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i say swears online posted:this was fascinating tbf what I'm still not entirely clear on was that Carlin made the Anabaptists sound like cult members, such that the revolt was like some kind of medieval Waco / Ruby Ridge, when I get the impression that they were somewhat more similar to The Diggers of ye olde England
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look I just like thinking about violent amish
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 06:06 |
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i say swears online posted:look I just like thinking about violent amish
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 06:15 |
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gradenko_2000 posted:what I'm still not entirely clear on was that Carlin made the Anabaptists sound like cult members, such that the revolt was like some kind of medieval Waco / Ruby Ridge, when I get the impression that they were somewhat more similar to The Diggers of ye olde England I listen to In Our Time, the BBC pop-history/culture/science podcast, and half the time with the history episodes it's to get angry with the guests they have on. Their episode on the Siege of Munster took a similar view of the Anabaptists from what I recall. They throw in a bit of anti-communist, anti-Jacobin propaganda too. It's wild how much they are against the French Revolution on that show. Here's the description quote:Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss the Siege of Munster in 1534-35, when radical Anabaptists tried to create the 'New Jerusalem' in a small German town, with horrific consequences.
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Atrocious Joe posted:I listen to In Our Time, the BBC pop-history/culture/science podcast, and half the time with the history episodes it's to get angry with the guests they have on. Their episode on the Siege of Munster took a similar view of the Anabaptists from what I recall. They throw in a bit of anti-communist, anti-Jacobin propaganda too. It's wild how much they are against the French Revolution on that show.
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 06:54 |
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lol Jacobin deleted the "genocide is bad, but" tweet
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 09:49 |
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Tirade posted:lol Jacobin deleted the "genocide is bad, but" tweet but not the one from 5 years ago when the article was first published https://twitter.com/jacobinmag/status/618053903284858882
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 11:37 |
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the bosnian conflict and rwanda are about the central pieces of mythology that legitimised the modern doctrine of humanitarian intervention and responsibility to protect as a just cause for war, so it's absolutely worth discussing them in that light imo
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 11:52 |
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V. Illych L. posted:the bosnian conflict and rwanda are about the central pieces of mythology that legitimised the modern doctrine of humanitarian intervention and responsibility to protect as a just cause for war, so it's absolutely worth discussing them in that light imo i'd pin that more on the first iraq war and even the shift in warhawk rhetoric in the us toward narcoterrorism in the 80s to justify our loving around in latin america
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 12:10 |
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the kuwati ambassador daughter scam is legitimately one of the greatest scams of all of history
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 12:13 |
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was it sniper 2 or sniper 3 that took place in serbia in the late 90s and the plot revolved around the snipers rescuing a dissident journalist
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The Muppets On PCP posted:i'd pin that more on the first iraq war and even the shift in warhawk rhetoric in the us toward narcoterrorism in the 80s to justify our loving around in latin america i agree that it bears including, but rwanda and then bosnia really cements the ideology that's going to end up in libya - the democratic party's kind of war regardless, the point stands - if you're interested in the outward ideology of western military action post cold-war, bosnia is an important case
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 12:23 |
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Crane Fist posted:Me, because I've abandoned politics and started exclusively listening to rude tales of magic Hey, thank you for this. I'm really enjoying it.
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 12:32 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:was it sniper 2 or sniper 3 that took place in serbia in the late 90s and the plot revolved around the snipers rescuing a dissident journalist sorry I only played sniper ghost warrior 3 and the plot vaguely resembles this
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 13:34 |
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I don't have strong feelings either way, but there is a massive amount of white women trying to "cancel" a brown-skinned Muslim man for cracking jokes about Elizabeth Warren: https://twitter.com/shafieikeyvan/status/1282075320808546304 seems relevant
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 13:44 |
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Taintrunner posted:sorry I only played sniper ghost warrior 3 and the plot vaguely resembles this the movie. it's the one where they replaced billy zane with bokeem woodbine
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 13:57 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:the movie. it's the one where they replaced billy zane with bokeem woodbine 'neither of those are real names, you can't trick me, i won't be fooled into revealing my activation phrase
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 13:58 |
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Taintrunner posted:'neither of those are real names, you can't trick me, i won't be fooled into revealing my activation phrase my reaction to reading any current day celebrity news
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The Muppets On PCP posted:i'd pin that more on the first iraq war and even the shift in warhawk rhetoric in the us toward narcoterrorism in the 80s to justify our loving around in latin america Much like everything Republicans do, they tested the waters on humanitarian war, and Democrats adopted it and codified it.
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 17:59 |
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Listened to the latest useful idiots and Taibbi is insufferable with this letter thing. Not to mention that he doesn't get the problem. The problem isn't that Bari Weiss is a hypocrite for signing that letter. The problem is that it is obviously her goal to silence criticism by treating it as a violation of freedom of speech.
