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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Oregon is still going on, the GOP guys have not returned:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon...d9nn084uDQX7rfU

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:

Are the lower courts less likely to approve of the census question? I guess that's the big question for me. Setting aside the time frame involved and this regime's ability to find its rear end with two hands and a map, if the lower courts are less disposed to approving the question, then maybe this is a win in disguise?

In either case, Dems need to pack the court.

No, in fact after the leak exposing what the question was about, one of the lower courts actually ordered the case be sent back to them, because the judge is pissed.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Ivanka donated $50k to a church that works with migrant children separated from their parents.

Take a guess at what that church does....

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progr...50G5PRaKOoJ6ZR8

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

This is believing what you want to believe, doctors in the US found no evidence or signs of torture:


The ME also found no evidence of torture:

Did you ever stop to ask yourself why you are trying to justify the actions of North Korea? Even without US Propaganda, there is little doubt as to what North Korea is doing....

You really need to rethink this.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Tucker Carlson is openly justifying genocide and murder:

https://twitter.com/QasimRashid/status/1145355152846741504?s=20

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:

I'm not justifying the actions of any country. Obviously, the rights situation in NK can use improvement. However, you might be surprised to know that NK, like most of the west's "enemies," has friendly relations with almost the entire non-aligned, developing country bloc of nations and is only reviled by the west.

The problem with American liberals is how much kneejerk backpedaling they are forced to do out of partisan spite. Everyone here was scared shitless that trump was about to start a war in NK in 2016, now the same people mad about Trump antagonizing official enemies in a dangerous way are mad Trump is appeasing official enemies in a dangerous way.

You are justifying the actions of North Korea, sorry dude.

Plenty of countries with lovely reputations have "friendly" relations outside of their sphere of influence, that doesn't make them a NOT lovely nation. Diplomatic ties are normal, even for lovely countries.

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The problem with American liberals is how much kneejerk backpedaling they are forced to do out of partisan spite. Everyone here was scared shitless that trump was about to start a war in NK in 2016, now the same people mad about Trump antagonizing official enemies in a dangerous way are mad Trump is appeasing official enemies in a dangerous way.

Stop trying to rationalize the actions of Trump. He is more knee jerk than the liberals you claim to correct. Trump is looking for a political out, but this is just want KJU wants. There's a reason no other president was willing to meet with KJU in person like this. Because KJU is just little for fodder for his propaganda, not to actually make any amends or restore social ties.

Its two irrational actors looking for quick wins because both are facing trouble, but KJU is the only one who benefits here.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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sexpig by night posted:

It's weird how we meet with guys like the Saudis and all when this is exactly true for them too, but no one ever brings that up?

They got that sweet sweet oil Money

SocketWrench posted:

But punching him went way over the lines guys. How do you expect people like him to compromise if you violently attack them for no reason.

Unfortunately Popehat decided that Ngo is a Journalist despite his history:

https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1145160476323508229?s=20

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 17:11 on Jun 30, 2019

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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He still owes money for his Commencement as well, so there's that too.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Tacier posted:

I’ll give this a listen since most of what I’ve heard Sam Harris say about Islam has sounded fairly sensible to me. I disagree with a lot of his foreign policy opinions, but he makes a fair point that progressives spend a surprising amount of effort decrying islamophobia when the religion of Islam is itself totally antithetical to a lot of progressive principles.

Of course it’s tricky to talk about that stuff when Muslims in America are an unquestionably marginalized and discriminated against and it’s easy for racists to conflate Islamic with Middle-eastern.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Sam_Harris#Anti-Islam_or_Islamophobe.3F

Sam Harris promoted Eugenics, The Bell Curve, and a bunch of very, VERY GOP views on Islam. He also loves pulling the "Both Sides" bullshit in regards to the Alt-Right and Antifa.

quote:

Despite Harris' fundamental alignment with liberals against the GOP, irresponsible adventures like these lend false credence to the right wing, reactionaries, and true regressives. Naturally, this is not because Harris criticizes Islam (which tends to be politically conservative), but rather because Cruz' confused motion that "Muslims need not apply" amounts to nothing but an intellectualized version, not just of anti-immigrant xenophobia, but of overt bigotry on the basis of faith. Harris, like Cruz, also seems to have overlooked the fact that a jihadist seeking to enter the United States under the guise of a refugee could simply lie about his faith and claim to be Christian.

