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| burn down Toronto if he doesn't |
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Someone explain to me how a draft can be rated the day after the draft. I'm not joking, I really want to know the process.
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Jun 21, 2019 21:55
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Look I know these guys have to write about something, but this strikes me as almost impossibly cynical. Maybe I'm just naive.
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Jun 21, 2019 22:25
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MourningView posted:you rate how you think they did based on how good you thought the players were in college/Europe/high school/whatever and how you think they project to the pros, how is this confusing, you nerd Because there's no way the writer has spent even 1% of the time scouting these players as the teams choosing them have, it seems to me to be an incredibly egotistical exercise to rate a choice from a place of relatively total ignorance. That's why I'm confused by all this, I can't imagine any one writer, much less a bunch of them, assuming or pretending to know more than several hundred scouts.
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Jun 21, 2019 22:47
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in actual basketball news, Tacko Fall signed an exhibit 10 with the celtics. this is my bet for undrafted played most likely to be on an nba roster in 3 years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5zjRWdpnCI dokmo fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Jun 21, 2019 |
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Jun 21, 2019 23:00
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Dejan Bimble posted:Do you have any thoughts about Culver, Alexander-Walker, or Morant I don't spend much time on slam dunks, mostly i study heavily contested prayers from beyond the halfcourt line. in august when work is slow and the days are long, i'll put together some lowlight videos for these guys.
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Jun 21, 2019 23:16
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WhyteRyce posted:ok now defend Vlade's picks for me I need something to say other than all i can say is it's not clear to me that Vlade is doing the picking. their front office situation is messed up. i have no idea how major decisions get made there, much less who to blame the bad ones on.
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Jun 21, 2019 23:25
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MourningView posted:Well no poo poo but if this is your standard then I assume you're just confused by the concept of sportswriting generally? Should people just not have opinions if they don't work for a front office or play? normally the writer writes something after something has happened. the team lost, and here's the reasons why according to the writer, even though the team studied their opponents much more than the writer could have. i accept that the writer will sometimes be right in these cases, but even if he isn't, the team lost and therefore something went wrong, so there's something to write about. that is not the case here. nothing has happened. the writer appears to be saying, here are the teams who made decisions that agree with my uninformed take. this kind of thing happens in sports writing, like immediately after a trade, but the day after draft ratings seem almost as ritualistic as pointless to me. the writer already wrote his mock draft, writing about how some teams ignored it is really weird. there has to be a better angle to write something about the draft. anyway i only asked because i assumed there was actually a reason i'm missing why these things were written all the time, but it appears not.
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Jun 21, 2019 23:40
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Speaking of which I'm surprised someone didn't take a chance on Terence Davis and his near Kawhi level hand size
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Jun 22, 2019 00:25
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There's no way tacko is slower than boban, the rest is probably true
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Jun 22, 2019 02:59
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the reason I think tacko has a chance is that the league started dropping the bigs back in pick-and-roll coverage far more often this season and tacko has a chance of being a factor in that kind of coverage. I mean if brook lopez can do it, any slow wingspanny big can.
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Jun 22, 2019 03:06
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Dexo posted:Not saying all of them do or even most of them, but there are dudes who watch and rewatch and analyze every single game of these players and base their opinions and thoughts off of that study. In the way that a scout would. Sure but there are 30 teams and each of them has five or ten scouts. What is the likelihood that one guy no matter how good he is going to see something that 200 other guys missed? Not to mention the information the scouts have that is not available to the public, like psych reports and medical and work habits and so on dokmo fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jun 22, 2019 |
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Jun 22, 2019 03:11
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Dexo posted:The thing is they usually aren't seeing something that 200 other guys missed they may have differering opinions on what they see and how the players project. Like how "actual" scouts can have wildly differering opinions on a prospect. I don't disagree with anything you said. I'm simply pointing out that a bunch of opinions are more likely to converge on the truth than any single opinion. Not always, but most of the time. The average of a bunch of guesses is going to be more right than any single person's guess. I certainly did not mean to impugn the basketball knowledge of any of the writers who write these things, just wondering about their motives for doing so.
