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FilthyImp posted:Comic flicks were synonymous with superhero stuff. I mean, poo poo, they made Tank Girl. I guess, like everything stupid, this is an Anglophone thing 
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Jerry Cotton posted:I guess, like everything stupid, this is an Anglophone thing The Comics Code of the 50's (Which was pushed by DC to kill off their major competitor, EC) pretty much crippled comic books as a medium in the US. Accordion Man has a new favorite as of 18:39 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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Marvel and Dc somehow managed to get a "Joint Trademark" on the term superhero, and how the gently caress is a joint trademark a thing
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Speaking of dead fandoms, anyone here remember Redwall? If you don't, imagine an old man listing off food served in a standard but massive British restaurant one plate at a time in impeccable detail. There's actually pretty good young-adult level adventuring and swordfighting, but that food. Goddamn that food.
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Accordion Man posted:More of an American thing, because Marvel and DC made sure they were pretty much the only real game in town when it came to comic books in the States for decades. just to shed a little more background on this: while i don't doubt dc benefited from their competitors ultimately getting gutted, part of the 50s backlash i mentioned earlier was aimed squarely at comic books with several of dc's characters, for e.g., getting singled out for public blame for things like the rise in homosexuality among youths (batman and robin accused of promoting queer lifestyle for gays, wonderwoman of empowering women enough to embrace lesbianism) on grounds that were both extremely shaky at the time and on grounds that would age like dairy in the amazon there were other accusations of how these stories were corrupting the young and ultimately it was enough to generate a solid, all round moral panic over them (like public book burnings level panic)... everything from romance comics marketed for girls to lurid true crime comics to cape comics for kids were attacked; some cities had already banned comic books by law entirely and others were in the process effecting it through legislature - the industry was boxed into accepting third party content control or facing more consequences instead of coming in the form of a content rating system like modern movies have that can restrict sales of some movies but not others with an R-rating for e.g., the older hays production code was used as a basis by the newly empowered Comics Code Authority regulating body and all comics had to adhere to a single set of content guidelines they invented, dc did agree to these terms - even saw opportunity in them - but as a popular publisher often singled out it was also under the heaviest scrutiny
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Plethora posted:Speaking of dead fandoms, anyone here remember Redwall? If you don't, imagine an old man listing off food served in a standard but massive British restaurant one plate at a time in impeccable detail. There's actually pretty good young-adult level adventuring and swordfighting, but that food. Goddamn that food.
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Accordion Man posted:The whole thing of how rats and weasels are just naturally evil and can never be trusted have aged really poorly though. Especially the one book with the Stoat? who was raised in Redwall but can't overcome his natural affinity for evil and ends up suiciding after betraying Redwall from within. Jacques had some issues.
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Jul 7, 2019 21:03
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Zore posted:Especially the one book with the Stoat? who was raised in Redwall but can't overcome his natural affinity for evil and ends up suiciding after betraying Redwall from within. "Evil lives in Veil" yeah that grated even then Want to say he was a ferret /e: Veil Sixclaw (Outcast of Redwall), ferret, died by throwing himself in front of a spear thrown by his father aimed at his adoptive mother stringless has a new favorite as of 21:27 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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FFT posted:"Evil lives in Veil" yeah that grated even then
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FactsAreUseless posted:His name is an anagram of Evil And "live(s)", yes Pretty on the nose for a culture that's historically put a lot of stock in anagrams to name the baby ferret "Evil". The main character from the beginning was an anagram for "I am that is" which at least was somewhat subtle stringless has a new favorite as of 21:55 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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Jul 7, 2019 21:53
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Plethora posted:Speaking of dead fandoms, anyone here remember Redwall? If you don't, imagine an old man listing off food served in a standard but massive British restaurant one plate at a time in impeccable detail. There's actually pretty good young-adult level adventuring and swordfighting, but that food. Goddamn that food. The Brian Jacques books? Those owned. Edit: except the speciest parts. I gotta refresh poo poo. Rolo has a new favorite as of 22:28 on Jul 7, 2019 |
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Jul 7, 2019 22:25
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Plethora posted:Speaking of dead fandoms, anyone here remember Redwall? If you don't, imagine an old man listing off food served in a standard but massive British restaurant one plate at a time in impeccable detail. There's actually pretty good young-adult level adventuring and swordfighting, but that food. Goddamn that food. IIRC, the lavish food descriptions were because Jacques was writing the Redwall books for kids at a school for the blind, so he wanted to make sure there was a ton of non-visual sensory detail for them. That part's pretty cool; the racism, not so much.
