleeding out from slit carotid artery). There is pretty extensive evidence that this stunning is far from carefully administered and maintained anesthesia, and it being far from unconsciousness. Even if it is a killing blow, the process of getting to the bolt isn't without cruelty, with most spending a lot of time caged and in transit before making it to slaughter. It is absolute fantasy to think slaughter houses aren't constantly punctuated by animal squeals of pain. Labourers who work in them don't even try to deny that. I've had family who have worked in them, in a country that tends to have better regulation than most, and who are very pro-meat eating, but they don't lie to themselves or others about the nature of the business. I'm not even advocating veganism, just moral honesty. It's weak ethical character to lie to yourself or accept cheap comforting fantasy like you're a kid believing your parents when they tell you your dog went to live on a nice farm somewhere.
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