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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
This is the non-spoiler thread for the weekly episode discussion!

Big Brother US airs three-times weekly, on Sundays, Tuesdays/Wednesdays and Thursdays on CBS.

Thursday Show - Live Show where a player is evicted, Head of Household competition held or begins
Sunday Show - Post-HOH Competition events, HOH Nominations
Wednesday Show - Veto Competition, Re-nominations if needed

The season starts June 25th! The theme for this season is all about online trending. This season the House Guests will be assessed by viewers as either positive or negatively trending. Those who are the highest trending each week, will be able to enter the BB App Store, and choose a in-game power of some kind. Those who are negatively trending will be given some form of punishment.

What is Big Brother?

Depending upon your level of appreciation for gross filth, reality TV shenanigans and sometimes excellent strategic gameplay, Big Brother is either the bottom of the TV barrel or an entertaining way to waste the summer. The American version of the Dutch original, Big Brother crams around 16 people in a soundstage house for approximately 95 days. Each week the players or "House Guests" will compete in competitions to determine who has power in the house. The one who wins this power, the "Head of Household" (HOH) has the ability to nominate two people for eviction. These two players, the HOH and three other randomly drawn guests will compete in the Power of Veto competition. The winner of this power will have the ability to veto one of the nominations. If one of the nominations is vetoed, the HOH will have to replace the player who was removed. Once the final two nominees are set, the rest of the house will vote to evict one person from the game. The HOH no longer plays a part unless this vote becomes a tie, in which case they will cast a vote to break it. Once the player is evicted, all the guests save for the previous HOH will compete in a new HOH competition and the process will repeat itself.

Each week will follow this model with some minor variations. All through this process viewers are treated to "Diary Room" (DR) sessions, as the producers will privately speak with each player about their gameplay, their thoughts on other players and the game itself. This interview process also gives the DR the ability to affect the players in subtle or not so subtle ways. (Ex: So you won HOH, who will you nominate? Do you trust player X? Why? Do you believe what they say? Do you think you should make a big move? Is nominating player X really a big move?) The best part of this is that their usually comes across on the live feeds, allowing viewers to see from where plans and moves really come.

Strategy will come into play as alliances are made and broken to ensure ones safety. Unlike some shows like Survivor, this gives the chance for those low on the totem pole to gain power and strike back against majority alliances. Approximately 4-5 weeks into the game, all future evicted players will become members of the jury. Once the house reaches the final three, all three House Guests will compete in three rounds of competition for the final HOH. Once the final HOH is selected, they'll evict the final player. These final two will then go before the jury, who will then select a winner. The various competitions within the house means there are often several opportunities for people to obtain power and exploit it or fake sucking at competitions to fly under the radar. Both strategies often prove successful to various degrees. The strategy sessions among players often prove to be one of the best aspects of the show, as you get a daily running idea of who they are targeting, who they can manipulate to do certain things and ways to ensure they achieve their goals. There is also a generally reliable amount of schadenfreude, as those on the top often hit lows through luck or DR meddling.

Why should I watch?

Perhaps you're a fan or Survivor or Amazing Race or perhaps you've seen one of the other flavors of Big Brother from around the world like the U.K., Canadian or Australian edition. Big Brother U.S. takes many of the same concepts seen in reality competition while also giving one a semi-behind the scenes view of what's really going on. Because the online "live feeds" gives viewers a window into the house for 90% of the week, we can get a good idea of what's really happening with alliances and schemes, what the players are actually like, and what meddling is possibly happening by Big Brother to get certain things to happen. One can then compare that version of reality against what they see on their screens three nights a week on CBS. In past experience, this means that viewers are sometimes treated to racist, homophobic or sexist talk which never makes air. Sometimes this happens to such a degree as to force CBS to acknowledge these actions officially and on air, as was the case with Big Brother 15.

Unlike the original Dutch version and several other international versions, the viewing public generally has no part to play in removing players from the game. However they can sometimes affect certain punishments or rewards through online or phone voting. This can include the gross food choices for the Have Not selected House Guests, or possibly secret tasks assigned to them.

What should I watch?