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At least in Redwall it reads more as a predator species vs. prey species relationship rather than an undercurrent of racism. On the other hand badgers will absolutely feast on mice and they're portrayed as basically demigods of war and benevolence so
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Jul 7, 2019 22:52
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Pretty sure the only good guy was actually Asmodeus.
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FFT posted:At least in Redwall it reads more as a predator species vs. prey species relationship rather than an undercurrent of racism.
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Jul 7, 2019 23:06
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There was a single non-evil ferret but at the end of that book when he saw some other redwall people arriving he ran to the main gate to alert them but also because he'd likely be attacked if the squirrels or whatever weren't there to tell them not to kill this ferret on sight.
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Jul 7, 2019 23:11
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FactsAreUseless posted:I'm not certain Jacques recognized the racial implications of what he was writing but it makes it no less racist, in the same way a lot of fantasy is racist by being based in old racist fantasy tropes. Yeah I was going to bring in LoTR orcs and dwarves and such but  and derail-y
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I remember Anne Rice was a thing for a bit after Interview With the Vampire came out. Now there's a fandom I haven't heard anything about in a long, long time.
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Thanks to this thread I found out Twilight wasn't by Anne Rice.
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Meaty Ore posted:I remember Anne Rice was a thing for a bit after Interview With the Vampire came out. Now there's a fandom I haven't heard anything about in a long, long time. She alienated the hell out of her fan base by 1: going from her moody slow paced interpersonal drama/self loathing psychology character stuff to blending all her properties together for no reason and making the vampires super Saiyans who explode helicopters and 2: got super religious out of nowhere and started writing Jesus fanfic I think she went back to the vampires again semi recently but I’ve heard absolutely nothing about it
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Anne's a real treat. Her old Sleeping Beauty erotica were a blast because they're trying to be as inclusive to as many obscure fetishes as possible, where it makes physical sense or not - like being able to hold an erection that's holding up "heavy bells" for hours while pulling a cart.
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Anyone here from the Age of Sail renaissance launched (heh) by the Hornblower mini series and Horrys sweet  Hell even my username is relevant to that - poor Archie. It had tonnes of crossover with the nerdlingers who were into the first two Pirates of the Caribbean films but only into the Royal Navy/East India Co antagonist/or characters. Which also bled into the fans of Master and Commander/Aubreyard books/film which were a lot of young woman, quite a few from Japan. Traditionally the only people into this series were old was white men. Notable bleed over from the Sharpe series with Sean Bean. And yes there was wack fanfic smut for ALL of these salty old boys. 
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lt_kennedy posted:It had tonnes of crossover with the nerdlingers who were into the first two Pirates of the Caribbean films but only into the Royal Navy/East India Co antagonist/or characters. Was this really a thing? Please tell me more about this deeply stupid-sounding subfandom
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Is the Homestuck fandom dead yet.
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A quick Tumblr and AO3 look up tells me it's nowhere near as active as it's glory days, since most fans have moved onto other things, but still not anywhere close to dead either. On things with larger fanbases, usually they just slowly get quieter as the years go by, but they may take a long while to *die* Siselmo has a new favorite as of 07:17 on Jul 8, 2019 |
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Kenning posted:It was legit pretty solid sci-fi, honestly. The "Chronicles" books which took place outside the main storyline were genuinely very good reads as I recall, especially the Hork-Bajir Chronicles. Yeah, The Ellimist Chronicles is something you'd expect to be a wankfest since it's the 'secret backstory' of the godlike good alien that occasionally pops in to be mysterious and help out in indirect ways, but it's actually really good scifi and for a 'young adult' novel it has some insanely violent scenes. I unironically recommend it, there's a lot of good stuff in there and since it's a 'prequel' there's not many 'little details' to catch like there would be in the other 'Chronicles' sidebooks. Untagged spoilers: There's a large section where the main character has his whole colony-ship mistakenly crashed into a watery moon, and everyone on board is murdered and integrated with a planet-spanning undersea tentacle monster, with him the only one left 'alive' (but still integrated into the hivemind). The monster forces him to converse and play games with him; if he refuses then he gets put in 'time out' and see his world as it really is, an underwater grave surrounded by the corpses of everyone he knows. Also just a cool bit where after being halfway through his apotheosis he sticks a piece of his mind into a barely-sentient alien to see himself from an outside perspective, and realises that his own narration is basically self-delusion in terms of "I'm just an unlucky guy who made it out" because from the outside he's a supercyborg agglomeration of ship parts and nothing about him looks even close to a relatable living being.
