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My inner twelve-year-old has been going apeshit since last week. SoM and SD3 were my introduction to and the beginning of my love affair with action RPGs. Not only is one of my absolute favorite games of all time finally getting an official English release, it's also getting a shiny new 3d remake with updated gameplay. Honestly, I'd still get the remake if it were just a reskin, because SD3's gameplay has aged pretty well, especially compared to SoM. But there's a lot of room to bring it up to date with modern ARPGs, and I'm learning from this thread a bunch of stuff was bugged that my stupid tween-rear end didn't notice. So far, it looks really great, and I have faith they can strike gold again. Kevin forever. Though, with these more detailed models, all the bois are pretty cute. Gonna be hard choosing my first team.
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Jun 18, 2019 03:30
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Kevin better still be as adorable as the old fan translation made him out to be
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Mar 18, 2020 19:20
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Man, watching the intro I legit got chills when the theme transitioned to Angel's Fear. My inner 12 year old is hype as gently caress. Very pleased with the combat system and how the game encourages me to jump everywhere like a madman. Wish there were more spells to play around with, but I was satisfied with the power of Angela's first one and the speed of casting. The voice acting is charming and doesn't take itself too seriously, if a bit uneven in quality/intensity. Ludgar and Lumina is fabulous, but it's a bit jarring how the model is like a rock shaped like a wisp of light. I hope all the elementals have goofy personalities.
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Mar 19, 2020 07:10
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I just happened to start watching Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts this week, and I swear Angela's is the same VA
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Mar 19, 2020 07:22
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Playing Angela's flashback after having Kevin as a primary felt like a bit of a slog. Am I missing some neat trick, or is that just what the non-combat specialists have to deal with early on?
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Mar 19, 2020 17:28
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seiferguy posted:That's how it was in the original, Angela had to slog through the ice with her staff and nothing else. Yes, I vividly remember doing a run like that *shudder* I was wondering if they threw her a bone this time. Oh well, the first spell already feels pretty great, so hopefully that makes up for it. Or just pick her as a sidekick and skip all that, lol.
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Mar 19, 2020 17:36
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timp posted:I really like what they did with this track Yeah, I normally hate remade tracks from 8/16-bit originals. It always feels like something was lost in translation. That hasn't happened here. They managed to keep the charm of the original while still feeling modernized.
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Mar 19, 2020 18:08
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How can anyone judge the difficulty of the game when all we have available is essentially the tutorial?
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Mar 19, 2020 18:39
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Harrow posted:I'm mostly going by the gameplay video that came out last week. Maybe they were playing on easy but they utterly annihilated every enemy and nuked the boss super quickly without ever needing to heal (even with intentionally failing a boss mechanic to show it off), and that was a much later-game area. It seems weird to me they'd play on easy mode for a gameplay preview video so I was assuming it was normal mode. Maybe they were really, really overleveled? They're 3 levels higher than the boss and 7 higher than the mobs. Not necessarily really overleveled, but still significant. I don't think it's necessarily weird to do the game in easy mode if they just want to show off the gameplay. It's very likely not hard mode though, and we don't have enough information to say whether that'll be a challenge or not. Throne of Bhalz posted:I am anti-Charlotte. What's youw pwobwem?
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Mar 19, 2020 19:33
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timp posted:That tracks. It’s funny when she’s not your 3rd party member and she’s just begging to join you. Hawkeye was just like “absolutely not” and I lol’ed I got spooked by Angela when turning a corner in Wendel, because I assumed the "party members disappear inside you" thing happened. Nice touch when I got used to it.
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Mar 19, 2020 19:40
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It's going to be funny finding out how things are supposed to look versus how my mind interpreted the sprites. To me, Ludgar was always this bloodhound-faced dude with a glorious lion mane. But it turns out he's pretty, and what I thought were jowls were his pecs.
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Mar 19, 2020 22:39
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Rofl, I had realized the different main characters rotated saying the title on the title screen, but "Twails of Mana" still took me off guard.
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Mar 20, 2020 01:33
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I wanna know if they came up with Deathjester based completely on looks and without regard to the original Japanese.
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Mar 20, 2020 05:25
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Beefstew posted:Demo was good. Biggest shocks were gay Lumina and Kevin swimming across the loving ocean because he's too dumb to get a boat. He actually does swim in the original! But it's such a quick scene it's easy to miss. I love that they expanded on those little things. And don't call my boi dumb 
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Mar 20, 2020 08:50
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Aww man, Hawkeye's ninja spells aren't officially called jutsus
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Mar 20, 2020 19:32
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Bruceski posted:That's not what I got from Lumina at all, it was more "hey Jake, want to do a voice in this?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAtC1SzWSXg
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Mar 20, 2020 20:10
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Twelve by Pies posted:* Except Charlotte. She's completely intolerable. I hope she's gone forever after Wendel. Who huwt youw?
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Mar 20, 2020 23:51
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I want to do some playthroughs of the original to hype myself up. Are there any guides on the stat system and comparison of the classes? I never really understood it and those archaic systems were always my least favorite thing about 90s (and sadly still some modern) RPGs. I know some things were bugged and not fixed in the collection. I'd prefer something based on the most current understanding, and not something uploaded to GameFAQs in the early 2000s, rofl.
