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Swaegsthetics
Jul 8, 2013

LabyaMynora posted:

In world 1, Ulrich dies an old man in an insane asylum waiting for Katherina to rescue him, but she never comes, because she was killed by her mother at the lake. In world 2, Ulrich is killed in the bunker by old Helge. In the prime or "real" world, Ulrich doesn't exist, because his mother grandmother, Agnes Nielsen, was Bartosz's daughter with Silje.

It's nuts how S1, the big reveal was that Jonas was a paradox because he was the son of Mikkel Nielsen after traveling back in time to 1987. Then S2 shows us that Charlotte Doppler is a paradox because Charlotte is Elizabeth's mother, and Elizabeth is Charlotte's mother, and therefore, Francesca is a paradox, too. Then S3 says, "Oh and by the way, Ulrich and all his kids, Magnus, Martha, and Mikkel, are paradoxes as well."


In real life all of humanity is such a paradox being seeded by the panspermia of some sort of preserved or reconstructed organic material from the future. Shows like this are just "signs" or teases built in to the timeline by outside influences with knowledge and some sort of desire maybe to dazzle us small beings or enlighten, who the gently caress cares.

End of the day you are just another Ulrich etc going about blind

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Swaegsthetics
Jul 8, 2013
I guess young Noah would have sold her on the sic mundus stuff since he seemed like a true believer

After he's gone and the portal is working, presumably Adam came and spoke with her offscreen. But I've always imagined what he offered her was more concrete -- that mom-aged charlotte would come through the portal in the future and they could then live out the rest of their time together. That seems like a decent reason to stay and guard it with the wilderness crew against interlopers who might screw around with the sequence of events

The kidnapping wouldn't be revealed until close to the time, and by then both Charlotte and Elizabeth understand their parentage, and there are many others who can testify to the impossibility of changing what already happened, including fransizka. Wouldn't you rather kidnap yourself and your daughter rather than some 2 unknowns who would necessarily be involved?

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