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Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015
They're the Draka but more realistic, what with having to deal with actual drawbacks.

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Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
Listening to the Lost Fleet books and I've got to the bit after finding Falco, and good grief this is aggravating. How the alliance+others have any ships, or anything at all to be honest, is a mystery to me. As described the ship commanders would have yolo'd into the first unwinnable fight and lost, probably against themselves.

Jack should get back into a hibernation pod and wash his hands of the lot of them.

Also ginger (space) british love interest is just awful. What is it with milfic having ginger british or Irish love interests. Is it a fetish?

Fivemarks
Feb 21, 2015

Collateral posted:

Listening to the Lost Fleet books and I've got to the bit after finding Falco, and good grief this is aggravating. How the alliance+others have any ships, or anything at all to be honest, is a mystery to me. As described the ship commanders would have yolo'd into the first unwinnable fight and lost, probably against themselves.

Jack should get back into a hibernation pod and wash his hands of the lot of them.

Also ginger (space) british love interest is just awful. What is it with milfic having ginger british or Irish love interests. Is it a fetish?

Blame Auberey/Maturin.

habituallyred
Feb 6, 2015

mllaneza posted:

I just finished an H. Beam Piper reread, and I'd like to check in on one of my favorite problematic authors. I'll start with the "product of his times" spiel and then get into some unsavory details, he starts his career worse than expected for his times.

His very first novel, Murder in the Gunroom, features as a main character a private detective names Jefferson Davis Rand. The South African Rands. Even for 1950 that's not a good look. He mellows on that over the course of his career, ending up at the end of it with Little Fuzy, which features a newly discovered indigenous species being treated with respect and not a drop of colonialism. Further, I'll say that he shows no signs whatsoever of actual racism, at least to humans. Several characters are introduced as being black and then their skin tone is completely ignored. I think he has a rugged individualism fetish as at least part of this. It's actually a good mystery for all it's bad politics, and it's loaded with gun porn.

Colonialism. Piper is mostly unabashedly pro-White Man's Burden style thinking. Uller Uprising is a retelling of the Sepoy Mutiny with contragravity and nuclear weapons. By the end of his career, in Little Fuzzy the main characters defend the Fuzzies from the corporation that owns their world. There's a real evolution in his world view and it shows in his work.

Misogyny. He isn't. Piper is actually ahead of his time here, many of his stories and novels feature strong women characters who do important, plot-relevant things. In the shorts Ominilingual and Naudsonce, women do the heavy scientific lifting to resolve the core challenge of the story. Even in Uller Uprising there's a strong woman helping run the military response to the uprising. He does drop in a few phrases about "oh, women are emotional, they'll always react that way", but stuff like that shows up alongside a female main character who is driving the plot. It's window dressing.

The setting. Piper wrote about 6000 years of future history, starting with the 3rd and 4th World Wars devastating the Northern Hemisphere, leaving the other half of the planet to rebuild and leap to the stars. It ends, thousands of years hence, with cycles of civilizations and decay starting with a Terran Federation and ending in several galactic empires. One of his core concepts is that history rhymes, the same sort of things keep happening. This philosophy is referred to frequently in his works, and one of his novels is, as I said, a historical event with SF trappings.

Project Gutenberg. Right here, https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/8301 I did pay a buck for a consolidated collection on the Kindle store for convenience, but there's just about everything he wrote. https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07D3T11JR/

Other books. Piper wrote about reincarnation and alternate timelines in a good portion of his work. Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen is a story of a cop who ends up accidentally being dumped on another timeline. He has to learn the languages and get in good with the locals, then help them defend themselves against a more powerful nation, he can help because the locals barely have gunpowder, and Kalvan has some chemistry courses under his belt. THis kind of bootstrapping development shows up again in Piper's work.

Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen is mostly rereadable for me due to the draft version. Piper famously died an untimely death before he knew he was a successful science fiction author. Which lead to any unfinished or unpublished works getting dug up and published in anthologies. One of which is the draft version of Lord Kalvan... starring a tramp survey ship. The local situation, characters, and geography are shared between the two versions. The tramp survey ship is right out of his mainline future history. Reading them back to back is great, you can see Lord Kalvan cursing about stuff that gets handled with ease in the draft. If you are tracking down a copy I am pretty sure the anthology is Federation. Not Empire.

I think you are looking at Little Fuzzy with rose colored glasses, but admittedly that may be because I read the two sequels right afterwards. Also Space Viking has a scene where the Jewish stand ins are more or less blamed for being suspicious.

mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




habituallyred posted:

I think you are looking at Little Fuzzy with rose colored glasses

Probably.

MadDogMike
Apr 9, 2008

Cute but fanged

mllaneza posted:

Probably.

The Fuzzy books are still my favorite books of his overall even going back to read them now, although as a (former) Texan I found Lone Star Planet pretty funny (I particularly recall the remark about on how everything on New Texas was called "super-something" as feeling about dead on what to expect from a space future Texas :D).

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




MadDogMike posted:

The Fuzzy books are still my favorite books of his overall even going back to read them now, although as a (former) Texan I found Lone Star Planet pretty funny (I particularly recall the remark about on how everything on New Texas was called "super-something" as feeling about dead on what to expect from a space future Texas :D).

Lone Star Planet was a lot of fun. You could tell Piper had fun writing it, and really got Texans at a deep level.

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