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Jun 22, 2019 03:32
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While this is almost certainly incompetence, I will point out the possibility that the agent purposefully kept Rui away from some teams he didn't want his client going to.
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Jun 22, 2019 23:08
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Hashtag Banterzone posted:Unless Rui's agent has beef with the Wiz this seems odd, he should get plenty of minutes and touches this year, especially with Wall out. Agents don't make a lot of sense on this issue. They really don't want their clients playing on bad teams, despite the fact that they will be buried on the bench or in the g league if drafted by a good team. A related issue is that agents will frequently not let their clients work out for or talk to teams not drafting in the top 5/10/whatever range because they have promised their clients that that's where they'll be drafted, even though 80 different prospects have also been promised by their agents that they'll be drafted that high. In this case it makes sense, since the agent probably thinks he'll be fired if his client isn't drafted that high so he has no incentive to be more realistic about the player's prospects in the draft.
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Jun 23, 2019 00:48
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It's an interesting research question for some ambitious nerd. Like, pop has the rep of getting the most out of the talent on his team, but it's possible to think of counterexamples (Dedmon, George Hill, Scola) so I wonder how much his record is actualy better than someone else.
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Jun 26, 2019 13:26
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I desperately want to see if some team attempts to turn Frank Kaminsky into Brook Lopez. Because when I made this suggestion everyone laughed at me. But I want to have the last laugh.
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Jun 27, 2019 18:39
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Somewhat Heroic posted:Whenever I see the Rockets and think about them trying to sign on someone new I just can't figure out how they thought that signing Chris Paul to a massive contract like that at the age he was. The man will be thirty six in his final year. How did anyone think that having a player plagued with past injuries would have the ability to play competitively into his 16th year of the NBA? The man's agent clearly deserves the bulk of that contract. Some teams roll the dice on the best chance to win a championship in a given season. They came pretty close that season.
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Jun 28, 2019 21:07
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Dexo posted:Hey people who watch waaaay too much basketball tell me about this dude Can't shoot, can't finish, can pass a little, maybe he can defend a little?
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Jul 3, 2019 01:17
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Bip Roberts posted:Quick question about the 230 win share moving stat. Are there definitionally 1230 (15*82) win shares generated a year? no, it's scaled so that it comes out to ~around 1230 wins, but that's not in the definition. Over the last five seasons the average has been about 1255 wins.
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Jul 12, 2019 23:56
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zelah posted:Pulling this from pages back to remind y’all that there’s not a single Blazer jersey in this highlight reel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUs9rG7XEDs
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Jul 13, 2019 17:50
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no thoughtful discussion of PNRs can be complete without mentioning James Harden's next level two point oh evolution, the pickless pick and roll.
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Jul 16, 2019 14:43
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MCW has made 147 threes
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Jul 16, 2019 16:44
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I would be interested in hearing some thoughts of Westbrooks possible role in Houston's offense. It's easy to think of ways it could go wrong, what I'm curious about is how it could go right, like whether Harden or Russ or both or the team's whole offense changes. I was very wrong about how Bosh and Wade integrated their roles into Lebron's, and how the Heat changed their offense to suit the three of them, so now I don't say my thoughts about these kinds of things with much certainty anymore. But I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas of what the best case scenario of Westbrook's role would look like next to Harden.
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Jul 17, 2019 21:46
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uggy posted:There’s a lot larger sample of him not shooting threes well, like he’s historically bad at it for his volume. One or two above average months at the start of the year won’t change that Probably, but you never know. Coaches are incredibly short term thinkers, and players are even shorter term. It takes a lot of guts to leave a guy open who started the season hitting 40% on threes even if they know he's a bad shooter.