Criticism of Islam — or any religion — is always warranted.[24] Plain wrong, however, is Harris' tentative support of conservative hysteria about any worthwhile percentage of refugees posing an immediate danger to your community (either as a top secret fifth column of radicalized ISIS sleeper agents, or as an ominously ticking demographic time bomb).

Everyone knows that jihadist terrorists are both real and scary — especially the civilians who haven't just seen the devastation on TV, but have personally dodged shrapnel from ISIS. It may be easy to sometimes forget that these refugees, driven from their homes by war, exist for the simple reason that the vast majority of functioning adults — be they Arab or not and Muslim or not — would want to get themselves and their children as far away from ISIS as humanly possible.[25]

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Jul 3, 2019

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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pkay posted:

Couldn't the same be said about Judaism? Equating your self as God's chosen people doesn't really fit the egalitarian framework of progressivism. Basically, he is roping in sympathetic dopes like yourself into agreeing with him in the future when he says progressively crazier more extreme poo poo. Don't get sucked in.

Yeah, he loves playing the GOP talking points when convenient

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Harris had another podcast with Gavin de Becker, and the topic switched to Antifa and the chaos in Charlottesville. Again, he chose to condemn Antifa as "also violent," ripping the same page straight out of Donald Trump's playbook, and portrayed the Neo-Nazis as victims of violence by "Antifa goons." He unironically called the pro-Confederate Neo-Nazis "peaceful marchers who just happened to be Nazis". He called Antifa "a dangerous organization" and condemned them for committing acts of violence against, again, "peaceful marchers who just happened to be Nazis." This leaves out how, if there were any violence done by "Antifa goons," Richard Spencer notwithstanding, it was generally done in self defense after the Neo-Nazis themselves ended their "peaceful" marching by actively killing people or attempting to kill people on the streets.[49] Still on the topic of the right wing's rise, Harris said that his major concern was that the left was abdicating its responsibility to criticize "creeping theocracy under the guise of civil rights for Muslims" to the far right, saying the latter is the increasingly becoming the only one "calling a spade a spade and addressing" this great danger of a Muslim theocracy occurring in Christian American.[

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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LMAO, nothing says "Justice Department belongs to the Executive Branch now" like "We've been ORDERED to ignore a SCOTUS ruling."

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

I really hope so because poo poo like this shows their true focus

The only upside is, due to the legalization of Gay Marriage, this is unlikely to gain traction. The ONLY way this 'Natural Rights' commission does jack poo poo is reverse major SCOTUS rulings.

They think they can just reverse course on this stuff, and its not that easy.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Shifty Pony posted:

The worrisome bit is that he's so drat rich that he might only have stuff he had made for himself and that will make it much harder to prove that the subject is underage.

I don't think Epstein is that smart. He's being prosecuted again for the same crime, twice. If he was smart, after getting off easy the first time, he'd have left the country.

He's still here. And apparently was stupid enough to keep this stuff around.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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haveblue posted:

Isn't there a fairly large pool of victims who haven't come forward yet because it seemed futile under the old deal?


vvvvvv Metadata is not immutable and the defense will enthusiastically point this out. Reasonable doubt is a very low standard.

It didn't help that Acosta likely knew Epstein was threatening witnesses and did little to nothing.

SDNY might be a little more immune.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Groovelord Neato posted:

check the "never retire" guy's twitter lol

https://twitter.com/DonLuskin

having an incredibly normal one.

Tons of posts just with "I block Nazis on the first try" LMAO. It really is John Galt.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Mantis42 posted:

Imagine being a slave to a plant.

Enjoying that Oxygen? We have some bad news for you.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Wistful of Dollars posted:

We'll never see his like again. Fly on you crazy bastard.



Do not associate David Suchett with Ross Perot, thanks.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Groovelord Neato posted:

the crazy thing about acosta is trump's initial pick was a dude who thought we should replace all fast food workers with kiosks since they don't complain, get sick, or ask for raises.

oh also beat his wife.

That could be anyone in the admin.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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DOJ is trying to stop Mueller deputies from testifying.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/09/us/politics/mueller-testimony-justice-department.html

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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theflyingorc posted:

This is literally the first time I've heard "getting Trump to stop his ICE raids" as a motivation for passing that bill

Because that's not what happened. There was such outrage at the Raids that they 'delayed' them. There was never any promise of stopping in response to the bill.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Is this the same Trump that tried to weaken the US dollar on purpose?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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White House Spokesman on Fox:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLoq2RQQSYA

"Trump feels he is no longer beholden to the courts."

