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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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This starts TONIGHT. It really snuck up on me.

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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They're pretty bad and pretty much consistently make me hate every one dimensional character they introduce with them. Every HG basically has to win me back after that.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I know its Big Brother and everyone is pretty but Analyse and Jack are like silly, distractingly, making me ask questions about myself pretty.

"I work in the oil and gas industry, I've had guns pulled on me all around the globe, and its the most fun job in the world."

:aaa:

Lots of crazy potential in this group. Christie, Nicole, Kemi, Jess, Sam, Tommy, and Kathryn all gave me various degrees of nutso vibes, Jackson seems like the cliche intense early burn out, and I have a feeling about Bella and Nick. Then again last season the first episode made Swaggy look like the most important person in the house and Angela seem interesting.

And first night evictions always suck.

Teek posted:

whomever leaves needs to become a "killer" saboteur.
Ok, I'm on board with with someone putting on a hockey mask and creeping around corners.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I was thinking like "Jason" gets to sneak in through the secret doors and poo poo and "kill" someone if he catches them off guard. Then they're "dead" and like can't tell anyone who killed them and if "Jason" manages to kill everyone he gets back in but if someone kills him they get some power or...

I don't know. I just got done watching every Friday the 13th movie in May. My mind is in a weird place.

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Jun 26, 2019

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Balon posted:

Where are the slime gifs??

For you.



STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Hey, manc, I just realized I accidently posted a spoiler there so id appreciate it if you took it out for me. I'm very sorry to anyone who read it. If it helps it's not a confirmed spoiler, just a rumored one. But I'm sorry nonetheless.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Previously on Big Brother...

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I like how obvious it is that there isn't a person in that bag.

"Gotta take some souls."
What game does Jackson think he's playing?

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Jackson is a remarkably unremarkable cliche. Thinks he's gonna bromance dominate every comp. Plays 100% of the gate while saying he shouldn't while saying he'll win everything. Just drafts people into alliances with vague threats. Offers people options that aren't real. Targets the non-pretty, non-white people. A weirdly overthought plan about returning pawns. Really creepy and offputting intensity.

I look forward to his Week 3 self destruction.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Maybe its just all the NY accents that feel like home but I'm confused by Isabella's accent.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Mahoning posted:

Ahhh yes these first night alliances formed based on nothing but first impressions. These always last.

Sadly the Week 1 cool kid alliance from last season sorta, kinda pulled it out* so it probably encourages all the recruits all the more.

*They turned on Rachel and Winston super hard. And Brent spent most of the season as a kamikaze double agent with the other side. And JC carried a lot of them. And they never would have gotten anywhere without Kaitlyn and Sam cluelessly assisting. And FOUTTE made an amazing number of mistakes.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I am shocked that the bro alliance failed to dominate every comp in the very first endurancy one as they repeatedly insisted they would.

Shocked.

edit: HA! Nicole with the worst throw ever.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I think BB is less hands on than most fans think. Like they probably ask stuff like "So do you think anyone will see anything odd about the people you picked?" but if someone is self deluded and arrogant enough not to see it in the first place they probably don't see it upon basic reflection. Its probably rare that BB gets as heavy handed as to be like "Yo, you look like a loving racist. Do something different."

And the one time they kinda DID and clearly sent Amanda out to tell Aaryn "Yo, you being racist. Stop." Aaryn's response was "Why do people always call me racist? Its because I'm beautiful, rich, and southern and they're jealous. God!"

Arrogance is a powerful tool for delusion.

That and it looked like Jackson might have had to pick them spontaneously without DR time. But who knows how that Day 1 is edited?

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Mahoning posted:

Right, but they are the ones casting these people. And it's a little exhausting having to watch southern white racists every summer, especially in our current political environment.

For sure. Its an inherent issue of the fact that CBS casts a handful of people for "diversity" but still casts predominantly young, pretty, privileged, white casts. Somewhere in an alternate dimension nearly identical to ours Big Brother casts 12 persons of color every season and they seem to always target the 4 white people who ride horses early because they "just don't fit in."

There was a good twitter thread on the idea from a member of the recent season of Survivor who dealt with the same kind of casual racism in her season (according to her one player repeatedly used the n word casually and only one person spoke up about it or to her).

https://twitter.com/thejuliacarter/status/1144284056982626305
https://twitter.com/thejuliacarter/status/1144284064297422851
https://twitter.com/thejuliacarter/status/1144284067812261888

STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Jun 28, 2019

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Ummm... if you have a majority alliance and there's a thing where you have to divide up into groups with each group competing for a prize shouldn't you be smart enough to sign up for the group that has the least number of your allies in it so that you have an even amount of chances to win all the prizes?

Also, BB has new nominee music. Change made me uncomfortable.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I mean, I'm not sure what David did that would indicate he was "below average" in competence or likability. Kemi at least made an obvious mistake of not talking to Jackson but that doesn't really explain why Jack was so upset that she dare suggest names to his HOH. And ultimately we're going to be biased judging the competency of players who left the house early because all we saw were their initial mistakes. Dan Gheesling played poorly the first few weeks of his BB career and is remembered as one of the greatest players of all time. We have no idea what kind of played David would have been.