If you're interested in looking into past seasons, I personally recommend checking out a couple of seasons to various degrees. They'll all available through CBS All Access on the cbs.com website:

Big Brother 1: Most closely followed the original Dutch premise, as viewers voted on who got evicted. The only U.S. season to follow this model.
Big Brother 2: Switched up the format to have the HOH nominate two for eviction and features one of the most highly regarded players in show history.
Big Brother 3: Introduced the Power of Veto, which gave the nominated a better chance to save themselves. BB US took on its present form with this season.
Big Brother 7: The first and only true All Stars season. Featured players from all the previous seasons, and includes one of the fan favorite alliances in show history.
Big Brother 10: General Goon consensus as one of the best seasons, featuring a memorable cast and another contestant in the running for the best in show history.
Big Brother 12: Worthy winner, with some solid gameplay. Features subsequent Survivor player Hayden Moss and unleashed Brenchel, the now married couple of Brendon and Rachel who you might have seen on The Amazing Race.
Big Brother 14: Return of four previous players who act as "Coaches" to newbies. One of the returnees being a fan favorite who displays some of the best gameplay in show history.
Big Brother 16: Solid gameplay from the eventual winner, who ran a clinic on how not to get targeted.

Seasons to avoid:

Big Brother 9: Slap dash writers strike spring season. The winner later went to jail for illegal oxycodone sales, the rest of the cast was all generally horrible. Possibly worthwhile as a train wreck.
Big Brother 15: The misogynist and racist season. The winner played a decent game, but they and most of the players were generally derogatory and deluded people.
Big Brother 18/19: Poor game play and winners, both seasons featured returning players which greatly hampered and negatively impacted gameplay.

Okay, I'm down to watch

If you're interested, you can tune in several ways:

The CBS Show: Airs three nights a week: Sunday, Wednesday and Thursday. Is a compilation version of what has happened in the house with a live Thursday show.
Big Brother After Dark: Airs every night for three hours from around 11-2 on POP. Rotates between live feeds, censors language and has commercial breaks.
Live Feeds Online through CBS All Access: "24/7" access to the feeds barring ceremonies, competitions and the Thursday live show taping. Also blanks out feeds when some legal issue may arise. i.e. copyrighted song singing or players speaking about someone by name who didn't sign off and allow that.
CBS also provides clips of various memorable events through their Live Streaming Player.

So what do the Live Feeds get you? Four camera feeds from inside the house. Generally two cameras focusing on an area each. Meaning two cameras will cover the same conversation from different angles, while two other cameras cover another conversation. Which room is being covered will be at the mercy of the guys and gals in the control room. They are generally good about switching to conversations/events most at interest strategically or those the most entertaining. It should be noted that live feeds are not required to get a feel for the show or keep up, but it might be of interest to check out one of the previous seasons, then look for live feed clips online to see how it works. If you do find you enjoy a certain player, the feeds give you the ability to see them a lot more, get a better sense of their game and personality.

If you don't get the feeds, you can also still get a daily/hourly/minute by minute run down of what's happening. As several websites post updates on everything that happens on the live feeds within the house. These include:

http://www.bigbrothernetwork.com
http://www.hamsterwatch.com
http://www.jokersupdates.com
http://www.onlinebigbrother.com

If you wish to jump in the live feeds and talk spoilers, head over to the live feeds spoiler thread here.

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Season 21 Cast:
  • Holly Allen, 31, Lander, Wyoming; Wine Safari Guide
  • David Alexander, 29, Atlanta, Georgia; Photographer
  • Nicole Anthony, 24, Long Island, New York; Preschool Aide
  • Tommy Bracco, 28, Staten Island, New York; Broadway Dancer
  • Kathryn Dunn, 29, Irving, Texas; Digital Marketing Executive
  • Kemi Fakunle, 25, Elkridge, Maryland;Marketing Strategist
  • Jessica Milagros, 30ish, Chicago; Model
  • Cliff Hogg III, 53, Houston, Texas; Petroleum Engineer
  • Ovi Kabir, 22, Oakridge, Tennessee; College Student
  • Nick Maccarone, 27, Sewell, New Jersey; Therapist
  • Jack Matthews, 28, Chicago; Fitness Trainer
  • Jackson Michie, 24, Nashville, Tennessee; Server
  • Christie Murphy, 28,Staten Island, New York; Boutique Owner
  • Sam Smith, 31, West Nanticoke, Pennsylvania; Truck Driver
  • Analyse Talavera, 22, Northridge, California; College Soccer Star
  • Isabella Wang, 22, Mount Olive, New Jersey; Public Health Analyst

Teek fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jun 20, 2019

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Good start to the season, annoyed that we're getting yet another pre-feeds boot. Since they're using the camp theme, whomever leaves needs to become a "killer" saboteur. Someone who has to do some secret tasks at night or something for a chance to get back into the house.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Exactly, dress them up and have them write messages and steal stuff in the middle of the night.

