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babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

amber is just a shittier matt anyways

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MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





xerxus posted:

Somehow if the American people are shown that Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Party are mostly working for capital, people will rise up?
lol "mostly" but also no, not really, but it can't hurt

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

just finished the stav episode of hasan's podcast. the back half is excellent

crazy eyes mustafa
Nov 30, 2014
'PMC' is a thing people made up to make themselves angrier, lol

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

babypolis posted:

amber is just a shittier matt anyways

lmao no, Matt is the color commentary but Amber is the actual Play by Play. Matt is better at looking at what has happened, but Amber is much better at reading what is happening. Matt historically and very famously gets overwhelmed and kinda just shuts down when things don’t go his way, Amber is actually capable of responding to something and interpreting it as it is occurring.

Amber haters ITT are so weird, she was awesome for the last year she was actually on the show, except the one episode she did where she had just moved and was very obviously on pills or a couple edibles.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Amber will have my undying love for the single off mic quip on cum town when she was leaving her and Nick's apartment saying she was "off to get her dick wet"

Reik
Mar 8, 2004
I hear Amber stopped going on Chapo because they didn't publicly defend Virgil.

Populon
Mar 1, 2008

What's the matter,scared?

Amber was also a groomer

Reik
Mar 8, 2004
Amber groomed Virgil.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.
A groomer groomer, the worst kind

Populon
Mar 1, 2008

What's the matter,scared?

A groomer is a groomer, even in dreams

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames
The boomer groomer grooms a zoomer so that he may zooma-zoom-zoom in her boom boom but the zoomer boomed his spot so now the zoomer-groomer must zooma-zoom-zoom before it all goes booma-boom-boom

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Popy posted:

PMCs are the corporate assholes who show up to ur jobsite and chew u out for not working hard enough, or gives you loving candy for doing hard work like ur a kid instead of a loving payraise

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXPo4FF7WHk

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

Farm Frenzy posted:

I don't think any of what u just said actually contradicts with what amber said

I believe the main argument of that post was: labor aristocracy is not a valid concept, PMC is just labor aristocracy, therefore PMC is not a valid concept.

No offense, but I think the fact that you can agree with the supporting content shows how slippery "PMC" discourse is. IMO it seems to be based on a judgement of the changing aesthetic values of class relations, but the class relations themselves have not changed at all.

Eustace
Feb 26, 2009
lol at the fact that the last episode amber was on was to interview a wine aunt who wrote a 20 page "book" on such amazing insights like "the working class consumes products like this, but the pmc consumes products like THIS"

Bust Rodd
Oct 21, 2008

by VideoGames

Eustace posted:

lol at the fact that the last episode amber was on was to interview a wine aunt who wrote a 20 page "book" on such amazing insights like "the working class consumes products like this, but the pmc consumes products like THIS"

yeah if only they'd get back to their thought provoking analysis of which 90's political comedy had the most n-bombs

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

I thought the whole PMC thing from a marxist standpoint is how they earn money. a manager at a tech company paid primarily in stock or a new partner at a law firm with profit sharing have different class relations than people who make their money through wage labor. not quite ownership, not quite workers, therefore a new label was appropriate

it's definitely a sliding scale, and something consciously adopted by and large in the 80s with the advent of the 401k and stock disbursements to even lower-level employees. I've never owned a stock and I feel like I have a somewhat different life than friends who have $500,000 of equity vest after three years at their fancy do-nothing jobs

i say swears online has issued a correction as of 17:21 on Aug 28, 2021

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

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The Chad Jihad posted:

Honest to god I dont see PMC used very much

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdmsPG-BfRw

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Eustace posted:

lol at the fact that the last episode amber was on was to interview a wine aunt who wrote a 20 page "book" on such amazing insights like "the working class consumes products like this, but the pmc consumes products like THIS"

I don't know why they tried to frame that episode as an analysis one. It was funny to hear them make fun of products like that, although the baby monitor they made fun of was created to prevent SIDS.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

AnimeIsTrash posted:

I don't know why they tried to frame that episode as an analysis one. It was funny to hear them make fun of products like that, although the baby monitor they made fun of was created to prevent SIDS.