But I think the point is that any time you put 2 black people into a cast with 12-18 white people you're putting them at an inherent sociological disadvantage. So its no real surprise that consistently people of color get targeted early for "not fitting in" or for social clashes and folks like Aaryn or Jackson take a lead role in targeting and ostracizing them while a bunch of other white people just kind of go along to get along around them.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Even that is risky since unless the house is really clearly divided you run better than even odds of someone being in the majority alliance than outside it. And even a Cliff or Kemi might be an "obvious" outsider but maybe after you tell them they go to HOH or tell someone they trust who is in the majority. That's what usually happens in these things. Last year it was people like JC and Kaitlyn effectively running interference for the alliance they didn't know existed. In BB16 you had like Britany go to Derrick/Cody and Nicole turn to Christine. Its tough to work around a house majority of 8 or 9 people.

If I'm Ovi I think my only real play is to lay low, try to win HOH, and then pay attention to who comes to me and who their targets and non-targets are and I try and piece together the big picture. Ideally with at least one trusted ally.

But who knows? Maybe he thought Christie or Ana were that one trusted ally? Its tough to know who you can trust this early.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Yeah, it seemed like a bad read, especially to not assume that the HOH or the pretty people would be in the majority, but its tough to judge from our position. Like these guys in particular were really overt with the "grateful" jokes and all the cutesy looks and smiles. But Ovi doesn't know "grateful" means anything and he doesn't have multiple camera angles and closeups.

Obviously he trusted the wrong people but I can't say I would trust the right ones if I was in his place because I've never been in his place. So the only real answer is to play everything close to the vest and bide your time and collect info. Ovi probably should have done that.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Twin Cinema posted:

The dumb thing with Ovi is that if you know there's an 8-person alliance, and there's only, what, 14 HGs outside of yourself. The chances are pretty high that you'll blab about the alliance to someone in the alliance.

Also, I like when people get mad at other people for playing the game, even though they're doing the same thing.

"Hey, lets form an alliance, put up some pawns, make some fake promises to people, and then backdoor X."
"X was talking to someone about maybe getting you up."
"HOW loving DARE X! DOES X EVEN KNOW THIS GAME?! THAT MONSTER!"

BB tradition.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Previously on Biiiiiiiiiiiiig Brother...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG_p2fqx8mA

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Christie suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks!

"Eh, its Ovi."

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I don't like her but Kat is the perfect amount of crazy for BB.

I think she might become a HUGE fan favorite unless she goes full on evil mean girl. And even still... People loved Brett.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Robnoxious posted:

Point to ponder: Kat has been on the block for a looooong time because the First Week of BB is more closer to 2.
It's easy to spiral and get paranoid over that long of stretch.

Yeah. Today is Day 15 and she's been on the block since Day 2 or 3. That's always the toughest one because its so long, you have no experience with it or example of how to behave, and you have no idea who you can trust.

And in fairness, "are you bitches conspiring against me?" is clearly just a bad joke.

But she still crazy.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Early vote. Gonna have some fun with Jason David.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Yeah, Kat went a little neurotic but her main problem is she can't read a room and could never tell she was getting on people's nerves.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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These hallway dances are way too much.

I blame Tommy.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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New Rule: No Eye Contact Or Touching In the DR Hallway!

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Sam and Nick BOTH got positive reactions from Chenbot. That's big.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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sportsgenius86 posted:

Ouchhhhh got a unanimous boot

Poor bastard's getting blindsided too.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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I hope they just get to hang out with everyone and its like "uhhh... sorry about the blindside?"

That and that Ovi still gets to use his power so the Jacks get real worried.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Sadly Ovi's too nice a guy to actually hold their lies against them.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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HAHA The look of sheer horror on Jackson's face!

That's someone who realizes he can't get away from his one night stand.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Did Julie just say "Beavis"?

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Robnoxious posted:

Nothing on Ovi's power but since he is offically "out of the game" one must assume the power is too unless he wins a buyback?

The narrator was implying the power was still active, but yeah, it might just be that it doesn't expire before the battle back.

Either way he'd probably be silly to use it on someone else on the hopes he gets back in. It would be either a big or dumb game move.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Lets go Kemi!

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Sam tried to cheat!

Go Nicole!

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Well this is an unfortunate turn of events.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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lovely week. He'll throw up Kemi and Jess. Ovi won't create any drama. Christie will grow closer to Jack. No one can risk even whispering about the rear end in a top hat.

Only good thing is Jackson knows he can't escape Kat for 2 more weeks. And David adds an unknown wrinkle.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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It gonna get real awkward when its the 3 brown people in the crappy room.

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

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Lastdancer posted:

Concentration Camp Comeback and Jack is in charge.

For Fourth of July no less.

A little on the nose, BB.

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