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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the Starship Troopers fandom. That single  film somehow inspired a full 4 garbage-tier sequels, an anime, multiple games (including a tabletop RPG), and a lovely TV show. There was even a fan campaign to revive the lovely show after it died an ignoble death.Because apparently there was a cult of people in the world that just couldn't get enough of these sick PS2 cutscene grade graphics: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5eAafpheKU
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Starship Troopers owns, pal.
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Antivehicular posted:Was this really a thing? Please tell me more about this deeply stupid-sounding subfandom For one I blame Jack Davenport for being dreamy even before his character was downgraded to bitter hobo... though mostly people got super into Bitter Hobo Norrington who lost his commission and got his drink on. Who then went back to being a stooge for the East India Co. This is all probably now on a few long dead LiveJournal communities before the exodus to Tumblr or more likely now dead and gone. Eh if nothing else I know way too much now about REAL Napoleonic war era age of Sail history than anyone who isn't 80 should. And the Aubreyard books are dope reads because Dr. Maturin is 
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In regards to the above I know a fair few people who are weirdly into the "Terror" fanfic genre. Like the tv series about folks eating each other in the arctic? About 3 people I know in real life have written fan fiction for it and it still seems pretty wild to me.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the Starship Troopers fandom. That single I recall seeing a Starship Troopers fan wiki once where they went to great lengths to rationalize all the differences between the book, the movies, the TV show, and the tabletop games. Though the OVA predated the movie by a decade (1988) and was a more straight faced adaption of the book. I vaguely recall that fansubs didn't show up until like 2008 because it was only ever released on Laserdisc and was a niche title even in Japan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuYyVZ2qvzk The armor also appeared earlier in the DAICON III fan animation, which is basically everything Japanese nerds thought was cool in 1981, because the design had already been used on the cover for a Japanese edition of the book. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQjruwkyOaU
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Josef bugman posted:In regards to the above I know a fair few people who are weirdly into the "Terror" fanfic genre. Like the tv series about folks eating each other in the arctic? About 3 people I know in real life have written fan fiction for it and it still seems pretty wild to me. Does it involve highly emotionally-charged over-the-top tragedy and sad pretty white men? Because I think anything that meets those two criteria will get a pop-up slash fandom for at least a couple months. There's a certain type of fanfic person who will show up to anything even slightly topical, write extremely generic fanfic about sad pretty white men having sex for as long as it sustains attention, and then move onto whatever's trendy next.
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Plethora posted:Anne's a real treat. Her old Sleeping Beauty erotica were a blast because they're trying to be as inclusive to as many obscure fetishes as possible, where it makes physical sense or not - like being able to hold an erection that's holding up "heavy bells" for hours while pulling a cart.
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lt_kennedy posted:Hornblower mini series Is he portrayed as a piece-of-poo poo sociopath as in the books? (I know the author didn't intend to portray him as one but he's dead anyway.)
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Jerry Cotton posted:Is he portrayed as a piece-of-poo poo sociopath as in the books? (I know the author didn't intend to portray him as one but he's dead anyway.) Eh, Horatio was always kinda a stunted dork - Married Mariah even though he couldn't stand her and regretted it instantly in both books and the series. I got as far as when he was made captain in the books and found them not as fun and also harder to find than the O'Brian books. The mini series is pretty good though the effects suck. Gruffard who played him has recently been in the town I live in Queensland Australia filming a series with SBS I think? Not lost on me was that his character lives on a house boat 
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FactsAreUseless posted:The Sleeping Beauty series appears to have written by someone who has not only never had sex, but never even heard it described to them. Ann Rice saw pictures of naked people in a science book in and just tried to work it all out in her head from there. Just like Morrissey then?
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FactsAreUseless posted:The Sleeping Beauty series appears to have written by someone who has not only never had sex, but never even heard it described to them. Ann Rice saw pictures of naked people in a science book in and just tried to work it all out in her head from there. You're interrogating the text from the wrong perspective.
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Josef bugman posted:In regards to the above I know a fair few people who are weirdly into the "Terror" fanfic genre. Like the tv series about folks eating each other in the arctic? About 3 people I know in real life have written fan fiction for it and it still seems pretty wild to me. It's where the Hannibal fandom went
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xcheopis posted:You're interrogating the text from the wrong perspective. Fandom_wank was so much fun.
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Pick posted:It's where the Hannibal fandom went And like the great wildebeest treks of the Serengeti, the Migratory Slash Fandom moved on to Good Omens, devouring everything in their path /Attenborough
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