I liked wine aunt, episode had a fun vibe but yeah it was definitely a lil frivolous

i say swears online has issued a correction as of 17:35 on Aug 28, 2021

AnEdgelord
Dec 12, 2016
I still remember will and amber doing that awful episode with taibbi during the protests last year

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

lol yeah the "police are working class" episode was awful, just a poo poo analysis of the situation

Quotey
Aug 16, 2006

We went out for lunch and then we stopped for some bubble tea.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Amber :: JD Vance but with much better politics

(okay that might be a bit of an exaggeration)

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

People have been yelling at the trillbillies for being antivaxxers because for the last couple of episodes their covid take has been the US failed in every conceivable way. Lol

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

Bust Rodd posted:

lmao no, Matt is the color commentary but Amber is the actual Play by Play. Matt is better at looking at what has happened, but Amber is much better at reading what is happening. Matt historically and very famously gets overwhelmed and kinda just shuts down when things don’t go his way, Amber is actually capable of responding to something and interpreting it as it is occurring.

Amber haters ITT are so weird, she was awesome for the last year she was actually on the show, except the one episode she did where she had just moved and was very obviously on pills or a couple edibles.

uuhhh what the hell are you talking about

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005
everyone itt is a simp for matt

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

babypolis posted:

uuhhh what the hell are you talking about

Busted Rods

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Bip Roberts posted:

everyone itt is a simp for matt

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

The dialectical struggle of history has always, essentially, been a question of how to apply justice to matter. Take away matter and what remains is justice.
I'm a thot for matt

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Type of GBS goon that discovered socialism in 2016 ftw.

lobster shirt
Jun 14, 2021

matt christman ahegao

lumpentroll
Mar 4, 2020

The hotter, the wetter, the better

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Ytlaya posted:

Amber :: JD Vance but with much better politics slightly bigger tits

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

sleeptalker posted:

I believe the main argument of that post was: labor aristocracy is not a valid concept, PMC is just labor aristocracy, therefore PMC is not a valid concept.

No offense, but I think the fact that you can agree with the supporting content shows how slippery "PMC" discourse is. IMO it seems to be based on a judgement of the changing aesthetic values of class relations, but the class relations themselves have not changed at all.

I actually made a typo there. I meant that Labor Aristocracy never stopped being valid, so the concept of a PMC is redundant when labor aristocracy has the same explanatory power. PMC just ends up being a kind of workerist concept.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

AnimeIsTrash posted:

People have been yelling at the trillbillies for being antivaxxers because for the last couple of episodes their covid take has been the US failed in every conceivable way. Lol

They're right. The government spread so much disinformation about covid that it's impossible to even tell what the truth is anymore, without following it obsessively. So if you're not keyed in to the daily goings of the pandemic, it just sort of ends up washing over you while you wait for the next vaccine to drop. Meanwhile the rest of society has already given up and poo poo is getting worse than ever before.

MeatwadIsGod
Sep 30, 2004

Foretold by Gyromancy

Victory Position posted:

private military contractors are the true citizens of the world

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002


Kaz Miller go on Chapo.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

They're right. The government spread so much disinformation about covid that it's impossible to even tell what the truth is anymore, without following it obsessively. So if you're not keyed in to the daily goings of the pandemic, it just sort of ends up washing over you while you wait for the next vaccine to drop. Meanwhile the rest of society has already given up and poo poo is getting worse than ever before.
I don't know how you argue otherwise. Or why liberals listen to the trillbilly's.

Speaking of the trillbilly's, I really liked the last premium episode they did. They talked for a bit about rappers and their ties to groups like the 5 percenters, the moorish science temple, and other organizations like that. Wish a podcast would do a deep dive because sounds fun as hell.

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Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

sleeptalker posted:

I believe the main argument of that post was: labor aristocracy is not a valid concept, PMC is just labor aristocracy, therefore PMC is not a valid concept.

No offense, but I think the fact that you can agree with the supporting content shows how slippery "PMC" discourse is. IMO it seems to be based on a judgement of the changing aesthetic values of class relations, but the class relations themselves have not changed at all.


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I actually made a typo there. I meant that Labor Aristocracy never stopped being valid, so the concept of a PMC is redundant when labor aristocracy has the same explanatory power. PMC just ends up being a kind of workerist concept.

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