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Jul 17, 2019 22:39
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Dejan Bimble posted:If Dokmo or anyone with access to synergy is reading this, is it true that Westbrook didn't set a single screen for another player last year? I heard that on a radio show Come on that is nuts. Even if the player is never asked to set a screen, he will set a few by accident, just by being in the wrong place or something. In any case, screen setting metrics aren't 100% accurate yet, particularly off ball screens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2d_xriSczw
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Jul 20, 2019 02:03
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speaking of dunks, this is the edit i made of my favorites https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ2ExjPtctk
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Jul 21, 2019 02:02
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anakha posted:Splitter over Nene. the hell are you talking about. The canada team should be Tristan Thompson Rick Fox Cory Joseph Jamal Murray Steve Nash team russia is very good Timofey Mozgov Andrei Kirilenko Alexey Shved Becky Hammon Sergei Belov
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Jul 21, 2019 12:50
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Parsons was the worst because they gave it to him after his microfracture surgery.
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Jul 22, 2019 18:41
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hifi posted:When did the league actually know that microfracture surgery was bullshit? John Hollinger, who worked for the Grizzlies when the Parsons contract was signed, wrote an article about microfracture in 2006
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Jul 22, 2019 19:02
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Metapod posted:RUSS ON THE ROCKETS IS NOT RIGHT MAKE IT STOP I have not stopped thinking about this since they announced the trade.
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Jul 26, 2019 20:01
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iamsosmrt posted:Depends on how injured Lin actually still is. The only real question is if he'll get a chance to even prove he can still play. Of course he will. Every non-NBA team in the world would sign him to an NBA-friendly contract and almost every NBA team would scout at least one of his games in person and all of his games on video. I wonder if people think there's a large pool of players who have NBA talent but just haven't been given a chance.
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Jul 29, 2019 19:42
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iamsosmrt posted:I don't doubt he was capable of all the above, but did he do it regularly? The Harden and Hakeem mentions are significant because they do/did their moves all the time despite defenders knowing they're coming. I would argue that Harden's stepback is effective because he is such a threat to drive and draw fouls and defenders can't guard both the step back and the drive. He shoots the stepback against defenders (mostly bigs on switches) who sell out on the drive. Ie defenders don't know what's coming.
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Jul 31, 2019 04:21
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Comparing a couple of sportsbook over underscode:
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Jul 31, 2019 15:36
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1156590609186152449 Hmmm.
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Jul 31, 2019 18:25
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iamsosmrt posted:But didn't Hakeem actually have a positive effect on the people's he's worked with? Maybe, it's hard to know for sure. The bigger issue is that working on your post game with Hakeem in 2019 is like working on your three pointer with Maravich in 1972. It's just not a super efficient play.
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Jul 31, 2019 21:52
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Metapod posted:Do people in league offices try to sway their players to not train with certain former players? If so who I've never heard of that, but there are definitely certain quack shot doctors teams try to dissuade their players from going to.
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Jul 31, 2019 22:10
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People itt are always seriously discounting Shaq's combination of size, strength, and athleticism in the early years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkrPBAhVFn0
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Aug 1, 2019 03:06
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Kibner posted:Ben Falk decided to change his business model and make all upcoming articles longer, more in-depth, but less often. He also is making them free (he makes money by charging a fee to his stats database). His first article with this new model: The Wide-Ranging Raptors Yeah he had a great point: quote:No, the box-and-one didn’t win the Raptors the title, but it is a great example of what did: their strategic flexibility. And I don’t mean this just from a coaching standpoint. For all of the attention the box-and-one got, not enough attention was given to the fact that Toronto’s players were actually able to execute a scheme they had not played all season, maybe not even in their careers, on the biggest of stages.
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Aug 1, 2019 19:44
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For those who don't know, Dean Oliver is the OG hoops analyst who has probably worked for half the teams in the league and keeps getting work in a business that does not reward she.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/CBSSportsNet/status/1158133460491522048
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