"For your first task tonight, take this bloody shirt and place it secretly in the back bedroom."

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Openly praying for a non-6 HOH and veto this week. Please BB gods...

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Us feed watchers were shook after the feeds came back after the veto comp last Saturday. We’ve been riding a high ever since.

Show left out some stuff Christie and Analyse said during the veto comp. They made fun of Cliff who was limping from an earlier injury while helping out to retrieve the veto game darts. Nicole dragged them to Jess later on. This week has been good since it gave Nicole and Jess some feistiness that they hadn’t really been able to feel in the game so far.

Teek fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Aug 8, 2019

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Happy Birthday Tommy, hope they get you something nice tonight.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Man, they’re taking him to task. Good for them.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.

Teek posted:

Happy Birthday Tommy, hope they get you something nice tonight.

Sorry guys...

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Nominations typically are on Friday, Veto comp on Saturday and the Veto ceremony on Monday. Once the ceremony happens, Tuesday and Wednesday are typically pretty dull. Sometimes you get a lot of movement before the live show, but usually that part of the week is fairly dead.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
I had a feeling in my gut that if Tommy stayed, he was going to win. He knows the days and would be good in both the physical final HOH and decent in the “houseguest said” part 2. And the jury would have just eaten his poo poo up if he's at final 2. Now Cliff and Nicole either sit against each other or a less beloved Jackson/Holly.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, Jackson comes out of this looking like a boss. There’s no way he can sit at final 2.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Veto might be the “build this thing” using the days puzzle comp thing. I think the days are said to be a weakness for him, he could brute force it though. Hopefully it won’t be the domino or road comp, those are usually pretty lame.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Just about the perfect end to this particular season and all that entails. Please hire a more competent and self aware casting crew. Thank you.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
They have the same casting people.

Did you watch the most recent season of BB Canada? It had cast problems as well, and was ended because of Covid. So who know if it would have gotten worse or what.

One thing BB Canada did have over US though, was that they seemed more proactive in trying to address things. The fact they had to address things though points to some of the same underlying casting problems.

As far as next BB season goes, still not much word. For what it's worth, BB Is super easy to slot in to the schedule whenever they need to once productions start back up. And with so many shows on hiatus, the CBS schedule might need that BB filler to help out.

Teek fucked around with this message at 04:02 on May 10, 2020

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yearly rumors of an All Stars season for 22:

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/big-brother-eyes-second-stars-172348501.html

Rinse and repeat, but there seems like a lot of things which would align to make it more likely this year.

Easier to reel in returnees to stay in due Covid worries. 20 year anniversary. Could make it not as long due to the start being pushed back some.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Dan is probably just trolling but...

https://youtu.be/mBnKDB42I60

Apparently the clips in question from the middle of the video are recent ones.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Dan was trolling fwiw.

Current rumor is an end of month move in with early start next month. Also:

https://twitter.com/bigblagger/status/1285248524981096450?s=20

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, there’s dream list, and reality list involving all the single people who don’t mind going into the house in the current pandemic. I don’t know how many family people would be willing to go in for 70ish days.

I also hopefully think there will be more than the usual amount of minority HG presence this season, >4+?

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
TMZ with some names: https://www.tmz.com/2020/07/22/big-brother-season-22-contestants-arrive-los-angeles-quarantine-covid-testing/

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
Yeah, the only person I'm excited for on there is Hayden.

There are a lot of pairs and trios in there with previous same season history. Hopefully we'll get some shakeups in play, and not people sticking together. Wish there were more solos honestly.

Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
https://www.cbs.com/shows/big_brother/news/1009910/big-brother-all-stars-edition-premieres-wednesday-aug-5/?ftag=EOS-05-10aci3f

Guess I'll finally create a new thread!

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

I can't wait to entertain you.
On to season 22:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3933725

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