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joepinetree posted:Listened to the latest useful idiots and Taibbi is insufferable with this letter thing. Not to mention that he doesn't get the problem. The problem isn't that Bari Weiss is a hypocrite for signing that letter. The problem is that it is obviously her goal to silence criticism by treating it as a violation of freedom of speech. precisely. liberals don’t seem to understand the concept of acting in bad faith, much less lying. which you think they would have learned from the bush administration and Iraq. then again if they did their fave would be implicated and Biden would be rotting in The Hague, not trying to sit in the Oval Office
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 18:48 |
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when does revolutions come back, anyone know? curious to see what duncan does after this is over, as he’s said it’s his last one (would have liked a china or cuba series but oh well)
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 18:50 |
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:when does revolutions come back, anyone know? I think he said October as far as what hes doing after I don't think he knows for sure yet he did talk on twitter a long time ago about doing a series on the Gilded age and Long Depression in the US
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Victory Position posted:the only thing more dangerous than a cop with a gun is a psychiatrist with a gun Psychiatrists are statistically more likely to be sociopaths, so that makes sense
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:when does revolutions come back, anyone know? very unfortunate that he set a deadline of ending the thing before his new book comes out because china absolutely should have been included but there's just no way he could have covered it in under a year
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 19:14 |
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KomradeX posted:Dan Carlin sucks, he's a good story teller but a terrible historian, and he's bragged about how historians don't like him. I was really into the world war one series till her cited Naill Ferguson and I stopped listening Interesting! I've never heard him brag about that but he certainly hits the "I'm not a historian" line about 60x per an episode. I didn't get that far into the WWI series either for about the same reasons, and IMO A World Undone is a much better succinct WWI summary with a fantastic narrator. The first half of the first episode sounded like he had just skimmed that book and Guns of August and added some impromptu Hitler quotes here and there.
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 19:21 |
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I had to stop listening to Dan Carlin after the millionth time he had to stop and rant about libertarianism. “The government, like all governments, was greedy and dumb. They were greedy and dumb and made stupid rules because that’s all governments do. All governments become bad because the power corrupts them into wasting money.”
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 19:27 |
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Crane Fist posted:I haven't listened to it, but would it have been something along the lines of the the shivaree? Nah, I'd be this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehmic_court
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 19:52 |
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i think of demons posted:I saw that they did a Hannah Arendt episode recently and I had to stop myself from listening to it How did they gently caress up? (There's a lot of ways, like HA was an academic philosopher coming from a very specific intellectual background that most people have no idea about and just treat EiJ as some boilerplate middlebrow journo work)
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 20:02 |
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If you meet your fave on the road, cancel him
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thotsky posted:Hey, thank you for this. I'm really enjoying it. Glad to hear it! I'm doing what I can to put the word on the street
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Trabisnikof posted:I had to stop listening to Dan Carlin after the millionth time he had to stop and rant about libertarianism. what episode was this
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 22:16 |
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:How did they gently caress up? (There's a lot of ways, like HA was an academic philosopher coming from a very specific intellectual background that most people have no idea about and just treat EiJ as some boilerplate middlebrow journo work)
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 22:25 |
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i think of demons posted:I just didn't listen as I wasn't that interested and get irritated when anyone has anything but venom for Heidegger A Heidegger-fucker like Arendt must be impossible for you to discuss, then
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# ? Jul 12, 2020 23:09 |
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Toph Bei Fong posted:A Heidegger-fucker like Arendt must be impossible for you to discuss, then
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Crane Fist posted:If you meet your fave on the road, cancel him
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Omnicarus posted:Interesting! I've never heard him brag about that but he certainly hits the "I'm not a historian" line about 60x per an episode. I didn't get that far into the WWI series either for about the same reasons, and IMO A World Undone is a much better succinct WWI summary with a fantastic narrator. The first half of the first episode sounded like he had just skimmed that book and Guns of August and added some impromptu Hitler quotes here and there. Yeah I dived into The Guns of August shortly after, he should have just done the audio book version of it
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Trabisnikof posted:I had to stop listening to Dan Carlin after the millionth time he had to stop and rant about libertarianism. Listening to his completley incoherant ramblings on his recent politics pod was good for a laugh at least. Just a superb example of a pudding-brained belief in america.
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i think of demons posted:I just didn't listen as I wasn't that interested and get irritated when anyone has anything but venom for Heidegger I have nothing but venom for no-avs. ( heidegger is a good phil, even if you don’t like his politics)
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gradenko_2000 posted:what I'm still not entirely clear on was that Carlin made the Anabaptists sound like cult members, such that the revolt was like some kind of medieval Waco / Ruby Ridge, when I get the impression that they were somewhat more similar to The Diggers of ye olde England The history of post-Munster Anabaptism is basically one big WE ARE NOT LIKE THOSE CRAZY PEOPLE cry.
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