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Yeah, any respect I had for Lawrence Krauss continues to melt away.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

As an unrelated snippet, the Trump campaign staffer's allegation of forced kissing is sadly a complete nothing, just in case it hasn't been posted here yet.

A complete nothing only according to Trumps notably biased legal team, as they still can't get the case dismissed

quote:

Harder has previously tried and failed to get the case dismissed, arguing at a hearing in June that the allegations were politically motivated.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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WoodrowSkillson posted:

Gip, where the left wing people who murdered foreigners hang out

:stare: Well then.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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TulliusCicero posted:

I thought even that is starting to backfire now, because even the BBC got sick of running gaslighting stories that amounted to nothing?

BBC has been heavily slanting right for ages now.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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But that's what she already did!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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LMAO, yeah, good luck with it. AOC knows what she is doing.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Skippy McPants posted:

Don't disagree with any of that, just saying that the pope is also white.

Edit: like, come on,



Father Dougal, no!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Hijinks Ensue posted:

I had a coworker once who believed that KFC bred special chickens with no heads and four legs. Her believing that birds aren't real would not surprise me in the least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FoaomccQJY

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Angry_Ed posted:

Its not even a binding resolution but it's just so stupid and petty and is just another case of trying to dictate terms to an oppressed populace on how to act.

Its also something that won't hold up in court, which is why they are down to doing this poo poo: Protesting is a 1st amendment right, and no Federal court is going to honor a bill outlawing BDS.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Otteration posted:

Truth behind accused gunman’s hand symbol in court

"The accused gunman behind the horrific mosque attacks in Christchurch made a symbol with his hand in court, adding to the outrage."

"The 28-year-old, who is accused of murdering 50 people during a shooting rampage in Christchurch on Friday, appeared unrepentant and smirked inside the courtroom as he gave an upside down “OK” symbol with his right hand.

"The hand gesture, often accompanied by a smirk, is associated with white power groups. The middle, ring and pinky fingers is said to represent a ‘W’ (white) and the thumb and forefinger come together to represent a ‘P’ (power)."

"But even though some white supremacists do use the gesture, there’s a fair chance they’re doing it just to troll the rest of us."

Begin to start thinking about loving off with claims of "ignorant" trolls. "They do harm with their words, but their hand gestures mean nothing":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8iujof6IL8

Yah, no.

"They are trolling you, they are trolling you, you are falling for it!"

That must be why he shot people. To troll them.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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https://twitter.com/ScottHech/status/1153166853021294597?s=09&fbclid=IwAR31wx5PmtIImtxI-d61xXMF4U3_8chIMydPIXLoXamFlaZRH8TCopX_wso

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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theflyingorc posted:

It isn't, though?

There's been little evidence of vote manipulation (outside of Georgia, which is a whole thing). I'd be more worried about hackers messing with voter rolls than actual votes.

Florida too. And even worse: supposedly some of these voting systems manufacturers have ties to Russian oligarchs.

These state and county governments can't even deal with cryptolocker attacks properly, what makes you think they'd be able to actually detect someone in their system?

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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fool_of_sound posted:

The machines don't appear to actually be the issue. Various legal or quasi-legal suppression method are.

True, that happened too, however, the last time Georgia's results were called out, they wiped the voting servers post election before anyone could see them.

the InfoSec community does not trust electronic voting, period. State and Local government continue to fail security audits and be hit by things that would be stopped by basic security policies.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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My wife just got texted a URL to this:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Discendo Vox posted:

very legit website there.

https://act.devinnunes.com/donate/i...&recurring=TRUE

real crap, from the master of craps.

The Super-Id posted:

Time to launch my campaign to investigate the investigator investigators.

Who watches the watchers who watch the watchmen!

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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FizFashizzle posted:

Maybe we'll get Trump threatening to kick California out of the union by the end of the day.

https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1154360993427918849?s=20

Of course they did. California is a market unto itself, it'd be stupid as hell to fight them.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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AynRand Paul suggested in an interview that Illhan be sent to Somalia to experience what its like to live in a truly third world country.

The same Somalia that Rand's favorite Mises.org praised as a Libertarian paradise in a now-retracted article.

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CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

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Failed Imagineer posted:

She lived there til she was 10 and spent 4 years in a refugee camp, I think she might understand it a lil better than Rand Paul, who gets his ribs broken arguing with his neighbor about grass clippings

Nobody would claim Rand and Ron Paul are intelligent people.

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