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Mar 22, 2020 00:35
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Captain Oblivious posted:What makes you think current understanding has significantly changed relative to GameFAQs in the early 2000s on a game that old? I don't want to read a goddamn text file, lol. Also other stuff that may have been totally mapped out since then, like the exact formula for damage calculation or something. I also learned that crits/dodging don't work at all and don't recall that being confirmed knowledge back in the day. Based on watching GDQ, people are always learning weird new quirks about old games.
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Mar 22, 2020 01:35
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Noob question about OG game: can you dash toward enemies in combat, or that just my AI allies being cheaters? Side note: I was a spoiled emulator player and used tilde all the time to save time
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Mar 23, 2020 02:11
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I hope they revamp the gear system so it amounts to more than just "buy the new thing when it's in stores". Although it's more satisfying than I like to admit when you upgrade and feel the power spike. On a related note, (in the OG game) is there a difference between light and dark classes' gear besides flavor? Do dark classes get stronger weapons in general? GameFAQs isn't helpful there, or when it comes to comparing classes in general. Lots of info that sounds like it was based on intuition vs data.
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Mar 23, 2020 18:00
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Cipher Pol 9 posted:I hope someone cracks the game before it comes out so they can just tell me where to put my points. I love this game but I do not like thinking about stat builds. Eh, at least they let you respec. That should encourage experimentation and finding things out on your own. I can't play a lot of old RPGs because of the ability to "ruin" your character, and feeling like I need to use guides just to avoid that.
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Mar 23, 2020 18:54
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I hope the spells get rebalanced so that nothing is completely worthless. I'm already a little regretful about my decision to go light with Hawkeye in my pre-remake-release run
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Mar 23, 2020 22:10
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Started playing through Hawkeye's intro, and well, I don't think Isabella is using magic to manipulate anyone O_O
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Mar 24, 2020 08:10
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DoubleDonut posted:Towns having the same layout as the SNES version and running around them in 3D is great. It feels like a fan-made remake that would get a C&D before releasing anything, or that would release a few renders and then not actually ever get around to making the game itself, except it's real and you can play it This is the perfect description and makes me appreciate it so much more. Those types of projects really have a lot of passion and love for the source material behind them, and I get that feeling about this one.
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Mar 24, 2020 22:58
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Bruceski posted:*Isabella enters* Honestly, this scene made me laugh out loud and works really well for me combined with her voice acting. And I'm normally instantly turned off by any game where "has anime girls" is a selling point".
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Mar 25, 2020 05:59
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So much good music stuck in my head from obsessively playing the OG game for the past few days. My one* complaint about the soundtrack is that the Dangaard music doesn't appear often enough. *Okay one more with the remake. The standard boss music needs to pump up the bass
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Mar 26, 2020 19:06
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I hope ??? Seeds are less RNG, if they even keep that mechanic intact.
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Mar 27, 2020 01:24
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Finally finished my first pre-remake run-through! Really look forward to seeing how the scenes play out in 3D. Did not regret having nomad Hawkeye around to trivialize the final boss... I decided to do a run for each faction story. Now to plan my next team
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Mar 30, 2020 05:35
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Eh, the OG art for Riesz wasn't that modest. Her boobs may have been smaller, but it was the 90s https://mana.fandom.com/wiki/Riesz
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Mar 30, 2020 17:13
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They're replacing it with just her blowing a kiss
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Mar 30, 2020 23:20
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Leaked tomato men redesigns
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Apr 2, 2020 21:57
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Erpy posted:That will either lead to some very pointless results (Angela's light classes) or some very solid ones. (Angela's dark classes, Hawkeye's light classes) I assume every class is going to have a variety of passive perks, while distribution of spells is relatively untouched. Like, otherwise going dark Kevin will be really boring. This should give them an opportunity to draw more distinction between the more samey classes of the original.
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Apr 5, 2020 20:14
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These designs are certainly as horny as the current models, with just the angle leaving more to the imagination. https://mana.fandom.com/wiki/Angela?file=Angela_Magus.png https://mana.fandom.com/wiki/Riesz?file=Riesz_Fenrir_Knight.png What are the sources of these? All I can tell is that they've been around for a few years, but not whether they're from way back in the 90s.
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Apr 6, 2020 20:10
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Aren't there still versions of the +/- DEX spells? The leaked datamine still shows "Accelerate", and presumably the description is "Boosts ally's evade and accuracy"
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Apr 9, 2020 19:33
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With just under 2 weeks left, I just want to give a shout-out to a game that I don't feel gets the recognition it deserves and potentially help someone looking to scratch that 90s-SNES-like ARPG itch right now. I may or may not have played it for a straight 12 hours this weekend... I can't find a better way to describe Crosscode than a love letter to that era/genre that's also an innovative, well-crafted game on its own merits. This video explains it better than I can and with pretty visuals, so I'll just leave it at that.
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Apr 12, 2020 22:52
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Folt The Bolt posted:https://www.vooks.net/qa-we-chat-to-masaru-oyamada-and-shinichi-tatsuke-on-all-things-trials-of-mana/ Nice to see they want to do something about LoM. I could never find it anywhere in stores to actually play it, but it looked so gorgeous.
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Apr 18, 2020 20:10
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Honestly, I rarely ever picked Charlotte, but her over-the-top Elmer Fudd voice delivered with total commitment actually makes me want to more.
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Apr 18, 2020 22:34
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Imagine not wanting a ridiculously cartoonishly cute necromancer on your team
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MonsterEnvy posted:It's pretty early. Later Enemies may be more difficult. Supposedly, Bil and Ben are still rear end kickers
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Apr 21, 2020 02:02
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